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Bosnian Pyramid Revived

The alleged ‘Bosnian Pyramid’ shot back into the limelight last week, with the “First International Scientific Conference on the ‘Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids'” taking place from August 25th to 30th. Philip Coppens attended, and posted a detailed review of the event on his website.

To cut a long story short, the “Committee for Recommendation” concluded that there were important questions that should be answered about the site. This Committee had a number of archaeological heavyweights involved, including Egyptologist Dr Nabil Swelim, Dr Hassan El-Saady (historian and vice-dean of the Faculty of Arts at the Alexandria University) and Dr Mostafa El-Abbadi (historian and Founder of the modern Library in Alexandria (Bibliotheca Alexandrina):

The conclusions and recommendations were as follows: “We, the participants of the First International Scientific Conference “Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids” (ICBP 2008) conclude:

  1. Work at the archaeological location “Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids” in Visoko, Bosnia and Herzegovina, is an important geo-archaeological and epigraphical research that requires further multidisciplinary scientific research which should answer the origin of the Bosnian pyramidal hills and the extensive underground tunnel network as well as other archaeological sites in the vicinity;
  2. ICBP Conference recommends that Second International Scientific Conference about the Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids should be held in Sarajevo in two years (2010) and gather experts in pyramid research from all over the world;
  3. ICBP Conference introduce the initiative to establish Centre for Pyramid Studies with headquarter in Sarajevo;
  4. ICBP Conference recommends universities in Bosnia and Herzegovina to establish study at the graduate level for archaeology as a support to the research project ‘Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids’.”

We’ve reported previously that open-minded investigators such as Robert Schoch have concluded that the ‘pyramid’ is not man-made (see also Issue 6 of our free PDF magazine Sub Rosa for a full report), so this may perhaps mark a turn-around in the fortunes of Sam Osmanagic’s archaeological project. Certainly, the presence of some of these ‘big names’ is a boost for the prestige and credibility of his investigation of the ‘Bosnian Pyramids’ (Incidentally, I don’t agree with Filip’s summation that Robert’s investigation was an “unscientific dismissal”).

On the other hand, when Filip points out that Dr. Mohamed El-Anbaawy, one of the more critical members of the panel, argued that “much remains to be done in order to get satisfactory explanations for all geological and manmade features in the ‘Bosnian Pyramidal Region’”, I don’t read it as positively as Filip does (“satisfactory explanations” for “manmade features”?). Indeed, the cautious wording of the Committee’s conclusion (“geo-archaeological” etc) still suggests to me that the verdict on the ‘Bosnian Pyramids’ remains up in the air. I’m sure we can all agree though that there should be further objective investigation, free of mud-slinging and politics, to bring more clarity to the situation.

Anybody want to revise their vote?

  1. 1 word of clarification
    Recommendations are lowest common denominator of the entire panel. But, as a whole, everyone agreed that the tunnels are manmade. Opinions on the pyramids themselves varies, depending on which science you belong to. In short, several people have seen very convincing evidence that “something” is going on here. One geologist is totally convinced about its manmade nature, another is still wary. Next year will hopefully see a major series of excavations, and in many places – like the Pyramid of the Moon – all it requires is e.g. a vertical monolith that finish the debate and prove it’s all manmade. And that’s just one option.

    During the conference, it was pointed out how Carter year after year failed to find Tut’s tomb. In Bosnia, we are in year 3.

    1. Time periods
      [quote=Philip_Coppens]Recommendations are lowest common denominator of the entire panel. But, as a whole, everyone agreed that the tunnels are manmade. [/quote]

      Hi Filip,

      I think the key question about a number of aspects is not whether they are manmade…it’s *when* they were manmade. You mentioned scientific results being released – was archaeological dating done on the manmade aspects?

      Kind regards,
      You monkeys only think you’re running things

  2. As I mention in article,
    As I mention in article, piece of wood from Ravne tunnels was carbondated, and gave result of 34,000 BP. A stalactite in same tunnel – report not presented at teh conference – is known to date to 3900 BP.
    The 34,000 BP date is something no-one knows what to do with.

    Culturally, there are a small number of finds in Visoko that show the area was part of Vinca Culture, so ca. 8000-4000 BC. This period to me is the best guess at the moment: it’s within their region, we know they were highly advanced, and I would venture that these pyramids are “just” a new discovery about this culture (very much like earlier in the year, it was reported they worked with bronze, etc.), creating wonderful statues, etc.

    So, that would be my estimate: part of Old Europe, ca. 4000 BC old.
    But it’s funny that the only thing that could be carbondated so far, comes in at 34,000 BP, a date, no-one knows how to deal with.

    This is science, with testing slow, etc., so time is needed.

  3. Question
    I have a question:

    Did the Committee have any recommendation about the manner in which the archeological work is being conducted at Visoko? Do they think Osmanagic’s job has been adequate and hasn’t contaminated any possible important archeological finds, or maybe inadvertedly created some of the man-made features found at the site?

    Well, they were three questions in the end.

    It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
    It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

    Red Pill Junkie

    1. First of all, Sam Osmanagich
      First of all, Sam Osmanagich doesn’t dig there himself; he has a team of archaeologists for that.
      No, the Committee had nothing bad to say about the way their work was being conducted.

      That were two answers.

      1. Thanks
        And yeah, by “Osmanagich’s job” I was referring to the planning on the places that were being excavated, how things and findigs were being recorded for further analysis and all that.

        I assumed the guy wasn’t actually doing all that shovelling by himself 😉

        It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
        It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

        Red Pill Junkie

  4. Coppens — I just hope
    Coppens — I just hope you’re at the Bosnian Pyramid when it collapses and the UFO powered by the crystal skulls flies to the “space between spaces.”

    1. I really hope
      I really hope you’re not saying you wish for the pyramid to fall on poor Filip! Rather that you wish him to catch a ride with our space instructors when they tire of the scenery 😉

      It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
      It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

      Red Pill Junkie

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