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News Briefs 10-12-2004

The news today will be history tomorrow. Get it while it’s hot.

  • A spectacular new discovery from an ongoing excavation at the Teotihuacan’s Pyramid of the Moon is revealing a grisly sacrificial burial.
  • A group of Danish scientists is pondering the authenticity of a 600-year-old Viking map.
  • A prominent Indonesian paleoanthropologist has stolen the remains of Homo floresiensis and refuses to allow the scientists who discovered the remains to study them.
  • The discovery of the garments worn by an ancient ice maiden unlocks some surprises.
  • An Egyptian archaeological team has discovered a group of 20 gold-coated mummies in the country’s western desert. No mention Of Zahi? Heads will roll.
  • Iranian women are not even allowed to watch men compete on the soccer field today, but a 2,000-years ago an Iranian woman was carving the boys to pieces on the battlefield.
  • Hasn’t it been more than three weeks since we discovered Atlantis off Cypress? Atlantis has now been found in Tampa Bay, Florida. An on-line book is available that explains it all.
  • A Greek doctor has come up with a new theory to explain the mysterious death of the ancient world conqueror Alexander the Great.
  • Despite the $21.3-billion Food-for-Oil scam that was supposed to feed hungry Iraqi children, the United States is supporting Kofi Annan.
  • A floral foul-up has left a city street lined with swastika shapes in a week of major Jewish celebrations.
  • A Science Magazine essay claiming there is a ‘scientific consensus’ about human-caused ‘global warming‘ is ridiculed. Great example of poor science, but this subject seems to attract poor science. Meanwhile, Tony Blair is trying to involve the United States in a new international treaty on global warming.
  • Ancient ocean tides once spread massive icebergs from about 60,000- to 10,000-years ago. Did they make SUVs 60,000-years ago?
  • Crows as clever as Great Apes. Meanwhile, monkeys in the Brazilian forest use stones to help them forage for food on an almost daily basis.
  • Researchers has found what may be the evolutionary basis for impulsive behavior.
  • The drug lords get it. Colombian GM cocaine have yields eight times higher than normal coca plants.
  • Why men are attracted to subordinate women.
  • It’s Official: Hanks Cast In ‘Da Vinci Code’.
  • The chicken has joined the growing group of animals whose genome has been sequenced.
  • An Italian school’s substitution of a Nativity play with Little Red Riding Hood so as not to offend Muslim children has raised the ire of the Vatican. In other Xmas news, Santa Claus brought an unusual gift for some Rio schoolchildren this holiday season — a bag of marijuana.
  • Sorry Kat, not much help here for you, Bill Clinton or Billy the Kid. Left-handers remain a mystery to science.
  • If you are the victim of a burglary in the UK be passive, cooperative, and do nothing. In Texas, one should choose hollow point cartridges of sufficient caliber to avoid a big mess.
  • Iran lays claim to world’s oldest backgammon set. Double.
  • Low-pitched rumbles from deep under California’s San Andreas fault may offer a way to predict future earthquakes.
  • A British philosophy professor who has been a leading champion of atheism for more than a half-century now believes in God.
  • Deep within China near the ancient capitol of Xi’an lies a series of pyramid mounds virtually unknown outside the country.
  • Interested in what was really going on in Roswell in 1947? Peculiar Phenomena, V-2 Rockets – and UFOB Retaliation from Linda Moulton Howe. Part I and Part II.
  • Were angels photographed over the capital of the United States? With pic.
  • It is time to reconsider an invasion by hitchhiking monsters from outer space.
  • It’s not too late to join an expedition to determine if there is a Arctic opening to a hollow Earth. You’re not busy anyway.
  • Is Ol’ Sol a sun that attracts and captures alien worlds and files them beyond Neptune?
  • Pravda complains that a Russian invented the space elevator concept and he is being ripped-off.
  • Researchers claim that listening for signals from ET is futile. Send SETI to the scrap pile?
  • Mars was wet, but was it inhabited?

Thanks X_O.

Quote of the Day:

If there is anyone here whom I have not insulted, I beg his pardon.

Johannes Brahms

  1. Chinese Pyramids
    The Chinese Government did not plant trees and shrubs on the mounds to hide the location of secret military installations nearby from foreign satellites. There’s no great conspiracy.

    The trees and shrubs are yew trees. Yew trees were planted on the mounds because, a) the mounds were originally covered in yew trees, b) the yew symbolises longevity and immortality according to Chinese folklore, and c) the mounds were seriously eroding, due to locals pillaging the loam for their fields and due to normal weather erosion, so trees were planted to prevent further damage.

    I’ll be going to China next year (I hope), to research my novel which involves the Xian mounds. Maybe I’ll post a sneak peek on TDG. 😉

  2. m4rs
    (%-ge of me still finds commenting such necessary – ok c ? we can do about it)
    the planets not so glorious past tarted to shape up some 2My ago when geo-chemical generator at Coronae Scopulus N-rn edge of Hellas Planitia separated thenlake waters to its molecular substitutes causing thus H2 to escape and O2 to oxidate severe including Fe+ giving the peculiar gamma to the mars we c today … before that mars hosted small scale vegetation (not good in english plant names) … after that we had some wet – atmosphere supported regions – elysium planitia (forests) E-rn utopia planitia (ballots wet-lands) – crater on olympus mons (mixed – small scale wetland, lakes, shrubs) – some where S-hemisphere – a mud flow supported seasonal grass – plants (yellow blossoms) … after vegetation martian scorpions and their derivate the martian spiders

    1. +m4rs
      … around opportunity’s landing sites
      the pre-lost-atmosphere-mars had oceans and different orbital orientation (history of what is actually a whole chapter on itself)
      this.. Elysium shoreline was NE respective to now EW direction 425My (in the previous some 2MY should read 200My – time)
      (tarted reads started)

          1. no is most always a good reply
            think man models pc resetted bootup os load from dsd or cable what is to remember in this contexthowever if you insert a floppy + (exiting pc analogy)trail-capture random reads from mixed information space as books www farytales and successfully link those together then what you recon is what it at that time reads

          2. yes may also do
            some fundamental inf is from nde-s oobe-s related keywords also go lucid dreaming astral travel remote sensing channeling – ways to import extrasystemal information or … (some other way to say previous differently)

          3. stil did not say th-
            at incase more integral input – you get some stories told as you, onsite, as watching a VR movie, through certain characters or objects or just viewpoints point of view so if different input methods told a story of a character that closely maches you – we have a hi probability for this beeing the case.

          4. So long as you remain neutral
            If you can be exposed to what the Astral has to say and remain neutral, in other words not believe and remain aware that all functions related to the Astral have for purpose domination for which they will mix half truths with half lies, there is something interesting to be garnered there.

            At the very least, it is useful to expand on our experience with the invisible. The only important thing is to know that you can’t be lied to and that no entity can manipulate you.

    1. oil and no food
      Hi Dennis,

      >did you want comments on the UN oil for food mess?

      Sure, why not? It is now obvious why the UN didn’t want to enforce UN Security Council Resolution 1441.

      >The hollow point gun remark is typical Bill

      Hollow point bullets are less likely to ricochet, or penetrate exterior building walls, reducing the risks of collateral damage.

      I have great sympathy for those that are not allowed to protect themselves against a home invasion.

      Bill

      1. Integrity
        David Hannay, a former British ambassador to the UN;

        “No one to my knowledge has cast doubt on the personal integrity of the secretary-general. No one.”

        “We need more due process and less lynch mob.”

        Bill guess yours is more the lynchmob mentality. Your choice of links today seems to be politically coloured , i think TDG can do without such.

        1. Your choice of links today se
          Your choice of links today seems to be politically coloured , i think TDG can do without such.

          Yet you never criticise Jameske’s political links? Or do you only want to get rid of the political links you disagree with? 😉

          There’s room for all opinions (well, most of them anyway!) on TDG. If you don’t like the look of a link, skip it and move on. What you don’t like provides interest to someone else: I learnt this a long time ago on TDG.

        2. Lynch Mobs
          Hi Toxilogic,

          >Bill guess yours is more the lynchmob mentality.

          We both have choices here. I don’t need your approval of what I choose to post and you don’t need to read what I post. But if you choose to comment you really should read the linked-article. The article states that the Bush Administration is in support of the secretary-general, Kofi Annan. I made no comment on Annan’s complicity. Where’s the lynch mob mentality?

          >Your choice of links today seems to be politically coloured……

          I posted 37-links in the news today. Of the thirty-seven I would agree that two were political. The first is discussed above. The second concerned Tony Blair’s effort to involve the United States in a new international treaty on global warming. That’s not a position that I support, but I made no comment on that either.

          Bill

  3. Hi Bill
    Hi Bill, glad you’re back safe and sound after being involved in those awful Philadelphia type experiments Rico told us about.

    I quite see your point of view that we need to be able to defend ourselves in our own homes.It is a subject that has received attention here over the years.
    The UK always had a good thing going I thought, where the bobbies never carried guns, and as a result the English had the lowest murder rate in the world.
    I think the situation has changed now though.
    In Australia you are really not allowed to protect yourself in your own home as if you harm an intruder you get arrested and he sues you.
    OTOH I think if I was to shoot someone in my home with a hollow bullet I might never recover from what I had done.

    I suppose the Iraqis feel much the same way as you do, that they cannot protect themselves in their own homes.
    Well, actually I don’t think they have homes any more, so that’s one less thing for them to worry about.

    Today in the paper I saw a dirty big pic of Zahi with the golden mummies so the old so and so did manage to hog the news item after all.

    Getting back to the protecting yourself in your home item,I think we all suffer too much from fear, don’t you?
    The government tells us to be afraid so we are.

    An aboriginal family moved in next door to me and my friends told me I should be very afraid.Well I chatted to them, and they chat to me,and they are caring neighbours, worrying about my animals when they get out of my yard and returning them.
    I think it is all in the perspective.
    If I had taken my friends’ advice I would never have met these interesting people and would have lived in fear of them.

    Peace and respect,(I learned it from Greg)

    shadows

    1. Burglary and self-defense
      It is said that in a few small towns in the southern U.S. that burglary and other crimes of theft were reduced by large percentages by the town making a law that EVERY household had to own a gun. Seems sensible to a burglar to shop elsewhere where they would have much less chance of being shot during a crime.

      Most criminals are looking for an easy income, and the lack of resistance is what they hope for, making a crime more probable. To back that up, most muggings in New York City are done on senior citizens, especially older women.

      While I leave the choice of defense or cooperation to the individual, it is human nature for some to be more criminally aggressive in obtaining their wants.

      I think a good example is if your next door neighbor one night, pushes the property line a few feet into your property. If you don’t respond and correct the problem immediately, the next night you will lose another few feet, and so on until you have nothing left and must move elsewhere. Many houses have been burgled, and stores roobed a second and third time after an easy first experience by the criminal.

      Aggression has been an effective tool for many species for millions of years, and will continue until it no longer works.

      Sorry if I’m ranting, but it’s a subject I’m touchy on.

      Chris

    2. The government tells us to be
      The government tells us to be afraid so we are.

      And the Left tells us to be afraid of the Government, and the Right tells us to be afraid of the Left, and round and round we go …

      Don’t listen to the Left or the Right. Listen to balanced people who aren’t regurgitating political ideologies. 😉

      We have a right to protect ourselves in our own homes. If I had kids and I caught someone sneaking about the house, I’d call the police first and if the intruder is still around I’d pick up something heavy and spiky and take matters into my own hands. Then I’d probably be sued by the intruder, who tripped over a garden hose in my backyard and broke his ankle, and I end up having to pay him thousands of dollars in compensation. The world is nuts.

    3. Freedom
      Hi Shadows,

      From your description it sounds like your friends were trying to inspire fear, not the government. But your government did eliminate your ability to own a firearm. I recall that Rodney William Ansell, whose real life exploits inspired the Crocodile Dundee movies, was one Australian that did not agree with the policy. Ansell died in a shootout with Australian police who had come to confiscate his firearms.

      But one’s neighbors usually aren’t the problem. It’s the guy high on PCP that desperately needs money, or people that are just mean. There really are bad people in this world – there always have been. I am responsible for the persons under my roof and I find it much easier to forfeit a threat than to see any of them hurt, raped, or dead. Fortunately, the US constitution gives me the ability to protect myself.

      The majority of homeowners in the US own guns. For this reason, most home burglaries in the US occur during daylight hours when no one is home. Some states allow a traveler to carry a firearm; many states issue a concealed-carry permit. The UN spends an inordinate amount of time plotting ways to put US citizens in the same position that you are in. Terrorism is also a real threat. I foresee the day when US citizens will be shipping firearms to our friends in England just as we did prior to the US entry into WWII when the English feared an invasion.

      You have my sincere condolence that you do not share my freedom. I find it incredible that your government has made you a helpless victim. That’s why I linked the article. But if you’re happy with your present state, that’s super.

      Bill

      BTW, Iraqis are allowed to protect themselves with guns. Iraqis are permitted one AK-47 per household.

      http://www.iraqfoundation.org/news/2004/joct/18_news.htm

      1. Article II – The Right to Bear Arms
        From the U.S. Bill of Rights:

        Article II – A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

        Everyone take a moment and read that . . .let it sink in. . . .

        Did you see “You have the right to have a gun to protect your house?”

        Did you see “You have the right to have a gun to go hunting?”

        No, that’s not what you saw, in case you were thinking you did. What you saw is the Founding Fathers of the U.S.A. saying they did not trust government and that a government might one day to decide that the people shouldn’t be free, and that the only thing stopping the government from doing this is the fact that the entire population is Armed. By the letter of this article, Americans should keep MILITARY style armaments, for MILITIA. “Well Regulatated” is key here, because those are the two words gun-control nuts harp upon, but the truth is the Founding Fathers wanted private military to counter government military… Many of the Revolutionary War heros were not even official soldiers, but rather partisan citizens who took up Arms against the British.

        Protecting yourself with a gun from a home-intruder is only a pleasant by-product of this right. Although I hate Bush with a pasion, he does stand by Article II of the Bill of Rights. (As he erodes the others like Article I, Article IV, Article V, Article VI, Article VIII, and Article X, all of which are under siege by the current administration. I encourage each and every one of you Americans here to look up what these Articles are, so you can see what REALLY IMPORTANT rights you are losing.

        Peace, but not when someone’s trying to hurt you!

        AncientSkyman

        The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.

        George Bernard Shaw

        1. Article II – The Right to Bear Arms
          Hi AncientSkyMan,

          You are correct in what you say about the Second Amendment. I was limiting my response to self-protection because that is what the article was about.

          Bill

          1. I knew you knew . . .
            Righty-O Bill,

            I’m sure you can recite this article by heart, it’s just most of the TDG’er who don’t live in America don’t know the crux of this issue. More for the masses than for you Bill.

            Peace,

            ASM

      2. Freedom to Commit Murder
        Hi Bill,

        Let us compare two cities, Glasgow in the UK and San Antonio, Texas, USA. In the year that I arrived in the latter, 2001, there were 113 homicides in San Antonio. Greater Glasgow (we have a slightly different method in the UK and Greater Glasgow is basically the whole conurbation) has about the same population of just around 1,1 million. Number of homicides in the same year? Only 23.

        The vast majority of the murders in San Antonio were with guns. Yet I would class Glasgow as by far the more violent city, overall. The difference is that without a gun it is simply more difficult to kill someone. It takes a different level of nastiness to kill someone up close and personal as opposed to standing many feet away and hosing the area with bullets.

        On a sidenote, I noticed that the NRA’s view on the recent killing of several hunters by another hunter is to say that since the murderer out-firepowered the victims (he had an AK47, they had bolt action rifles) it just proves that everyone should have an assault rifle.

        Guns don’t kill people, idiots with guns kill people.

        Regards, C

        1. Facts on Gun Crime
          Hi again,

          Lets look at some cold hard figures, courtesy of the BBC.

          Scotland, population 6 million, had 108 murders in 2003. Only two of those murders involved guns and gun crime as a whole was down 10%, however “A firearm was discharged in 70% of all cases where one was used”.

          London (pop. 6 million) also had a drop in gun use during crimes, down 7.4%. London still has a murder rate one third that of New York and Brooklyn has more murders than all of London. Burglaries are down 7.1%.

          Brazil suffered 40,000 deaths due to gun related crimes in 2003. Their response was a massive gun ban.

          The simple truth is that Tony Blair is banging the “safety at home” drum to increase a sense of fear amongst the populace, and so that in the run up to the next election he can claim to be tough on crime, an area which has traditionally been the happy hunting ground of the right-wing opposition Conservative Party. (Yeah, Britain supposedly has a left wing socialist government – amazing, huh?)

          No doubt there have been some miscarriages of justice involving homeowners defending themselves and their property but these could be dealt with by issuing new guidelines to judges and without further legislation.

          Regards, C

          PS: If guns don’t kill people, maybe its bullets that kill people. Guns without bullets are just fancy clubs. Lets see what happens when the gun-nuts are restricted to just shouting “bang”.

          PPS If you wonder why this issue gets to me – I was in Dunblane in 1996 visiting a friend when the news of a massacre of schoolkids by one lone nut with a gun swept over the town. The experience will never leave me.

          1. Stuff
            Hi Cernig,

            Washington DC has the strictest gun-control policy in the US and the highest murder-rate in the world.

            I can see that this issue upsets you, but I haven’t quite figured-out what your point is.

            Bill

          2. The Point
            Hi Bill,

            The point is that the whole story is being hyped by Blair and Co as a method of defusing criticism of their version of the Patriot Act. Britons are actually getting safer in their homes compared with the last 2 decades.The article you cited was only written because the Government intends new legislation changing the law’s view on assault while protecting your property – which will literally allow some to get away with murder. They are including this along with other measures on surveilance, ID cards etc because to push through the other measures they need to foster a climate of fear. Legislation is not needed, all they need to do is tell the judges (via the Attorney General and the Law Lords) to take a more lenient view of “assault” by homeowners against intruders – something that is well provided for in the British legal system. Its a bogus story made up out of whole cloth for political ends.

            I also wanted to answer your comment that “I foresee the day when US citizens will be shipping firearms to our friends in England just as we did prior to the US entry into WWII when the English feared an invasion…You have my sincere condolence that you do not share my freedom. I find it incredible that your government has made you a helpless victim. That’s why I linked the article. But if you’re happy with your present state, that’s super”. Opinion is one thing, opinion backed by facts is another. If you want to be safer, send all your guns to Britain where they will be destroyed. Of course Brits are happy with their present stae, and the facts show why. 1007 murders total in the UK last year, in a country with a population one fourth that of the US which had over 14,000 murders.

            As for Washington – maybe they need a stricter gun control policy. Like “ban them all”.

            Regards, C

          3. ban them all
            Hi Cernig,

            >Like “ban them all”.

            It’s already in-place. That is the gun control policy in Washington DC. So far it’s not working-out very well.

            Bill

          4. English Bobby
            Hi Cernig,
            Great post.You are right about Dunblane, it was one lone nut.
            The same as in Port Arthur, another lone nut, and in both cases people who should have been looked at for their behaviour.

            Here, however, is a quote I picked up many years ago from an old book, and I think it explains the British attitude a little.Maybe from all those years of Empire they did not feel the need to take up arms at home.

            “Nell and I like the London Bobbies very much;they are a highly efficient body of men who wear chin straps and never allow a murderer to escape.
            Murder is rare in England and an unsolved murder is rarer.The low rate of homicide is due to the fact that the British never get well enough acquainted to kill each other.
            Once in a while a foreigner kills an Englishman for being too reticent, but if you see and Englishman murdering another Englishman, you can be pretty sure the victim is either a blood relative or a friend of long standing”.

            Frank Sullivan from Sullivan at Bay.

            shadows

  4. guns
    Hi everyone in the debate,
    I was lying in bed in the wee hours pondering on why I hate guns so much and I decided that when you use a gun to kill, +you are killing by proxy.
    When man fought another man or killed a beast for food he used to do it up close and personal.
    Even a bow and arrow is a more personal way of killing.You make the equipment and it is your skill that determines the outcome.
    Guns, however, require none of that.
    You go to a shop and buy a gun and bullets and without any skill at all, you can then kill someone.
    When a father teaches his son to hunt what is he teaching him, with a gun that is.
    They shoot an animal that is usually standing still and they do it from a position where they cannot be seen or heard.There is no hands on, no face to face.
    Just a high powered bullet coming from a gun usually with telescopic sights that kills an animal a long way away.
    I think the closest I could get to this with men killing would be snipers in war.
    They don’t face their target up close,it is like a shooting gallery.
    Guns have reduced people to targets in a shooting gallery.
    The most far-removed of all are those who push buttons from planes.
    There is no realisation of the chaos and destruction they have caused below them on the ground.
    In many cases, those pushing buttons have gone home later and broken down with the horror of what they have done.

    Here’s an example of what I mean.

    My dear beautiful dog, a combination species, was bitten by a huge taipan while attempting to save me.
    The anti-venom did not work with such a big snake,and I faced the obvious after a day that I would have to put her down.
    I mixed a lethal cocktail and syringed it down her throat, between her teeth, as with each seizure she had she attempted to bite me.
    After 10 minutes the seizures stopped and I put her big shiny black head on my lap.
    She licked me and looked at me with such love before she passed away in my arms.
    Had a neighbour shot her as he wanted to, we would not have had those last moments together.
    BTW the vet had gone away for the weekend.

    When the military has finally developed weaponry that require little or no human involvement, we will have reached the nadir of civilisation.
    Whilever you can look a person or animal in the eye as you take their life you may give some meaning to what you do.

    shadows

  5. Wrong…Just wrong…Teotihaucan
    “With the excavation of the pyramid nearly complete, one important conclusion is emerging: combined with past burials at the site, the new find strongly suggests that the Pyramid of the Moon was significant to the Teotihuacano people as a site for celebrating state power through ceremony and sacrifice. Contrary to some past interpretation, militarism was apparently central to the city’s culture.”

    Those who destroyed Teotihuacan might have been the Militant ones who killed the leadership and destroyed the whole place eventually. It was then covered with four feet of dirt…the whole place.

    O.

  6. Left Handers
    Despite popular dime store novel myth, Billy the Kid was not left handed. The only known photograph of the Kid shows him posing with his Henry rifle and pistols. The process produces a final picture in reverse. Details on the rifle confirm that the image is backward.

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