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The Astronaut, the Aliens, and the Hype

Welp, Dr Edgar Mitchell, sixth man to walk on the Moon, has set tongues a’wagging all over the world with his revelations in a radio interview that Earth has been visited by aliens, and that the government has covered it up (not to mention, “I think we’re heading for real disclosure”). Rick and RPJ covered it over the past couple of days, when it was an ‘underground’ thing, but now it’s hit mainstream – check the frenzied press coverage via Google News.

For those who want to hear it for themselves, check out this UFO Blogger post, which has the relevant excerpt, as well as NASA’s response (“Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinion on this issue.”).

It should be an interesting story to follow. But let’s clarify things. Dr Mitchell has been saying this for a long time. In fact, a similar story to this one broke ten years ago, when he made the same claims in another interview:

I am an American astronaut and a trained scientist. Because of my position people in high places confide in me. And, as a result, I have no doubt that aliens HAVE visited this planet.

…As a former astronaut, the military people who have access to these files are more willing to talk to me than to people they regard as mere cranks. The stories I have heard from these people, who are more highly qualified than me to talk about UFOs, leave me in no doubt that aliens have already visited Earth.

…So when I learned that aliens really do exist, I wasn’t too surprised. But what did shock me when I started investigating extra-terrestrial reports a decade ago is the extent to which the proof has been hushed up.

…Make no mistake, Roswell happened. I’ve seen secret files which show the government knew about it – but decided not to tell the public.

Also, here’s a video interview from this year’s X-Conference in which he says much the same again. This story is old news, just with a fresh helping of hype. It makes for good copy though, that’s for sure.

Skeptics will no doubt point out that Dr Mitchell has been involved in plenty of other ‘fringe’ science subjects, from remote viewing to alternative healing. We actually profiled Dr Mitchell, and the organisation he founded – the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) – in Sub Rosa Issue 5 (free PDF download), so if you’re looking for a good summary of the research he’s been involved with, that’s a good place to start.

Finally, for a little perspective, here’s what Dr Mitchell wrote about UFOs (with a little SETI conspiracy thrown in for good measure) in his autobiography The Way of the Explorer (Amazon US and UK), originally published in 1996:

Claims and denials have continued unabated for decades. At the time of this book, however, there has yet been no hard, undeniable, physical evidence available in the public domain to substantiate such claims. But the circumstantial evidence has continued to mount as unusual sightings and bizarre events are reported and investigated by credentialed professionals. A significant number of persons, many quite elderly, formerly in military intelligence and government service, have privately dropped intriguing pieces of their stories on the ears of serious investigators, in hopes of getting the true story revealed, and in hopes of achieving amnesty from tough, punitive secrecy oaths they were forced to sign. In addition, certain documents from the presidencies of Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower have surfaced that add to the controversy about ET visitation and government cover-up. In this intriguing environment of claims, counterclaims, and denial, one might easily conjecture that even SETI, although it enjoys a certain scientific respectability today not in evidence when originally funded, was initially advanced as a smokescreen and diversion from the real activities taking place behind the scenes. Garnering funds and political support for an advanced science project is nearly impossible without strong concurrence in the scientific community, and there was no strong scientific support in the 1960s.

As always, we’ll keep an eye on where this one heads.

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  1. IMO
    This is getting attention, but IMO if this claim had been made by other member of the Apollo missions, say Neil Armstrong, it would’ve made it to the front page of the newspapers. As it is now, Dr. Mitchell has always been viewed as the ‘eccentric’ of the Nasa group. “One minute too long out of the capsule” is what many people would probably think.

    But, taken in context with all the recent developments—i.e. disclosure of French & British UFO files, Vatican saying it’s OK to believe in ETs, etc— it kind of feels like another important contribution to some sort of “snow ball effect” aiming to achieve a shift in the popular perception of the phenomenon.

    Do I think this is part of a disclosure plan? Not necessarily; even Dr. Mitchell dosn’t think so. But I do believe this could create an even bigger increase in UFO sightings. Whether those sightings are the result of excited imaginations or a true intelligent participation from whatever it is that is behind this mystery, that’s something I don’t think anyone could answer… yet.

    —–
    It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
    It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

    Red Pill Junkie

  2. The astronaut, the aliens, and greenish-purple lumps
    Here’s a direct link to the recent interview with Edgar Mitchell. Next week this url will go to next Tuesday’s show, so best listen now.

    >> NASA’s response: “Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinion on this issue.”

    Actually, this is part of NASA’s email response. If you listen to the broadcast at the link above, you’ll discover that the radio crew phoned NASA, saying they were most anxious to find someone from NASA who would agree to be interviewed about what Mitchell said on the show. Near the beginning of the broadcast, they play a recording of this phone call, and it’s well worth listening through a couple of lame rock songs to hear the NASA public affairs guy’s stunned response.

    From the book excerpt, with my bold:
    At the time of this book, however, there has yet been no hard, undeniable, physical evidence available in the public domain to substantiate such claims.

    From what I’ve literally seen with my own eyes, apparently such physical evidence comes and goes. High time I dropped a small bombshell of my own about that.

    About five years ago, the Disclosure Project launched its national campaign for disclosure in Boulder, CO, with a lecture by Dr. Steven Greer, followed by a two-hour film of the ‘testimonies’ of a number of highly credible ‘insiders’ who had only recently come forward.

    I went to this event. As usual, I arrived relatively late, and found the auditorium, as well as the large hallway outside it’s doors, jammed-packed with people. I analyzed the situation, and realized there was small hallway off to one side that led to the front of the auditorium, where there was still room (barely) for me to sit on the floor. So down the hallway I went, which resulted in me having a very pleasant conversation with Dr. Greer and one of his assistants in the ante-room at the front of the auditorium, before the lecture began.

    Most people left the auditorium during a longish break between the lecture and the film. Since I was at the front of the auditorium, I approached Dr. Greer during this break, and we took up where we’d left off in our ante-room conversation. We’d been talking for a couple of minutes when a man who was sitting in the middle of the auditorium got up and approached Dr. Greer. We politely broke off talking, and the man told Dr. Greer he’d been waiting for an opportunity to give him something for fourteen years. He pulled a tiny clear plastic box out of his pocket. Inside were four little lumps (about one gram each) of a greenish-purple substance which, I’d just learned from Dr. Greer’s lecture, had been found by military retrieval teams to be splattered, in semi-liquid form, all over everything at the sites of some downed UFOs. The man handed Dr. Greer two of the four greenish-purple lumps, which Dr. Greer quickly pocketed. The man quickly walked away – all the way out of the auditorium. After the break ended, and several times during the film, I looked over at the man’s still-empty seat in the auditorium. He never came back.

    This is the first time I’ve ever mentioned this incident. But after five years, I figure Dr. Greer has had plenty of time to get these lumps analyzed. I’d certainly like to know what the tests showed, but I’ve never seen anything at all posted at the Disclosure Project’s website about these greenish-purple lumps of supposedly alien substance.

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    For those with low bandwidth, here’s a rough transcript of the Edgar Mitchell interview:

    Nick: Do you believe in life on other planets?

    Mitchell: Oh, yes, there’s not much question at all but there’s life throughout the universe. We’re not alone in the universe at all.

    Nick: You’re convinced that we’re not alone in the universe?

    Mitchell: Oh, I know for sure we’re not alone in the universe. Now, have we been able to identify, for sure, where the other planets are? No, we have not — certainly not in our solar system. But, uhh, they’ve identified quite a few planets now that very likely could be life-bearing planets.

    And, uhh, I happen to be privileged enough to be in on the fact that we have been visited on this planet, and the UFO phenomenon is real, although it’s been covered up by governments for quite a long time.

    Nick: Whoa!! Well, this is big! So, uhh… This is quite a shock to me.

    Mitchell: Well, I’m sorry. You haven’t been reading the papers lately — it’s starting to open up quite a bit.

    Nick: So you’re telling me. Whoa! This is a lot of information to take onboard. Hang on a minute. Uh um I mean, listen, I’ve heard, like, crazy UFO nuts tell me this kind of thing before. I’ve never had Dr. Ed Mitchell, uh uh, the sixth man to walk on the moon, uh, a respected scientist in his own right, announce to me that we’ve been visited by aliens from other planets, and that they definitely are out there — there’s no debating it.

    Mitchell: Well, this is the first time you’ve ever talked to me, or I would have told you about it before.

    Nick: (Floored, giddy, giggle) So you believe in all… You believe in the whole…?

    Mitchell: No, there’s more nonsense out there about this than there is real knowledge. But it is a real phenomenon. And there’s quite a few of us… It’s been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60 years or so. But slowly it’s leaked out. And some of us have been privileged to have been briefed on some of it. I happen to have grown up in the — I don’t even know whether you know this place — Roswell, New Mexico where presumably the Roswell Incident of 1947 took place, and am quite knowledgable about what went on there — I grew up there. But I’ve also been in military circles and intelligence circles that know beneath the surface of what has been public knowledge. But, yes, we have been visited.

    Nick: So, you’re serious. You’re not gonna go, ‘You know, I was just pulling your leg about that. It’s not true’? I’m just wondering if I’ve stumbled upon ‘astronaut humor’, and in a couple of minutes you’re gonna go, ‘I was only pulling your leg.’

    Mitchell: No, I won’t say that.

    Nick: Wow! So.. Wow! So.. I mean, so you’ve been briefed on the fact that we’ve been visited?

    Mitchell: Well, I have — ‘briefed’ is one word for it. I have been involved in much of this work — now, it’s not my main work; not my main interest — but I have been deeply involved in certain committees and certain research programs with very credible scientists and intelligence people that, uh, do know the inside story. And I am not hesitant to talk about it.

    Nick: What is the real inside story?

    Mitchell: Well, I’ve just been telling you — we have been visited.

    Nick: Have they… I mean, are we in regular contact, or was it a one-off crash, or…?

    Mitchell: Well, no, there’s been quite a few — there’s quite a bit of contact going on. I can’t tell you, because I don’t know, all the extent of it, all the inside details, because that isn’t my, really, main interest. But the fact that we have been visited — the Roswell crash was real, and a number of other contacts have been real and ongoing — is pretty well known to those of us who have been briefed, and been close to the subject matter.

    Nick: So, why is it being covered up then? Why isn’t this mainstream…?

    Mitchell: Well, that goes back to the main incidence taking place after WWII, when in the United States, at least — I can’t speak for the European governments or the South American governments, all of whom have recently started opening up their files. And, uh, I mean, this has started to open up. And, uh, read the internet or look at some of the press — the international press — and you’ll start to get the story that’s coming out now. But, uh…

    Nick: I’ve had people on the show, telling me that we’re not — that, that — governments are mounting up toward disclosure — toward saying that this is the case. Do you think it will be the case that there will be actual disclosure this year — that it will come out?

    Mitchell: I don’t know whether it will be this year in the United States. But certainly, we’ve already had it in the last few years from the Belgium government, the French government, the Brazilian government, the Mexican government — they’ve opened their files — and admitted that they had the files.

    Nick: Um, okay, let me get my head together. Okay, listen. Here’s what I know. I’ve had people on the show talking about the fact that the Catholic Church said, ‘Belief in life on other planets doesn’t compromise your Catholicism…’

    Mitchell: Of course. That just happened recently…

    Nick: Yeah.

    Mitchell: …in association with a major release, I believe, of the British government’s — some of the British government’s — files. They weren’t their deepest files, but there were some files released.

    Nick: Yeah. What’s happening at the moment is that, over the next four years, all of the UFO files over here in the UK are being released. Do you think it’s the case that we are ramping up toward maybe the UK admitting…?

    Mitchell: Well, I can’t say how fast this is going to happen. But certainly the public awareness of it is increasing, and public acceptance is increasing. The amount of, uh, misinformation, and covert and actual attempts to cover up seems to be decreasing. I think we’re headed for real disclosure. And some very serious organizations are moving in that direction.

    Nick: What do you… You’ve had a long time to think about this… What do you think the impact will be – on the world – when it is finally mainstream news that there are alien beings that live outside this planet?

    Mitchell: Well, I think, at this point, it’s probably, ‘Ho-hum, so what’s new?’ I think that, certainly in the United States, well over 70 percent of the people now accept this as fact. While they may not – they do not – know all the correct story, they do know that there has been — or accept the fact that there has been — visitation, and that there’s UFOs in the skies all the time that are very likely alien craft. Now, not all of them are. I suspect some of them are home-grown. I suspect that, in the last 60 years or so, that there has been, umm, some backengineering, and the creation of this type of equipment. But’s it’s not nearly as sophisticated — yet! — as, uh, what the apparent visitors have.

    Nick: So as part of this… I mean, as part of you knowing about this, and also going public with it, are you worried about your own safety with this kind of stuff? Or are you convinced that this is…

    Mitchell: Oh, I think those days are gone. That used to be a concern among the people on the inside. But, uh, I don’t think they’re knocking anybody off for that anymore — or, uh, doing drastic things to them.

    Nick: What do you think the intent of the aliens is? Is it hostile, or peaceful?

    Mitchell: No, no, no — it’s not hostile. It’s pretty obvious that if it were hostile we’d have been gone by now.

    Nick: (giddy giggle) Really?! I mean, uh, what… uh, uh…

    Mitchell: We could have been.

    Nick: Wow!

    Mitchell: We had no defense — if that’s what their real intent was…

    Nick: And what are we talking — what do they look like? Are we talking the traditional…

    Mitchell: Well, you’ve seen some of the pictures. Uh, the pictures that I know of — some of them are these little people with… that look strange to us. As far as I know, from my contacts who have had contact, that’s pretty accurate.

    Nick: Wow!!! Do you think other people who were involved in the moon landings know about this?

    Mitchell: Some of them do. But again, it’s like other people — if you’re interested enough to dig into it, and want to know about it, you can know about it.

    Nick: Because, uh, listen, I know you’re a busy guy, and there’s other people…

    Mitchell: Yeah, they’re not leaving me alone, with this other phone that’s ringing all the time.

    Nick: This has easily been one of the most significant conversations of my life. Unbelievable! Just… I want to thank you for joining us.

    Mitchell: You bet.

    Nick: Listen, you’re a friend of the show — if you’d like to accept it. And thank you again for joining us.

    Mitchell: I’m glad you enjoyed it, Nick.

    ____________
    Cheers,

    Kat

    1. Poor Nasa guy 🙂
      That part of the show cracked me up. Who knows who this fellow was, but obviously was completely unprepared and shocked by the request of the rado host to comment on Mitchell’s allegations. The hesitation in the man’s voice about how carefully he could tread on these “hot coals” without getting burned—or rather, fired— was hilarious.

      Also, you guys shouldn’t miss Nick Pope’s comments.

      PS: OMG Kat! You’ve seen alien debris with your own eyes, and you haven’t mentioned it until now?? 😉

      —–
      It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
      It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

      Red Pill Junkie

      1. I will wait
        I will wait until Ed presents some evidence. It would be very interesting indeed.

        The behavior of the interviewer is not interesting, who cares? I want to know what Mitchell has. Not what he has to say, but what he has.

        Name names, materials, something concrete. As opposed to “I knew people that knew”. What people?

        I want some hard data. Ed Mitchell may be in a position to come up with some hard data. Why does he not tell us what these are?

        —-
        The large print giveth,
        The small print taketh away.

  3. Re: The Astronaut, the Aliens, and the Hype
    I just informed my 11 year old son about Dr. Mitchell’s remarks and he leapt out of his chair (dropping his GameCube remote) and exclaimed, “Yoo Hoo!, I KNEW it!” He’s a very happy camper and ready for full disclosure! To him, it just happened. 😀

    1. Gee…
      I envy your son. I wish I was still like that, before the world turned me into the bitter cynic I am now 😉

      —–
      It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
      It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

      Red Pill Junkie

  4. Astronaut, AstroNot, or AstroNut?
    I’m sure people will call him all three. And even though I tend toward the middle one (a la Moon Hoax Conspiracy Fact), he will (they will) always be heroes in my book, regardless.

    The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

    btw — I’ve recently started seriously thinking about working with the Google Lunar X-Prize Open Source Lunar Lander/Rover Mission Team.

    http://frednet.org/

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