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News Briefs 01-06-2007

Travelling on the weekend, so won’t be around till Monday. I’m sure you won’t know how to fill the void in your life…

Quote of the Day:

It is no great accomplishment to hear a voice in the head. The accomplishment is to make sure that it is telling you the truth, because the demons are of many kinds…The reaction to these voices is not to kneel in genuflection before a god, because then one will be like Dorothy in her first encounter with Oz. Magicians, people who invoke these things, have always understood that one must go into such encounters with one’s wits about oneself.

Terence McKenna

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  1. penile size
    Although that is interesting, there is an even more interesting article on the right hand side of the page about a penis worm.
    And even more interesting is the forum where this worm is discussed.

    shadows

    Ain’t life grand!

    1. Why Worry?
      Shadows

      Why am I not supprised that you would make a comment about this?

      What do you think?

      cnnek

      {You Can Teach People How To Think Or What To Think; But, You Can’t Do Both! It Is Better To Teach People How To Think!!!}

        1. I Was Kidding You!
          Shadows

          You couldn’t be more perfect!

          On the other hand, I’ve never understood why penis size is so important! My identity resides between my ears, not my legs.

          What do you think?

          cnnek

          {You Can Teach People How To Think Or What To Think; But, You Can’t Do Both! It Is Better To Teach People How To Think!!!}

          1. You should have seen Rove the other night cnnek
            Rove McManus is one of our best-loved blokes here.He has a Tonight Show.The other night he promised a nuddy run by two comedians Hamish and Andy.

            I waited up to see Rove, then I waited for the nuddy run which they put at the end of the show.
            THEN I find that the blokes ran with their hands clasped in front of them.
            Should have run with their hands clasped behind their backs in my opinion.

            I’m an old lady and life is short.

            shadows

          2. I Wish That I Had Seen Rove!
            Shadows

            You’re my kind of lady! Old? I think that we’re close to the same age and I’m not old. Therefore, you can’t be old. So, stop trying to put me on Shadows!

            What do you think?

            cnnek

            {You Can Teach People How To Think Or What To Think; But, You Can’t Do Both! It Is Better To Teach People How To Think!!!}

          3. is this a case of I in hand is better than 1 in bush?
            The analogy to birds or is it for the birds? sorry about the double puns. There is another way to look at it said the spider as he went up the mirror, I wonder what adherents of the rosy palm school would think about all this research into the love of their life. This was a seminally loaded topic to say the least,

            In the interest of science who came to grips with all these subjectees in this study, the art of measurement vs science of measurement is still a bone of contention in these studies. What annoys me is that I have never been consulted by any of these surveys my entire life, nor do I know anybody who has.

            I would like to know precisely what type of metering devices were used on these peters and how they calibrated them so that they correspond to internationally verifiable standards. To be scientific means each study has to rise to the occasion in precisely the same manner, no offside wanking should be tolerated.

    2. Tis Is
      Dear shadows, There was a health program on recently that showed those penile invading creatures that attach themselves and a microscope view showing the barbs, made my skin crawl just seeing it. Love, Pam —————————–Truth is stranger than fiction.

  2. Dark Matter!
    Greg

    Dark matter is extremely interesting and I think that there is much to be learned from the study of it. It’s exciting that technology has advanced to the point where we can begin to really study it! In this regard, the study of black holes is intreging.

    What do you think?

    cnnek

    {You Can Teach People How To Think Or What To Think; But, You Can’t Do Both! It Is Better To Teach People How To Think!!!}

  3. dark matter…….
    a cloud of dark matter can only be a Romulon ship with the cloaking device on.

    Thought everyone knew that!

    “Life can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you do what your told.”
    LRF.

    1. indeed
      The study of dark matter will become much more interesting when we can actually find more of it. And I’m not joking, we will.

      The clouds we have seen must be whole fleets of Romulan ships, several light years across. And we thought global warming was a problem.

      —-
      There are 3 kinds of people. Those who can count, and those who cannot.

      1. Never Fear!
        Earthling

        The Klingons and the Vulcans will defend us!

        You worry too much!:)

        What do you think?

        cnnek

        {You Can Teach People How To Think Or What To Think; But, You Can’t Do Both! It Is Better To Teach People How To Think!!!}

    2. Yes, I Did!
      Floppy 1

      So, I asked one of my Romulon friends about it. He said that it wasn’t a Romulon Ship with a cloaking devise; because, it could be detected. So, I asked one of my Klingon friends. She said that she wanted me to get her a date with the Romulon before she would tell me anything. So, I’m working hard to get her a date with the Romulon; because, she is a Klingon scientist and I think that she knows what it is!

      What do you think?

      cnnek

      {You Can Teach People How To Think Or What To Think; But, You Can’t Do Both! It Is Better To Teach People How To Think!!!}

      1. valid approach
        Dark matter is a difficult problem, so a multi-pronged approach seems like a good idea. Perhaps you can find something with your social contacts, by all means try.

        —-
        There are 3 kinds of people. Those who can count, and those who cannot.

        1. Don’t matter
          I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The obvious answer to dark matter is that it is a substance required to make the math fit. Hence, both the Romulons and Klingons could have more reality than dark matter.
          Should we be poking fun at such dangerous forces? We can’t rely on the Vulcans all the time.

          The balanced adult retains the inner child

          Anthony North

          1. yes
            It’s an accounting trick. It basically quantifies by how much the current cosmological model is wrong. Same as dark energy.

            —-
            There are 3 kinds of people. Those who can count, and those who cannot.

          2. I don’t think it’s fair…
            to bring Darth Vadar into this!

            Dark matter does not exist. As Anthony said, it’s only yet another Higgs Boson thingy to balance the accounts so to speak.
            How come when I come up with an unfounded theory I am ridiculed, yet scientist are patted on the back.

            It’s a crazy world!!!!!!!!!

            “Life can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you do what your told.”
            LRF.

          3. And some of their theories are ridiculous!
            The scientific viewpoint of animals is totally wrong for a start.

            shadows

          4. matter and energy
            Actually to be a little serious for a bit, the dark matter is not that much of a problem.

            It could be that it is just dust, or planets, other stuff that we just can’t observe now.

            What is worse is the dark energy, the mysterious force that comes from empty space, and pushes matter apart. Now that is strange.

            —-
            There are 3 kinds of people. Those who can count, and those who cannot.

          5. that is strange
            the magnetic theory can explain all that and more. But first a mind shift needs to occure.
            We all know the humble fridge magnet hangs on to your bills and papers for years defying gravity and expending energy to do so, yet it has no energy source. This alone is a slap in the face of known physics and its laws.
            So lets just think for a minute…………why are there so many holes in current theory and why are they hanging onto them????
            Because they will not admit to being wrong!
            Every single aspect of modern life has been fashioned by what we thought we knew about stuff…….look around you…..the world is a mess…..Concede defeat and climb out of the box and look at a different angle. (not you earthling). That was not directed personaly at you but at science.
            Dark matter could exist but I very much doubt it. Like you said…..it could be something else we have not yet put our finger on.

            If the universe functions on magnetic energy in frequency to what it will attract or not, then light would not be exempt. So a area of frequency that attracts light would be seen as a blank spot, dark matter, no light. But really there is no matter there, just an area where light is not seen. When I say seen, we see what reflects light not actual light. Light allows us to see things. If there is no light then we can not see anything.

            I value your comment earthling.

            “Life can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you do what your told.”
            LRF.

          6. not mind shift
            My friend (and I really mean the friend part), you really need to quantify the predictions your new theory makes.

            A new philosophy to get a handle on why this stuff works is fine, but to compete with the established theories, you need to make quantifiable predictions.

            So you need to devise some experiments, or find collaborators who can do that. But first, you need to get ideas on what these experiments might be.

            Find something that would prove your theory wrong. Then make an experiment, and if it fails to prove your theory wrong, you are much more convincing.

            Of course to do all that, you have to formulate your theory in a precise way.

            But you know all that.

            —-
            There are 3 kinds of people. Those who can count, and those who cannot.

          7. it’s not solely my theory
            But like all knowledge gained throughout history, it begins with a thought then mechanism to prove or dis-prove the theory. Until a reliable mechanism to measure and allocate frequency to magnetic source then I am afraid I can’t quantify it. But all the signs are there and the logic is sound. Just need the proof. It will come.

            “Life can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you do what your told.”
            LRF.

          8. indeed
            If this stuff actually is helpful in the sense of a better theory, more work remains to be done. So to progress from an abstract idea, it needs to be formalized. This is the ugly part, but it has to be done.

            So keep at it. Perhaps you and the other proponents of this idea will find acceptance and useful applications. Or perhaps you will find that the idea doesn’t hold up. Both can happen.

            —-
            There are 3 kinds of people. Those who can count, and those who cannot.

          9. I Was Not Ridiculing You!
            Floppy

            I’m sorry if my comment offended you!

            What do you think?

            cnnek

            {You Can Teach People How To Think Or What To Think; But, You Can’t Do Both! It Is Better To Teach People How To Think!!!}

          10. I Think That Much More Research Is Needed!
            Floppy

            We cannot account for all of the forces in the Universe; but, some day we may be able to do so. We do not know enough to discount the possibility of dark matter. But, there are, for example, bodies in the Kepler Belt beyond the orbit of Pluto that we cannot observe. These bodies would constitute a type of dark matter. Furthermore, there are probably failed stars, and other planet sized objects in the Universe that broke away from their star when they were old, and/or dying. These would constitute another type of dark matter; because, we cannot observe them. Black Holes would constitute another type of dark matter. The questions is, however, “Is there enough of it to make the math work?” And, on that point, I tend to agree with you! But, “What does make the math work?” There are quite a few things that we don’t know about. And, I tend agree with the math; because, in essence, it is telling us that there are forces that are unaccounted for. So, I think that much more research is needed!

            What do you think?

            cnnek

            {You Can Teach People How To Think Or What To Think; But, You Can’t Do Both! It Is Better To Teach People How To Think!!!}

      2. tread carefully cnnek….
        last time I got mixed up with a deal with a Klingon I was told I was ‘eDjen ’em. And then spat on.
        Harsh people those Klingons.

        “Life can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you do what your told.”
        LRF.

          1. indeed
            I ridicule cartoons, presidents, popes, saints, pretty much anyone.

            Haven’t really gotten around to ridiculing you shadows, I don’t know if I want to.

            —-
            There are 3 kinds of people. Those who can count, and those who cannot.

          2. hey shadows
            earthlng has a very dry sence of humor…..I like that.
            And his very objective in his posts. Brings a good balance and provocs thought. Either way, his a regular and like him or not, his posts are very helpful to me.

            PS……..If your a female, just change the him to her.

            “Life can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you do what your told.”
            LRF.

          3. Objective? Who, earthling?
            Did you read the thread where he called me harsh and nasty and a few other things because I disagreed with him?
            I went to a lot of trouble on that thread to try and get him to understand where I was coming from and it went right over his head.
            I was also kind and understanding to him.
            What a waste of time.

            You know damn well I am a woman floppy.

            Funny?

            Not on your nelly.

            If you want to play boy games with the boys, fine.Don’t try and explain it to me.

            shadows

          4. Damn
            I’m not game to use the “preview comment” option so I edited it and then tried to edit it again but was locked out.
            The female part was in reference to earthling. And I should have said “most of the time” for other parts.

            water off a ducks back ;-{)

            “Life can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you do what your told.”
            LRF.

          5. This Is True!
            Floppy

            Good Point!

            What do you think?

            cnnek

            {You Can Teach People How To Think Or What To Think; But, You Can’t Do Both! It Is Better To Teach People How To Think!!!}

          6. i understand that
            yes Shadows, I know that I am not on your all time list of the most agreeable people.

            I call them as I see them, and you are mature enough to understand those things. So you don’t have to like me, it is ok.

            —-
            There are 3 kinds of people. Those who can count, and those who cannot.

          7. You don’t call them as you see them, earthling
            When you are being bested in a debate you use the old furphy that you are used to being disrespected.
            That is a mind game.
            You do that so that you will get some sympathy.
            And to make the other debater feel bad.
            I don’t play mind games.

            The reason I do not find you likeable is that I don’t feel you are as upfront about things as you should be.
            I would love you to call it as you see it, but that does not appear to be the way you do things.

            shadows

          8. sympathy
            On some points I don’t agree with you. So what?

            I’m not looking for sympathy. Sometimes disagreements can be resolved by debate, by discovering move information from other people. Or by developing, or refining, better ideas through debate.

            Other times, the disagreement can’t be resolved. There are many reasons for that.

            If you don’t like me Shadows, it is your problem, not mine.

            —-
            There are 3 kinds of people. Those who can count, and those who cannot.

          9. Let Me Put It This Way!
            Earthling

            An attack on one of my friends, like Shadows, is an attack on me, and I will respond! {Note that I used “Will” with the first person singular Not “Shall”]

            What do you think?

            cnnek

            {You Can Teach People How To Think Or What To Think; But, You Can’t Do Both! It Is Better To Teach People How To Think!!!}

          10. Focus
            (Note: Posted in reply to cnnek’s post as a convenience of page position, not aimed solely at him).

            I think it’s time that people pulled their heads in a little. Discuss the topics, not each other please.

            Kind regards,
            Greg
            ——————————————-
            You monkeys only think you’re running things

          11. Good Point !
            Greg

            I just don’t like bullying and I know that you don’t either!

            What do you think?

            cnnek

            {You Can Teach People How To Think Or What To Think; But, You Can’t Do Both! It Is Better To Teach People How To Think!!!}

  4. wow, an ongoing mad hatters tea party..
    What a shame bubba and I can’t sally forth into this fray with or without sally. Since the queeen of tarts is not here to referee this game of crock-it along with the rest of the mad hatters’ philosophizers, bubba and I say adieu and most likely wil return when more light gets shed in murky corners… bye

    1. saving time
      Perhaps you left out some blog or other where you haven’t said adieu. Maybe create a blog where you say “bye” for all of them. You will be done sooner.

      —-
      There are 3 kinds of people. Those who can count, and those who cannot.

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