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News Briefs 13-12-2010

What’s your definition of an ‘advanced lifeform’? Do we ‘ugly, ugly giant bags of mostly water’ make the grade? Or would you reserve that term for a being more like Q?

Thanks to Charlotte P, Dr. Greg Little, and Red Pill Junkie.

Quote of the Day:

Data: Doctor, what is the definition of life?
Doctor Crusher: That is a BIG question. Why do you ask?
Data: I am searching for a definition that will allow me to test an hypothesis.
Doctor Crusher: Well, the broadest scientific definition might be that life is what enables plants and animals to consume food, derive energy from it, grow, adapt themselves to their surroundings, and reproduce.
Data: And you suggest that anything that exhibits these characteristics is considered alive?
Doctor Crusher: In general, yes.
Data: What about me? I do not grow. I do not reproduce. Yet I am considered to be alive.
Doctor Crusher: That’s true. But you are unique.
Data: Hmm. I wonder if that is so.
Doctor Crusher: Data, if I may ask, what exactly are you getting at?
Data: I’m curious as to what transpired between the moment when I was nothing more than an assemblage of parts in Dr. Soong’s laboratory and the next moment when I became alive. What is it that endowed me with life?
Doctor Crusher: I remember Wesley asking me a similar question when he was little, and I tried desperately to give him an answer. But everything I said sounded inadequate. Then I realized that scientists and philosophers have been grappling with that question for centuries without coming to any conclusion.
Data: Are you saying the question cannot be answered?
Doctor Crusher: No – I think I’m saying that we struggle all our lives to answer it — that it’s the struggle that is important. That’s what helps us to define our place in the universe.

Star Trek: The Next Generation, The Quality of Life episode.
This quote was mostly found in a 2008 forum thread’s heated argument over whether on not several sci-fi creations, especially Transformers, are ‘alive’.

  1. Meade & War, etc…….
    I believe that she, and all the other’s trying to understand war are wrong. They view war as something out of the ordinary. I view it AS the ordinary.

    One of my favorite quotes is this:

    “Peace is a theoretical state whose existence we determine because there have been intervals between wars.”

    War is the normal human state, a part of our makeup both physical and psychological and I would even venture spiritual. Our concept of civilization was originally developed to help mitigate the damage of war and competition, to attempt to set some boundaries.

    We humans are no more peaceful then wolves. We simply refuse to acknowledge it.

    V/R

      1. more examples
        As some of the comments to the article point out, there are also plenty of examples of cultures engaged in warfare in animals. Ant and bee colonies do this, chimps do this.

        It seems to me that human wars are not an “invention” in the normal sense. Inventions are something new, that is not developed again and again spontaneously.

        At what point is something a “war”, as opposed to just a fight? Do you need 3 people, or 5? Do you need planning 2 days ahead or 2 weeks?

        I don’t see a clear dividing line between individual violence and war. And since these things occur in societies other than human ones, limiting the investigation to anthropology and relatively modern culture will probably ignore important aspects, and over-emphasize aspects exclusive to humans.

  2. On war…


    Gwedd:
    “War is the normal human state, a part of our makeup both physical and psychological and I would even venture spiritual. Our concept of civilization was originally developed to help mitigate the damage of war and competition, to attempt to set some boundaries.”

    Kat:
    “… there are at least two (ongoing) cultures which have never engaged in warfare. They don’t even have a word for war.”

    Perhaps is it both and neither. It may be that war is indeed a natural state for humanity due to the culture it most often creates in civilization. But on the off-occasion, it will evolve one… perhaps isolated, that does not trigger it.

    We can learn a lot about ourselves by watching those animals we most favor… and that most favor us. Dogs are a good example.

    They are jealous, greedy and in a group, can behave unpredictably. They can be very loyal to a leader and they are survival-reproduction driven just like we are.

    They covet what the another has and will steal without a second thought. But woe unto the small dog caught taking the bone of a bigger one!

    Alone, the best of the species can be enjoyed. Mono-e-mono, a dog is a good companion. It is only when they are in competition with others of their kind that they become a problem.

    Curiously enough, it is our own competitive natures that often lead to conflicts. Historically, we vented in the gladiatorial arena or today, on a football gridiron. It is an’out’ for those drives that build. But still and all, the free market concept is the basis of our society and competition seen as being very healthy.

    Who knows?

    Two very good points! Thank you for sharing 🙂

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