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News Briefs 08-08-2007

Despite being penniless all week and having nothing to eat but bread, tzatziki dip, cheese and green tea, I’m managing to survive. Can’t wait for payday on Friday though!

Thanks Greg, Kat and Neil.

Quote of the Day:

If you drilled from Hopiland through the center of the earth, you would exit in Tibet, another sacred culture situated on a high and dry plateau. Certain words in the Hopi and Tibetan language have reversed meanings – for instance, the Hopi word for day, “Nyma,” is the Tibetan word for night. The word for Moon in Tibetan, “Dawa,” is the Hopi word for Sun.

Daniel Pinchbeck, “2012: The Return of Quetzelcoatl” page 382 (Amazon US or UK)

  1. chinese arrogance
    It really should come as no wonder that the chinese are claiming to take control of the tulkus’ reincarnations. They have also claimed to be able to control the weather and seed clouds to ensue the air in Beijing will be clean enough for the athletes that will participate in the Olympic games of 2008!

    I just pray the chinese do not make the same mistakes of using violence to repress the manifestations that are bound to happen during the games. It would be like Mexico 68 all over again.

    Now, getting back to Tibet, I admit I’m not really that pro-tibetan as some people are; in the sense I believe the repression the tibetan people are suffering right now comes from their continuous fear to open their borders to foreign people and new ideas. Closing your borders and limiting access to information is a time-prooved recipe for disaster. Also, we have to be mindful that the tibetan government before the chinese invasion was a theocratic state, and its society was terribly stratified.

    But that doesn’t give Beijing the right to deny the tibetans full access to their culture, and to let them choose their beliefs.

    I suppose in the end we will witness, after the dead of the current Dalai Lama, a clear an total division between the tibetan buddhism now in exile, and the religion that will be mantained in Tibet but will refuse to disappear as Beijing foolishly hopes. And it will not surprise one bit if the new reincarnation of the Dalai is found in a western nation (like in the movie Little Budha).

    —–
    It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
    It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

    Red Pill Junkie

    1. Cloud-seeding in China
      Just to clear something up…

      Quote: “It really should come as no wonder that the chinese are claiming to take control of the tulkus’ reincarnations. They have also claimed to be able to control the weather and seed clouds to ensue the air in Beijing will be clean enough for the athletes that will participate in the Olympic games of 2008!”

      I live in Beijing, and can assure you that cloud-seeding is standard prectice here. Read these articles on the topic, from 3 and 1 years ago:

      http://www.china.org.cn/english/China/102176.htm

      http://www.abc.net.au/correspondents/content/2006/s1654067.htm

      The timing of heavy, smog-clearing rainfalls (e.g. just before the Olympic Committee visited the other week) leaves neither myself nor anyone else I know here in doubt that cloud-seeding technology is real and in use in China. I even read a news article a year or 2 ago where 2 neighbouring provinces were complaining that Hebei (which surrounds Beijing municipality) had taken and used most of their designated rain-producing rockets for the previous year!

  2. Hopi-Tibetan connection
    Although I like Daniel Pinchbeck’s work, this misinformation has been floating around the Internet for quite a few years. It is wrong for a couple reasons.

    (1) Hopiland in Arizona is located at about 35 degrees north latitude and 110 degrees west longitude. Lhasa, Tibet is located at nearly 30 degrees north latitude and about 90 degrees east longitude. So I guess it depends on how straight you drill through the Earth. (It is more significant to note that Lhasa and Cairo are on the exact same latitude.)

    (2) It would be nice if these linguistic reversals would work, but in reality they don’t.

    Hopi word

    sun = tawa (or, yes, Dawa)
    moon = muya
    day = tala (not Nyma)
    night = mihik

    Tibetan word

    sun = nyi ma
    moon = zla ba
    day = nyin gang
    night = mtshan

    I am trying to find correspondences here but having a rough time of it. Caveat lector!

    Gary A. David
    http://www.theorionzone.com

    1. Thanks Gary!
      Thanks Gary! I knew I should have emailed you first. 😉

      One linguistic tale that isn’t internet hearsay is the connections between Shang Dynasty and Mayan language. Ki — ik. Ko — ok. Both have the exact meaning. There are many more examples.

      1. Greek & Nahuatl
        The greek word Theos & the nahuatl word Teo have also the same meaning: God.

        —–
        It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
        It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

        Red Pill Junkie

      2. archaeo-linguistics
        Rick, I do believe that is valid. Not only language but common artifacts abounded. But ancient people saw language in its endless wordplays and variations as sacred. For instance, the ancient Egyptian word for ‘soul’ is ba. Its anagram ab means ‘heart’.

        Gary David
        http://www.theorionzone.com

  3. Hopiland, Tibet and Egypt
    Gary is quite correct that the present day words of Hopi and Tibetan for day and night/sun and moon are not opposite. More to the point is that people of both cultures make this assertion. If, as they also assert, that they lived together at one time and then separated (along with the other two races), and one accepts their estimates of around 35,000 years, lingusitic drift could account for this.

    One of the more complete and concise versions of the comparisons is in the talk by Lee Brown in 1986:

    http://www.welcomehome.org/rainbow/prophecy/hopi2.html

    As to the note that Cairo is more in line more directly opposite, the link between ancient Native Americans, Tibetans and Egyptians was published 98 years ago, ostensibly related by a Smithsonian archeologist who made the discovery:

    http://www.ausbcomp.com/redman/clamor7.htm#ant_people

    I know of no follow up to the latter. I do know of that others have made some of the same claims as Lee Brown does in the former, such as Frank Waters’ writings taken from his conversations with Hopi elders.

    I’m trying to recall who it was that originally made the claim that Hopi elders immediately recognized and translated the Nazca images when shown an areal photograph. I believe it was Waters, though he may have been repeating it. If anyone knows of the source, please relate it.

    No, I am not the brain specialist…..
    YES. Yes I AM the brain specialist.

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