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News Briefs 29-02-2008

Happy birthday to Dr Dean Radin, who turns 14 today

Thanks Rick and Kat.

Quote of the Day:

Very few things happen at the right time,and the rest do not happen at all. A conscientious historian will correct these defects.

Herodotus

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    1. Fixxored
      Link is working now, thanks for the heads-up.

      For any communication with TDG admins, just put their name before @dailygrail.com. Actually, that reminds me – RPJ needs an email.

      Kind regards,
      Greg
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          1. No worries!
            I already have those 😉

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  1. The true cost of war
    Wow. You’ve got to back to Goebbels to find writing of that caliber. Aida Edemariam is a leftist, quotes leftists, associates with leftists, and uses leftist propaganda techniques to push a leftist agenda. Other that, I’m sure she’s a perfectly reasonable person.

    I wouldn’t even know where to start in dismantling that mess. Here we see the same kind of stretches that allow extremists to claim the U.S. has murdered 600,000 Iraqis. The bulk of the “trillions” is, as she classifies it, an estimate. But not much detail on how that estimate came to be. Another trillion is “future interest”. Of course, all this back bending and financial assumptions could be done, to much a much greater extent, on the spending and waste that all governments engage in while running big gub’mint, cradle-to-grave, we’ll run your life for you, social programs (with other people’s money).

    Note the real purpose for the article: not to complain about spending loads of money, but rather the fact that it’s not being spent on expansive government programs that would move the socialist order forward.

    Of course Edemariam is just the useful idiot passing on the conclusions of Stiglitz and Bilmes, whose agendas are anything but subtle, so I don’t want to be too hard on her.

    Ah hell, yes I do.

    Flame away.

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    1. Less than the cost of cable!
      $138/month?? What shocked me about that accounting exercise was how affordable their madness was, weighing in at probably less than what the average family household pays for their satellite or cable bill once you add in all the channel-packages and pay-per-views, I’d wager the average American would say that’s darn good value for all the foreign blood and cool exploding toys they can then leverage as fodder for feeding the scripts and topics of content for said television channels.

      how’s that for confrontational 😉

      1. LOL
        The “analysis” of the war spending also leaves out one very important assumption (while they’re at it): the cost incurred when unopposed terrorists run amok, killing en masse and destroying cities and infrastructure, because leftists won’t let anyone fight them.

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        1. Hypocrite
          Then why don’t you put on your camo and go fight the terrorists, Anonymous?

          Odd how the people most fanatical about fighting terrorists never do it themselves, and let younger men die in their place.

          1. Been there, done that.
            Desert Storm. Ever heard of it? Attacking me won’t win a debate. But, if it’s all you got…..

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          2. Just making a Comparison
            Just pointing out that I have put on the camo. I didn’t stand back and critisize while others did the heavy lifting.

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          3. I’m not criticising Desert Storm
            I’m not criticising Desert Storm, Anonymous. For the record, I supported military action against Saddam Hussein’s Baathists, particularly in response to the mass killings of Kurds and other minorities, but also when Iraq invaded Kuwait.

            Unfortunately, Saddam was allowed to remain in power. I’m sure you regret not being allowed to finish the job.

          4. Terrorist
            [quote]mass killings of Kurds[/quote]

            Which is the act of a TERRORIST, I might point out. Financially supporting Hezbollah makes one a terrorist as well. Oh, and harboring terrorist groups within your borders does too. Oh, and giving medical treatment and safe haven to Al Queada leaders fleeing the Afghan battle field counts as well. Oh, and convincing the world that you possess WMDs (because you certainly did at one time and you certainly still had the material, personnel and programs in place to produce them again), and you have the unstable history that you have, is a bit of a tip off too.

            I’m jes sayin’…..

            [quote]I’m sure you regret not remaining in Iraq and finishing the job.[/quote]

            Ah, so Bush Sr. should not have kept his word about his intentions and strategy. Yeah, that would’ve gone over real good with the pinkos already screaming for the war to end when the ground war was less than 12 hours old.
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          5. Free range
            [quote=Anonymous]Oh, and convincing the world that you possess WMDs (because [Iraq] certainly did at one time and [Iraq] certainly still had the material, personnel and programs in place to produce them again), and you have the unstable history that you have, is a bit of a tip off too.[/quote]

            Which is kinda puzzling why the US set Dr Germ and Mrs Anthrax free a couple of years ago.

          6. Not the U.S.
            Actually, it was the Iraqi government that set them free. By some accounts, in an effort to win the release of western captives. With leftists the world over demanding that we set terrorists free, I don’t know why you’d have a problem with it. Ironically, it was only after extensive U.S. interrogations that it was determined there wasn’t enough to hold them. Would you have preferred water boarding or just holding them for a few more years without charges?

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          7. Irony
            [quote=Anonymous] Ironically, it was only after extensive U.S. interrogations that it was determined there wasn’t enough to hold them. Would you have preferred water boarding or just holding them for a few more years without charges?[/quote]

            By those standards there should be no prisoners at Guantanamo Bay at all, and Australian David Hicks should never have been imprisoned, without charges, for over five years. Very odd how there are no qualms about holding Guantanamo prisoners “for a few more years without charges”.

            Ironically, you’re fanatical against terrorists (you’d shoot OBL dead if given the chance), yet you excuse the US Govt of allowing two major terrorists guilty of making chemical weapons used to commit mass murder to walk free. Kinda makes a mockery of the War Against Terrorism, doesn’t it.

          8. Projecting
            [quote]two major terrorists guilty of making chemical weapons to commit mass murder.[/quote]

            Yeah….see, the word “guilty” is the problem. They weren’t tried. Personally, I think they were/are bad people, but you are convicting them without a trial, despite official statements that there wasn’t enough to even hold them. The Gitmo guys were caught on the battlefield or in otherwise obvious situations. As combatants, they aren’t entitled to a “trial”.

            You’re missing the point that the double-standard doesn’t exist with me, but with you. How odd that you would release those caught, red-handed, engaging in battle or terrorist-related activities, but not release civilians, suspected of crimes, but not proven of committing them.

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          9. Geneva Convention
            [quote=Anonymous]The Gitmo guys were caught on the battlefield or in otherwise obvious situations. As combatants, they aren’t entitled to a “trial”.[/quote]

            I guess the American Govt had their fingers crossed when the Third Geneva Convention was ratified. But keep shoveling, Anonymous, you’ll dig yourself out of your hole eventually.

            From Human Rights Watch dot org:

            According to several sources, ranging from interviews with former detainees to press reports citing U.S. officials in Afghanistan, as many as several dozen detainees sent to Guantanamo were simply farmers, taxi drivers, and laborers with no meaningful ties to the Taliban or al-Qaeda—not the enemy combatants the Bush Administration claimed.

            But I guess the 13-year-old held in 2004 no longer counts as a child, he’d be almost 18 now.

          10. “Sources”
            Terrorists and terrorists supporters do have a tendancy to lie.

            Terrorist? Why no, my cousin Abdul is a humble taxi driver. He was driving past those American troops with his AK-47 blaring because he had a fare to pick up.

            Odd, that some people are quick to believe the enemies side of the story but by default are skeptical of the other side.

            Oh, and terrorists don’t meet the criteria of combantants that qualify for Geneva Convention protections. But I’m sure they would appreciate you looking out for them.

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          11. def. of terrorist
            [quote=Anonymous]Oh, and terrorists don’t meet the criteria of combantants that qualify for Geneva Convention protections. [/quote]

            That’s the problem: today’s definition of “terrorist” is so vague and diffuse, anyone can be mistaken for one eventually.
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          12. Nope
            Not really. But those who would call the U.S. Marines “terrorists”, for an example, would have you believe so.

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          13. Say what?
            [quote=Anonymous]The Gitmo guys were caught on the battlefield or in otherwise obvious situations.[/quote]

            Since when the streets of Europe or other countries became “a battlefield”? Many Gitmo prisoners were substracted (or should we say, KIDNAPPED) and sent to Guantanamo without any trial, and with the leniency of many EU countries who permited CIA flights over their air space
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          14. Some, sure.
            Most of original Gitmo guests were caught on the battlefield. But, as the Left needs to reminded of from time to time, 9/11 happened in the middle of a civilian city as well. Part of being a terrorist is that you don’t generally have the stones to do your business on a battlefield. They prefer places like the streets of Europe (plenty of sympathizers and pacifists there, but that’s another story).

            From 2005:
            Those held at Gitmo are 518 of the worst al Qaeda and Taliban in captivity, culled from more than 70,000 prisoners captured on Afghanistan battlefields.

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          15. Well, THAT is reassurin 🙁
            So now the entire globe is a battlefield, and anyone can be the enemy…

            That’s sounds a little like… paranoia.

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            Red Pill Junkie

          16. Nope
            Nope, that what the terrorists have done to our world. By their own admission. That the reality.

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          17. Then they have already won
            Because that’s the ultimate purpose of this bunch (note that I refer to them as merely a bunch) of people: to make you live in perpetual fear; always looking over your shoulder; always being suspicious of anyone or anything that doesn’t see things your way.

            Such is the power you have given to them.

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            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

          18. Odd
            Odd that some people AREN’T fanatical about fighting terrorists.

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          19. Ridiculous
            Oh, so the Allies of WWII were “monsters” just like Hitler? And American troops are just like OBL? Uh huh.

            No, you don’t become a monster. You just have the guts to put on your armor, leave the village, and slay the monster in it’s den. To hell with the villagers who think you’re a “mean brute”. At least they’re still alive, whether they appreciate it or not.

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          20. Fairy tales
            [quote=Anonymous]No, you don’t become a monster. You just have the guts to put on your armor, leave the village, and slay the monster in it’s den. To hell with the villagers who think you’re a “mean brute”. At least they’re still alive, whether they appreciate it or not.[/quote]

            The problem is that, instead of going to the cave where the dragon was hiding, the brave knight thought it was easier to pick a fight with the ugly troll he had fed and clothed not so long ago, but had since them become too unruly.

            I stopped believing in fairy tales a long time ago, you know.
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            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

          21. Uh Huh
            If only the history were that simple. For the reasons I pointed out, SH was just as much a monster in his cave as OBL is in his. If you you’ve got two monsters causing havoc in the coutryside it’s not good long term planning to go after one but leave another one alone. You don’t declare war on monsters but say “we’ll leave most of them alone and only go after the one that we know attacked us yesterday”. The future victims don’t really appreciate that stratedgy. Are you going to look them in the eye and tell them that since the monster didn’t attack your village, you would’ve just left him in place to keep terrorizing them? The moraility of that aside, it’s not very smart on your part because the monster WILL come after you, in some way, eventually.

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      1. How could I do that?
        C’mon, even you would get lonely in an echo chamber.

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          1. Silence?
            No, you enjoy the echoes. They sound just like your own voice. That’s how the chamber works.

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  2. Mary, Mary …
    Interesting hullaballoo over the Mary Poppins thing, but I think, y’know, they may actually have something newsworthy in that initial report: Was Mary Poppins illiterate?

    Think about it. Despite obvious good judgement, cleverness, poise, resourcefulness and pragmatism, she hangs out with chimney sweeps and used-book dealers and gets herself employed as a common domestic! Were she illiterate, wouldn’t she perceive words phonetically? Hence her concept of reversing the word would be to reverse the sounds not the symbols representing those sounds!

  3. Dawkins new book 🙂
    LOL! Sorry Greg, but I fear the timing would not be right. Dawkins would probably do first a book against the “Easter Bunny Delusion”.

    Besides, not even HE has the charisma and mediatic stature to go against the interests of all the Toy Companies that profit from that particular belief. Not to mention the Union of Mall Santas, that would undoubtedly send their Ninja Elfs’ Delta Squad in a search-and-destroy mission against anyone who dares to oppose them.

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