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Last Thursday Tom DeLonge, former rockstar from the band Blink-182 who has now turned into a sort of ‘Disclosure entrepreneur’ with the launch of a new branch of his To the Stars entertainment company earlier this month (called the ‘Academy of Arts and Science‘), was a guest on the highly popular podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience.

I have a strong suspicion that having a chat with Joe was not Tom’s idea. From the get-go he looked jittery and uncomfortable sitting in front of Rogan, and tried very hard to take the reins of the discussion: “I don’t want to talk about that, let’s talk about this instead.” In fact, here’s an interesting drinking game you could play while listening to this video: Every time Tom says “I can’t tell you” to Joe, you take a shot of booze. WARNING: Either have a designated driver before playing this game and/or be sure you have plenty of Gatorade at hand for the inevitable hangover…

If someone was hoping to get any ground-breaking revelations out of this podcast, they’ll be left sorely disappointed. Perhaps the only thing we learn is Tom’s willingness to be a sychophant for people in the highest echelons of power in the Pentagon and the Intelligence community – “I provide a service that they need” – and how after he managed to ‘connect the dots’ on the UFO mystery and wrote his Sekret Machines book, he actively sought to contact the higher-ups in order to “ask permission” for his plans of disseminating this information.

Apparently he managed to be successful, and after a series of meetings with all sorts of anonymous individuals, he eventually found himself having lunch with another one of these ‘people in the know’ in some airport restaurant, who looked DeLonge straight in the eye and told him that during the Cold War the government had “found a life-form.”

– “Did you ever think he was bullshitting you, or was just a crazy person?” asked Joe.

– “Oh F**k no!” answered Tom.

It’s really hard to gauge just how discerning DeLonge is when it comes to UFO revelations and evidence, as instead of bringing some of the alleged ‘gun camera’ footage he promised to release during the video launch of the TTS/AAS enterprise, he resorted instead to ask Joe’s intern Jamie to look for dodgy UFO videos on Youtube, like the one below:

Everybody knows by now that faking UFO videos can be done by kids using cheap computers and over-the-counter CGI software; in fact, there’s plenty of more clips out there on the web that are FAR more realistic than this one. “Boy if that was in a movie, I’d want my money back!” joked Joe after seeing this, yet Tom remained unfazed and kept maintaining this is EVIDENCE of a secret government program using reverse-engineered alien tech.

Oh, and when he went on a tangent saying one of the alien groups visiting Earth are the ‘Greek gods’ of antiquity (!) and this was proven (?) by the ‘Greek alphabet’ shown on some of the Roswell wreckage, I wondered if any of DeLonge’s advisors have ever pointed out to him the Santilli film has been thoroughly debunked – even by the people involved in its making

Like I said, I don’t feel DeLonge came to Joe out of his own accord, but was forced out of a neccesity to raise money for his campaign. He claims donors will be true ‘stock-holders’ in the TTS/AAS enterprise, yet some people who have taken the trouble to read the fine print, are raising serious questions about just how that money will be actually spent. A recent analysis of the crowd-funding campaign, for example,  found that – as an investment opportunity – it was a very bad idea for several reasons.

Firstly, the maximum amount that can be raised ($50 million) will “certainly not be enough based on the projects outlined and described in the offering letter”. And secondly, the fact that DeLonge actually currently has no team with expertise in this industry (compare with the likes of SpaceX, who operate on a budget of a billion dollars and have recruited the best and brightest) should be cause for concern for any sensible investors.

But perhaps most concerning of all – especially in light of the difficulty of actually raising $50million in the first place – are the terms of the investment at lower funding amounts:

According to the offering letter, the minimum qualifying funding is $1 million… As we just discussed, $50 million isn’t even enough to work on the projects they’ve highlighted in the letter, how would $1 million help? It wouldn’t help with anything other than paying back Tom for a “loan” he gave To The Stars in 2015 and 2016. As you can see in the letter, it outlines how the money would be spent based on possible amounts that could be raised, well, I want to call your attention to one line in particular:

“Approximately $600,000 to repay a loan from Our Two Dogs, Inc.”

Who do you think owns Our Two Dogs, Inc.? Tom DeLonge.

Plus, if the offering brings in less than $5 million from crowd funders but Tom essentially makes back his loan and the company continues to operate at a bare bones/skeleton crew level. That just isn’t right. Your investment in To The Stars would essentially be to continue to fund payroll for Tom and his few full-time employees for another year. It’s hardly a smart investment on any level.

Additionally, there’s another line you should look at:

“We are required to pay a minimum royalty guarantee of $100,000 each calendar year.””

That royalty payment is a minimum $100,000 annual payment to Tom, regardless of whether or not revenues exceed $100,000. Seriously?

Here’s the thing: For someone claiming to have ‘connected the dots’ around the UFO enigma, Tom doesn’t really seem able to actually understand the science which is allegedly behind all these revolutionary technologies his company will be trying to develop, if they are successful with the gathering of funds they seek (as of this post they’ve raise almost $1.75 million out of their initial $50 million goal), and that is a problem if he is going to be the ONLY spokesperson for TTS/AAS.

He also has to come forth with solid evidence, like a piece of that metal he spoke of, which can allegedly ‘lose mass’ if it’s bombarded with enough energy at a certain frequency “by shooting terahertz at it (SIC)”. Although obviously the procurement of such material does NOT necessarily mean it came from a flying saucer crash…

There’s also the justified concerns raised by people in the UFO community who have been in the field long enough to remember the Paul Bennewitz/Bill Moore debacle – which was brilliantly exposed by Greg Bishop in his book Project Beta, a well as Mark Pilkington in his documentary Mirage Men – and fear DeLonge is being played as the latest ‘useful idiot’ (for want of a better term) in a long line of people who have been duped into playing the ‘spy game’, lured in by people on the inside through appeals to their ego and by dangling the ‘top secret’ carrot in front of their eyes. “We think you’re the only one who knows what he’s talking about” were the words Falcon, a secret agent of the government, said to Bill Moore when he recruited him as an insider to keep tabs on the UFO community and feed them disinformation from time to time. In the case of Moore, at least he knew the dangers of the game he was playing, and was fully aware that for every small morsel of ‘truth’ he would be granted by his Intelligence handlers, it would be buried deep inside a pile of Counter-Intel manure. Is DeLonge taking the necessary precautions, or does he think he can actually out-smart the spooks?

But, perhaps more importantly than that, Tom will have to learn how to talk about these things with people outside of the UFO field. People like Joe Rogan, who is actually way more smart than his ‘bro appearance’ tends to show, who asked DeLonge direct and simple questions about his beliefs in the subject – questions for which DeLonge wasn’t able to come up with satisfactory answers. I’m sorry but replying “I can’t tell” to 7 out of 10 questions just doesn’t cut it.

“I hope it’s all real” says Joe at the end of this incredibly frustrating exchange. We all do, Joe – but we shouldn’t bet our money on it.

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