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News Briefs 08-04-2011

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  1. FBI VAULT – ROSWELL
    Just a comment on the story at the link given.
    http://vault.fbi.gov/hottel_guy/Guy%20Hottel%20Part%201%20of%201/view

    I learnt about NM/Roswell UFO crashes back in the 60s. My uncle was an officer at Roswell AFB, and I had other family there. They all knew about the crashes. Interestingly, my uncle spoke about 9 bodies recovered. I’ve not read that anywhere until now on the source material in the FBI Vault. (3 craft each containing 3 pilots from what I read). All other accounts speak of fewer bodies, which has always been a question to me. This FBI report’s number tallies with an ‘insider’ account, so it’s kind of a tidy tie up.

    Anyway, according to my uncle, the bodies were still (in the 60s) in deep freezes at some big base (maybe wright pat, I don’t remember). I still have the picture in my mind of those scrawny little bodies in the cabinets the way my relatives described.

    Who knows? More to it than meets the eye, no doubt.

  2. I’m blaming Sagan
    Re: FBI unveils ‘The Vault’ and more Rosswell revelations.

    The more I think about this… and I have seen the document offered by the FBI at this website (link included below), the more I have to conclude that in any courthouse in the land, there are enough smoking guns to convict.

    But of course, this is not your standard subject. And because a certain astronomer, named Sagan, coined a certain term that dealt with things being ‘extraordinary’… even if they weren’t, it gave excuse to ignoring the smoke seeping from the end of the barrel question.

    And it works, too.

    The document being referred to is about halfway down this PDF document…
    http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%208%20of%2016/view

    Things have since… more or less, been bogged down in bogus bayou while sniffing copious quantities of a certain, unreal swamp gas.

  3. Regarding the ‘last minute time dilation afterlife’
    Firstly they are definitely going to have to come up with a better name. Lumterdar (LMTDA) just isn’t going to catch on.

    Also
    [quote]It appears that we have both independently discovered the
    worlds first scientifically plausible explanation of Life
    After Death as a virtual reality brain state (5-sense dream)
    acting via an enormous time dilation although positing
    differing brain mechanisms. In fact I believe both of our
    brain mechanisms are probably at work.

    I am astonished that another person has independently
    arrived at this fundamental (time dilation) conclusion… as
    I am sure you will be astonished for the same reason! To my
    knowledge no one else has discovered the idea!
    After decades of study, I put the probability of Life
    After Death at around 30%.
    With best regards,
    George Hammond, M.S. Physics[/quote]

    What’s with the ‘Virtual Reality Brain State’, does that mean it’s not life after death, but something the brain experiences before it dies?

    What about – ‘In fact I believe both of our brain mechanisms are probably at work [last minute relativistic time dilation which provides an Afterlife which actually occurs microseconds before death but because of the enormous time dilation appears to occur after death].

    Followed by – After decades of study, I put the probability of Life After Death at around 30%.

    Am I the only one confused when following all that?

    – I also note that if you scroll down a little the first thing you get is an advert to buy the book.

    – Followed by
    [quote]THUS, we now have a “top down” discovery of the theory by
    Peake, and a “bottom up” discovery by Hammond which yield
    exactly the SAME CONCLUSION….. namely that the historical
    theory of Life After Death is CORRECT, that it does EXIST
    and that it is a completely explainable brain phenomenon.[/quote]

    That seems a little ambitious!

    A hypothesis, then a bit of shabaam! and then we have ‘SAME CONCLUSION’ ‘CORRECT’ and ‘does EXIST’. I think I’m going to wait until they publish properly.

      1. Virtual reality
        IMO the only way this ‘relativistic’ distortion of time at the moment of death were to work, is if it was coupled with the notion that all human consciousness is unified.

    1. insight and outside
      The idea with the time dilation seems dependent on whether you are inside this thing, as in you are the one dying, or just an outside observer.

      The insider seems to get the raw deal that the moment of death lasts forever. I don’t see how that would translate to the outside observer seeing anything of the unfortunate deceased afterwards.

  4. Rosswell?
    Apparently not.

    [quote]the memo has been public knowledge for two decades and is intricately connected to a completely different event–a crash/retrieval event located at Aztec, New Mexico in 1948[/quote]

    Ho hum.

    1. Authentic is not equal with Accurate
      Maybe the memo is authentic. Maybe it isn’t. But even if it is, that doesn’t mean its info is accurate, or even truthful.

      But there’s something that people are missing, as that is WHY there should be a memo like this in the FBI’s Vault in the first place.

      And the reason is that Hover was VERY interested in the UFO subject; also, he was convinced that the Air Force was already hiding sensitive info as early as the 1950s, and he wanted in. In one of his pasts contributions to Darklore, Nick Redfern included a memo written by Hoover himself, pointing out that the FBI needed to learn more about the crashed saucers —Richar Dolan also mentions this in his first volume of UFOs and the National Security State.

      So how did Hoover know anything about crashed saucers? Possibly it was a rumor fueled originally by Skully’s book, which was later highly discredited, to the point that all the major UFO groups of that era were highly skeptical of any story concerning crashed flying saucers —Leonard Stringfield would come to change that in the 1960s.

      But getting back to the Hottel memo, it could be possible that the Air Force wanted to pass on disinformation to Hoover, as part of the many power battles and shenanigans played by different branches of the government —whoever thinks bureaucrats act as one coherent body in perfect Harmony and synchrony is more naive than all those who think we’re being invaded by extraterrestrials 😉

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