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News Briefs 25-09-2009

“It has yet to be proven that intelligence has any survival value…”

Danke Schöen to Kat & RPJ & Greg & RMG

Quote of the Day:

“If we have learned one thing from the history of invention and discovery, it is that, in the long run – and often in the short one – the most daring prophecies seem laughably conservative…”

Arthur C. Clarke

  1. Immutable Law of Nature…?
    HEADLINES!

    Antarctic coastal ice thinning surprises experts!

    Scientists are surprised at how extensively coastal ice in Antarctica and Greenland is thinning

    http://tinyurl.com/nuwzss

    Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking!

    ICE is expanding in much of Antarctica, contrary to the widespread public belief that global warming is melting the continental ice cap.

    http://tinyurl.com/c6wyec

    For every Global Warming proponent there is an equal but opposite proponent

    Yes, we are that dumb

    HA ha -Nelson

    🙂

    Cheers

    1. Density
      If you say that the ice in Antarctica is growing based on satellite images —i.e. we see a larger area of ‘white’— then… do we know the density of that ice?

      Maybe what we’re seeing is the displacement of ice layers due to melting. Same thing happens to a ball of ice cream floating on a glass of coke as it gets warmer. So it wouldn’t mean that the ice is growing; it just means that a thinner layer of ice is spreading.

      1. I’m not saying…
        It’s not me! Its experts who are saying we have global warming and experts saying we aren’t! So it seems one direction is being favoured and is presented by the media. (think brain police)

        [quote]An international team of scientists has used the latest electro-magnetic induction equipment to discover that the Arctic ice is in fact “twice as thick” as they had expected…

        http://tinyurl.com/oq86s4 [/quote]

        [quote]…an error known as sensor drift caused a slowly growing underestimation of Arctic sea ice extent. The underestimation reached approximately 500,000 square kilometres (193,000 square miles) by mid-February.

        http://tinyurl.com/c2gbyo [/quote]

        [quote]Stubborn glaciers fail to retreat, awkward polar bears continue to multiply

        http://tinyurl.com/y8947zh [/quote]

        [quote]Alaskan Glaciers Grow for First Time in 250 years

        http://tinyurl.com/52ovwn [/quote]

        [quote]Much publicity was given, for instance, to Lewis Gordon Pugh, who set out to paddle a kayak to the Pole to demonstrate the vanishing of the Arctic ice. At 80.5 degrees north, still 600 miles short of his goal, he met with ice so thick that he and his fossil-fuelled support ship had to turn back.

        But this did not prevent him receiving a congratulatory call from Gordon Brown, nor boasting that he had travelled “further north than anyone has kayaked so far”.

        It took the admirable Watts Up With That blog, run by the American meteorologist Anthony Watts, to point out that in 1893 the Norwegian explorer Fridtjof Nansen found the Arctic so ice-free that he was able to kayak above 82 degrees north, 100 miles nearer the Pole than our hapless campaigner against “unprecedented global warming”. (HAHA)

        http://tinyurl.com/ycdk52b [/quote]

        The more you dig the more you find that only the “Holy Crap look at what global warming is doing” stories go mainstream.

        Why is that I wonder? Hint: You need to BUY green things dammit!

        HAHA

        Cheers

  2. Environmentalists target plush toilet paper
    Puhleeese!!

    Hey, guys if you want to be “green” stop hugging trees and install “Japanese Toilet Seats” that use warm water to gently clean your backsides. If not then put that toilet paper where your mouth is!

    http://tinyurl.com/ya6q9ft

    We have one and a ONE roll of toilet paper lasts about a month!! That roll, by the way, is the plushest one we can get softened with humpback whale tears and made from only the choicest and oldest endangered Amazon rain forest trees cut down by indigenous tribal people who later had to be relocated to work at McDonald’s and Wal-Mart.

    😛

    Cheers

    1. Now that’s funny.. 🙂
      But seriously,

      Folks are all the time crying about renewable resources. Where I come from, trees are still a renewable resource. In fact, we have 3 times as much forest land today as we did in 1860.

      This issue, though, is a prime example of what happens when folks refuse to follow the adage to “drink deeply from the well of learning, for a little knowledge is a dangerous thing”. Toilet paper and tissue paper use less than 5% of all the paper produced each year. The lion’s share goes to cardboard and paper packaging materials. That means that all the folks who decided to buy over the intertubes rather than going to the store in order to save the planet are using up all the trees.. 🙂

      Folks really need to stop worrying so much and either bet busy living, or get busy dying. I haven’t the time to waste on such foolishness as worrying about toilet paper.

      respects,

      1. Renewable
        Well, there’s renewable, and there’s ‘renewable’.

        Yes, if you cut down a tree, you can plant a seed to replace it. But that takes quite a while, doesn’t it?

        Meanwhile, if you cut down a lot of trees, the top soil gets eroded, and then you find yourself with a land that is not fertile any more. So you can’t plant diddly squat.

        Maybe somebody should make toilet paper out of marijuana 😛

        1. Tree Farms my friend
          [quote=red pill junkie]Well, there’s renewable, and there’s ‘renewable’.

          Yes, if you cut down a tree, you can plant a seed to replace it. But that takes quite a while, doesn’t it?

          Meanwhile, if you cut down a lot of trees, the top soil gets eroded, and then you find yourself with a land that is not fertile any more. So you can’t plant diddly squat.

          Maybe somebody should make toilet paper out of marijuana :-P[/quote]

          Why aren’t there “corn huggers” or “wheat huggers”? What is is about tree farms that gets everyone so crazy?

          Wait… that’s the Organic lobby! Lots of money there!

          Cheers

        2. farming
          Tree farming is a very established practice. Paper products are made from farmed trees.

          Basically all of Europe’s forests are tree farms. Most of the provinces of Ontario and Quebec are tree farms. In terms of area, Ontario+Quebec are bigger than Mexico, by about 1/2 million square kilometers.

          This is renewable, at a very reliable rate. We have done this for hundreds of years.

          1. Maybe in Canada
            Maybe in Canada tree farming is a very estabilized practice.

            But in Mexico, illegal logging is big business. And the poor farmers that report the loggers to the authorities get murdered.

          2. toiler paper
            I don’t believe that illegal logging is done to produce toilet paper.

            If that should be incorrect, meaning that people do illegally cut down trees in country X to make toilet paper, then that country has problems. And the problem is not the softness of the toilet paper, nor is it the toilet paper technology (what a concept).

          3. Well, NOT toilet paper 😉
            But they cut down tress on natural sanctuaries —like that of the Monarch Butterfly— to make wood.

            And that is a problem not only for Mexico; but also for the US & Canada as well. After all, the butterflies play an important role in the polination of crops in those two countries.

          4. softness
            Sure but the problem is not the softness of the toilet paper. Some environmentalists are proposing to, in effect, pass new laws that regulated such softness.

            I’m saying that the softness is not the problem in Mexico. The problem is that you don’t have laws, for practical purposes. Adding another law that people ignore won’t help much.

            And really, tree farming is centuries old, one of the best examples of a sustainable industry.

          5. trees…
            Talking about trees in Canada is useless, wether harvested for arsewipes or newpapers. Every year the trees cut by forestry companies are replaced with new treelings. Of course they will be available for harvesting in 25 years, but in Canada, if trees aren’t harvested they burn in massive forest fires. Let them burn for the sake of keeping the ecoterrorists happy, or harvest for useful purpose and replenish it just afterward on a 25 year cycle? Choice seems logical.

            Just like the seal hunt that the EU is so worked up about. Millions of them eating fish from the grand banks, which Europeans are constantly illegally fishing into, surely the equivalent of clear cutting the forests in Canada, and they give us the snub and complain about seals? Give me a freakin break.

            What about Brazil’s burning of the Amazon? What about Australia with Kangaroo meat? What about the Japanese with their illegal whaling? What about the dolphin hunts in South-America? What about shark hunts? What about (insert favorite here)?

            Can’t win…

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