Beyond the Apocalypse

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Beyond the Apocalypse: Myths and Legends Concerning the Georgia Guidestones

By Greg Taylor

Silently surveying the rural lands surrounding them, the giant stones impose themselves upon the grassy landscape. Raised by human hands, but dwarfing any man, they are neatly aligned to various celestial phenomena, such as the rising and setting of the Sun at the Solstices and the hitching post of the heavens, the North Star Polaris. Their designers are unknown; they remain a mystery to us – but the Stones give voice to their inner thoughts. Some see in their construction a guiding wisdom for humanity, whilst others feel threatened by the overt pagan overtones and, paradoxically, stark scientific simplicity, of the megaliths and their message.

Far from being the work of an ancient people though, this monument was raised just three decades ago by a group of stonemasons – in the literal sense of the word – from the South of the United States of America. Unlike that other famous megalithic site, Stonehenge, we know exactly how the stones were quarried, how they were finished, and then assembled into one interlocking marvel. And yet, the Georgia Guidestones remain a modern mystery.

Their story begins with the arrival of a neatly-dressed gray-haired gentleman at Elberton Granite Finishing Company on a Friday afternoon in June, 1979. He introduced himself as one ‘R.C. Christian’, acting on behalf of “a small group of loyal Americans who believe in God”, and who wanted to “leave a message for future generations.” Joe Fendley, president of the Georgian stone-working company, listened to the man outline the specifications of the monument that he and his small group were seeking. Christian explained that they had chosen Elberton due to its stocks of hard-wearing granite – a key element of the design was that the monument should be able to withstand both the slow erosion of time as well as possible catastrophic events. The monument was to serve as a compass, calendar, and clock, with celestial alignments which would encode the passing of time itself. And it would be engraved with a set of ’10 commandments’, written multiple times in eight of the world’s major languages.

Given the dimensions of the desired construction, Fendley made some notes, consulted his calculator, and offered a rough – and sizeable – quote to Mr Christian for the price of construction. The figure didn’t seem to bother the enigmatic man though. He simply asked Fendley for assistance in locating a nearby bank through which to deliver the funding:

Some 30-minutes or so after leaving Fendley’s office, Christian appeared at the office of Granite City Bank president Wyatt C. Martin. After introducing himself to Mr Martin in the same manner in which he did to Fendley, he revealed his mission and desire to have a monument erected.

Christian told Martin that he represented a group of individuals who had planned this project for more than 20 years, and that each one of the group was a loyal American who believed in God and country.

He said the group of sponsors wished to remain anonymous and went on to say that his real name was not Robert C. Christian as he had introduced himself, but this was simply a name chosen because of his Christian faith.

This explanation sounds a little suspicious – the name, and the philosophy of the group, suggest the name is more likely inspired by the famous Rosicrucians – the Brotherhood of the Rosy Cross. But more on that soon. For now, it’s worth pointing out that Mr. Christian’s explanation for the need for secrecy was that the group did not want to distract people from the monument or its meaning. More precisely...

The message, to be inscribed on the stones, is to all mankind and is non-sectarian, nor nationalistic, nor in any sense political. The stones must speak for themselves to all who take note and should appeal to believers and non-believers , wherever. and at all times.

Again, it seems a little odd that a man who introduces himself as being a ‘loyal American’, who “believed in God and country”, should then say it is necessary that the monument be non-sectarian and not nationalistic. Perhaps though this presentation as being a loyal, Christian American was meant more to assuage any fears or hesitancy on the part of his new collaborators. He was looking to raise an odd monument – replete with strange ‘commandments’ on how future generations should maintain their society, and with references to that “dirty little Atheist”, Thomas Paine – in the ‘Deep South’, after all.

Wyatt Martin wasn’t born yesterday however, and informed Mr. Christian that “a pseudo-name and a promise of money for a project of this magnitude just was not enough.” The mysterious man was thus forced to swear the banker to secrecy, before providing his real name and enough information for the project to progress financially. Martin remains the only man alive – outside of the secret group – who knows the true identity of ‘Robert C. Christian’.

Christian returned several days later with a wooden model of the intended structure, and a message from the group:

Stonehenge and other vestiges of human thought arouse our curiosity but carry no message for our guidance. To convey our ideas across time to other human beings we want to erect a monument. A cluster of graven stones...which will silently display our ideas when we have gone. We hope they will merit increasing acceptance and that through their silent persistence they will hasten in a small degree the coming Age of Reason.

On this visit Christian also raised the matter of where the monument would be located. He said that Georgia had been chosen not just for its granite supplies, but also on account of its mild climate (to insure the permanence of the stoneworking), and distance from major tourist centers. With Wyatt Martin’s assistance, he located a five-acre plot of land some eight miles north of Elberton, on the farm of Mildred and Wayne Mullenix. Standing atop an unwooded ridge in the middle of cow pastures, the site is the highest point in Elbert County and offers excellent visibility in all directions. With its prominent location, the monument itself can be seen from several miles away. In a happy coincidence (or was it?), the site is also less than 10 miles from Ah-Yeh-Li A-Lo-Hee, the Cherokee “Center of the World”.

Money for the project arrived from different banks across the country, as did all future correspondence from Christian. According to Wyatt Martin, this was yet another measure to protect R.C. Christian’s real identity, The Georgia Guidestones“because he wanted to make sure it couldn’t be traced... He made it clear that he was very serious about secrecy.”

After nine months of intense work on the part of Elberton Granite and Finishing, the Georgia Guidestones were unveiled to a crowd of 400 people on March 22, 1980. The main structure of this impressive site is composed of four massive granite monoliths, each weighing around 20 tons, and a 9-ton central pillar, all of which support the square 11-ton ‘capstone’. The completed monument stands some 19 feet (just under 6 meters) high. Perhaps taking a lesson from the discovery of the Rosetta Stone (an inscription in multiple languages which facilitated the decoding of the Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs), the four Pyramid-Blue granite side-slabs are etched with 4000 individual characters, which present the ‘guide’ in eight different languages. The central support pillar features a ‘mail-slot’ through which observers can see the alignments to the rising sun on the equinoxes and solstices, while another angled hole drilled right through this center stone allows a person on the southern side of the monument to look through and see the North Star, Polaris, which sits almost directly at the North celestial pole. Meanwhile, a 7/8 inch hole in the capstone allows the light from the Sun to pinpoint the day of the year at noon of every day on the central column. The four side-slabs are oriented to the limits of the migration of the moon during the course of the year.

The eight languages which present the guide to future humanity are English, Chinese, Russian, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, and Arabic. The ten instructions etched into the stones are:

  • Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature;
  • Guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity
  • Unite humanity with a living new language;
  • Rule passion, faith, tradition, and all things with tempered reason;
  • Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts;
  • Let all nations rule internally, resolving external disputes in a world court;
  • Avoid petty laws and useless officials;
  • Balance personal rights with social duties;
  • Prize truth, beauty, love...seeking harmony with the infinite;
  • Be not a cancer on earth – leave room for nature – leave room for nature.

In addition, the capstone has the words “Let These Be Guidestones to an Age of Reason” inscribed upon it in four ancient scripts: Egyptian hieroglyphs, Babylonian cuneiform, Classical Greek, and Sanskrit.

A Work of Satan

But with mystery and secrecy comes fear. Not all in the local area were happy with the project, perhaps confirming why R.C. Christian was so quick to announce his patriotic and religious nature. Local Christians in particular feared that the newly-constructed megaliths would become a ‘sacred site’ to heathens and occultists:

The first rumor began among members of the Elberton Granite Association, jealous of the attention being showered on one of their own: Fendley was behind the whole thing, they said, aided by his friend Martin, the banker. The gossip became so poisonous that the two men agreed to take a lie detector test at the Elberton Civic Center. The scandal withered when The Elberton Star reported that they had both passed convincingly, but the publicity brought a new wave of complaints. As word of what was being inscribed spread, Martin recalls, even people he considered friends asked him why he was doing the devil’s work. A local minister, James Travenstead, predicted that “occult groups” would flock to the Guidestones, warning that “someday a sacrifice will take place here.”

Some pounced on the date of the unveiling – March 22 – as confirmation that the Guidestones were the work of the devil. Christian pundits were quick to associate the date with various ancient pagan rites, as well as those of Wicca – seemingly oblivious that the date marks the Spring Equinox, one of the key alignments of the monument, and the original reason why these rites occur on that date.

But if the seemingly pagan nature of the monument was a concern, the instructions themselves induced near panic in various segments of the local, and national, community. Those who see conspiracy everywhere jumped on the first instruction, which suggests maintaining the world population at 500 million. As one hysterical author wrote, “To bring the population to this level means that nine tenths of the earth’s population must die!” Or in the words of another Christian writer, “that kind of sounds like the mass extermination of the earth’s population during the time of tribulation.”

More recently activism against the Georgia Guidestones has become more fervent, with critics banding together to call for their destruction. A 2009 feature on the monument in Wired Magazine pointed out...

...Among them is an activist named Mark Dice, author of a book called The Resistance Manifesto. In 2005, Dice (who was using a pseudonym of his own — ”John Conner” — appropriated from the Terminator franchise’s main character) began to demand that the Guidestones be “smashed into a million pieces.” He claims that the monument has “a deep Satanic origin,” a stance that has earned him plenty of coverage, both in print and on the Web. According to Dice, Christian was a high-ranking member of “a Luciferian secret society” at the forefront of the New World Order. “The elite are planning to develop successful life-extension technology in the next few decades that will nearly stop the aging process,” Dice says, “and they fear that with the current population of Earth so high, the masses will be using resources that the elite want for themselves. The Guidestones are the New World Order’s Ten Commandments. They’re also a way for the elite to get a laugh at the expense of the uninformed masses, as their agenda stands as clear as day and the zombies don’t even notice it.”

In the past year vandals have spray-painted messages across the inscriptions, and splashed the slabs with polyurethane, which makes cleaning the graffiti a difficult proposition. Messages on Internet forums suggest a petition to have them destroyed, and even debate whether it would be illegal to take it upon themselves to do the destroying. Like Dice, they see the Guidestones as the calling card of the Illuminati, the New World Order, and/or various other groups intent on controlling the world’s population. Though why some shadowy group intent on killing off 90% of the world’s population would announce their plans on a monument in rural Georgia is beyond me...

The R.C. Brothers

At least the conspiracy theorists might have one thing right. The messages from R.C. Christian and his secret group certainly evoke the philosophy behind a number of secret societies of the 17th and 18th centuries, including the earliest incarnations of Freemasonry and the Illuminati. Arising out of the ‘Rosicrucian’ tradition, these secret societies had at their heart an embracing of the use of reason to guide humanity forward, with an ultimate goal of a ‘brotherhood of man’, a Pan-Sophist Utopia in which people around the world united in a peaceful quest for knowledge.

The public announcement of this goal came in the Rosicrucian manifestos, which circulated in the early 17th century and inspired many leading thinkers to join this ‘quest’. Francis Bacon’s New Atlantis followed in 1627, with its tale of a group known as ‘Salomon’s House’, an order of priest-scientists who pursued research into all the arts and sciences in order to benefit humanity. With officials wearing turbans decorated with “a red cross on the top”, it is easy to see Bacon’s affiliation – no matter whether official or self-announced. In the words of the great Renaissance scholar, Dame Frances Yates:

The religion of New Atlantis has much in common with that of the Rosicrucian manifestos. It is intensely Christian in spirit, though not doctrinal, interpreting the Christian spirit in terms of practical benevolence, like the R.C. Brothers... The inhabitants of New Atlantis would appear to have achieved the great instauration of learning and have therefore returned to the state of Adam in Paradise before the Fall – the objective of advancement both for Bacon and for the authors of the Rosicrucian manifestos.

Given the secrecy of R.C. Christian and his group, and the fear and loathing it has engendered in certain quarters, it is perhaps worth noting that Yates points out the effect of the ‘invisibility’ of the Brothers in Bacon’s Rosicrucian parable. “[T]he travellers wonder whether they are not in the presence of divine powers and beings, whether the invisibility of the Brothers (whom we now know to have been R.C. Brothers) may not have in it something supernatural,” says Yates. “[T]he New Atlantis is poised on a knife edge, depending for its favourable reception by the reader on whether that reader accepts the scientific influences in it as ‘almost magical’, or as diabolically inspired.”

Following this Rosy thread, we next spy the beginnings of the ‘Invisible College’, later to become that great bastion of scientific thinking and rationalism, the Royal Society. The Scottish chemist Robert Boyle mentions this group in a letter dated February 1647, describing its members as “men of so capacious and searching spirits... [who] endeavour to put narrow-mindedness out of countenance, by the practice of so extensive a charity that it reaches unto everything called man, and nothing less than an universal good-will can content it... [taking] the whole body of mankind to their care.” Later members of the Invisible College/Royal Society would include some of the greatest scientific minds of the last four centuries. Esoteric scholar Manly P. Hall claims that the Rosicrucian tradition was simply the latest incarnation of a movement that was over three millennia old. “For more than three thousand years,” announces Hall, “secret societies have labored to create the background of knowledge necessary to the establishment of an enlightened democracy among the nations of the world.” Hall says the global, collective name of these secret societies is “The Order of the Quest”.

In any case, when Freemasonry emerged into the public consciousness in the 18th century, bringing with it a large dose of the Rosicrucian ethos, we finally see the full flowering (pardon the pun) of the seeds planted by the Rosicrucian manifestos. Numerous founders of the United States of America would be initiated into Freemasonry, including Benjamin Franklin, George Washington and Paul Revere. Others, if not actually Masons, were certainly aligned in their thinking, such as Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine. And with Paine we come full circle, remembering that the message of the Georgia Guidestones is to lead future humanity toward a ‘New Age of Reason’.

A Record in Stone

It is in the myths of the Freemasons that we find a curious ancient echo of the Georgia Guidestones. Or perhaps, more correctly, the blueprint – for in some of the Masonic legends we find the construction of stone monuments in order to transmit knowledge to a post-apocalyptic world. For example, in one tale the Biblical prophet Enoch is moved to create a lasting monument, inscribed with hieroglyphs, to ensure that certain secret knowledge is not lost:

The degeneracy of mankind became so great , and their perversions of pure antediluvian Masonry so grievous, that, according to our traditions, Enoch feared the genuine secrets would be lost, and swallowed up in the predicted Deluge. To prevent which he hid the Grand Secret, engraven on a white oriental porphyry stone, in the bowels of the Earth; and being apprehensive that the morality and science which had been embodied in Freemasonry with such care would be absorbed in the general destruction; to preserve the principles of the science, he built two pillars near the spot where they were concealed, with an inscription in hieroglyphs, importing that near it was a precious treasure which had been dedicated to God.

Arturo de Hoyos, Grand Archivist for the Scottish Rite Southern Jurisdiction, suggests another possible source for the myths of the Royal Arch degree:

The writings of Flavius Josephus may also have contributed to the Masonic tradition. In his Antiquities of the Jews (Book I, Chap. II, vs. 3), he mentions that Seth, the son of Adam “made two pillars; the one of brick, the other of stone: they inscribed their discoveries on them both, that in case the pillar of brick should be destroyed by the flood, the pillar of stone might remain, and exhibit those discoveries to mankind; and also to inform them that there was another pillar of brick erected by them.”

Graham Hancock discusses Josephus’ recounting of this myth in his seminal book Fingerprints of the Gods, adding details which further correspond with the Georgia Guidestones. Given the plethora of astronomical alignments incorporated into the Guidestones, it’s worth noting that these antediluvian people were said by Josephus to be “the inventors of that particular sort of wisdom which is concerned with the heavenly bodies, and their order.” Hancock goes on to point out that similar myths of knowledge transmission through world-ending events can be found around the world. In the Indian Puranas, the fish god Vishnu warns his human protégé shortly before the Great Flood that “he should conceal the Sacred Scriptures in a safe place” to protect it from the impending disaster. In Mesopotamia’s version of the Deluge, the god Ea tells Utnapishtim “to take the beginning, the middle and the end of whatever was consigned to writing and then bury it in the City of the Sun at Sippara,” in order that the survivors of the Great Flood could return and search for the writings.

Perhaps most notable is the account of Oxford astronomer John Greaves, who collected local Egyptian myths when visiting the land of the pyramids in the 17th century. According to some local traditions, the three Giza pyramids were said to have been constructed by an antediluvian king, who dreamt that “the whole earth was turned over, with the inhabitants lying upon their faces and the stars falling down and striking one another with a terrible noise”:

And he awakened with great feare, and assembled the chief priests of all the provinces of Egypt...He related the whole matter to them and they took the altitude of the stars, and made their prognostication, and they foretold of a deluge. The king said, will it come to our country? They answered yes, and will destroy it. And there remained a certain number of years to come, and he commanded in the mean space to build the Pyramids...And he engraved in those Pyramids all things that were told by wise men, as also all profound sciences – the science of Astrology, and of Arithmeticke, and of Geometry, and of Physicke. All this may be interpreted by him that knows their characters and language.

While investigation of the Giza pyramids has turned up very little ‘engraving’ – in fact, engraving of any sort is conspicuous by its absence on these imposing structures – certain knowledge is certainly ‘encoded’ and ready to be interpreted. The main passage descending into the Great Pyramid on its northern face is aimed directly into the firmament at the ‘imperishable’ polar stars, just as the Georgia Guidestones are now locked onto Polaris through the hole in its central pillar. And, through design or coincidence, the monument also encodes the values of pi and phi, in the slope of the pyramids sides and the dimensions of the ‘King’s Chamber’ respectively. Certainly, we can at least give Greaves the ‘astrology’ and ‘geometry’ parts of his statement.

Maintain Humanity...

These myths about the purpose of stone monuments show that, far from being a New World Order directive to kill off 90% of the population of the planet, the Georgia Guidestones are actually meant as an instruction manual for the small band of survivors of some future cataclysm. What form the designers of the monument thought that cataclysm would take is unknown, though given the era it was built in one can assume that fears of a global nuclear war would have been a contributing factor (and perhaps offers an answer as to why it was built away from large population centers). We do know for a fact though that population increase and irrational leadership were at the forefront of the group’s concerns, which might likely lead to some sort of Third World War. According to a statement by the monument’s designers...

...The group consciousness of our race is blind, perverse, and easily distracted by trivia while it should be focused on fundamentals. We are entering a critical era. Population pressures will soon create political and economic crisis throughout the world. These will make more difficult and at the same time more needed the building of a rational world society.

...The approaching crisis may make mankind willing to accept a system of world law which will stress the responsibility of individual nations in regulating internal affairs, and which will assist them in the peaceful management of international frictions. With such a system we could eliminate war. We could provide every person an opportunity to seek a life of purpose and fulfillment.

There are alternatives to Armageddon. They are attainable. But they will not happen without coordinated efforts by millions of dedicated people in all nations of the world.

In truth, the controversial aspect of the inscription on the Georgia Guidestones is not the figure of 500 million, as the more zany conspiracy theorists would have it. As we’ve seen, there is little doubt that this is meant as a guide to a small group of survivors of some future disaster. The more provocative part of the inscription is the word “maintaining” – and the group are quite clear in their intended meaning on this point:

In 1980, as these stones were being raised, the most pressing world problem was the need to control human numbers...controlling our reproduction is urgently needed. It will require major changes in our attitudes and customs.

...In these circumstances, reproduction is no longer exclusively a personal matter. Society must have a voice and some power of direction in regulating this vital function. The wishes of human couples are important, but not paramount.

The interests of present society and the welfare of future generations must be given increasing consideration as we develop mechanisms to bring rational control to our childbearing. No person should be brought into the world unwanted and unneeded. No child should be conceived through carelessness. If each life is to have value, every conception must be part of an ordered plan of two parents who are aware of their responsibilities to that child and to society.

...Knowledge and techniques for regulating human reproduction are now in existence.

Between those words, and the eugenic-sounding instruction to improve “fitness and diversity” in reproduction, the message of the Guidestones starts sounding, rather unfortunately, like a Chinese remake of Gattaca. To be sure, the end goal is ultimately sane, and some of the sentiments – such as having no unwanted children – are laudable, but would it justify the means? I have a sneaking suspicion that very few Western individuals would allow the government to dictate their right to have children. At least, very few pre-apocalyptic individuals...

But the message from the group acknowledges exactly that, impressing that population control would “require major changes in our attitudes and customs”. It is just that they, in 1980, saw an impending population emergency. And it has to be said that time – even worse, a very short amount of time – has proven their concerns to be justified. When the Georgia Guidestones were planned and built, just three decades ago, the world population was estimated at 3.5 billion people. As of August 2009, that number has almost doubled to 6.8 billion. That sort of increase is the very definition of unsustainable. So the question should perhaps simply be framed as – are we more likely to change our customs, or rush headlong into apocalypse? Perhaps the fact that the group actually decided to build the Georgia Guidestones as a lasting guide gives us an answer...

Message in a Granite Bottle

It’s amusing (if you’re open to black humor) to note that Graham Hancock, in the conclusion to his bestselling book Fingerprints of the Gods, asks what we might do if faced with impending doom. “Of course there would at first be much panic and despair,” writes Hancock. “Nevertheless – if there were sufficient advance warning – steps would be taken to ensure that there would be some survivors and that some of what was most valuable in our high scientific knowledge would be preserved for the benefit of future generations.” He suggests that the survivors might be “blasted back into the Stone Age”, so a priority would be finding a way to communicate with them and make sure they got the message “no matter what language they spoke”. Amusing, because the creators of the Georgia Guidestones have done exactly that. In the same vein as the myths concerning a lost antediluvian civilization, they have inscribed messages upon granite stones, in order to pass on the ‘wisdom’ of our own time to future survivors of some cataclysm that is yet to occur. Whether you agree with the inscribed wisdom may be another thing, but it is hard to not be impressed with the forward-thinking behind this massive message in a bottle. Not least when we look at how most of our knowledge is currently encoded – as bits of information, stored on magnetic disks, requiring electricity to access it.

However, in terms of forward thinking to preserve knowledge for future generations, the Georgia Guidestones do not stand alone. For instance, the Rosetta Project is a modern attempt to archive all of the world’s documented languages. As one aspect of their commitment to preserving this knowledge, members of the Rosetta Project have created the ‘Rosetta Disk’. Made of nickel, and just 2.8 inches in diameter, the disk is meant to be a “durable archive of human languages”.

The Disk surface...is etched with a central image of the earth and a message written in eight major world languages: “Languages of the World: This is an archive of over 1,500 human languages assembled in the year 02008 C.E. Magnify 1,000 times to find over 13,000 pages of language documentation.” The text begins at eye-readable scale and spirals down to nano-scale. This tapered ring of languages is intended to maximize the number of people that will be able to read something immediately upon picking up the Disk, as well as implying the directions for using it—‘get a magnifier and there is more.’

On the reverse side of the disk from the globe graphic are over 13,000 microetched pages of language documentation. Since each page is a physical rather than digital image, there is no platform or format dependency. Reading the Disk requires only optical magnification.

The disk is “immune to water damage, able to withstand high temperatures, and unaffected by electromagnetic radiation.” And the disk is housed, and protected, within a four inch spherical which is split into two hemispheres. The bottom is made of high-grade stainless steel, while the top is made of optical glass and doubles as a magnifier.

Another project to preserve knowledge is the Church of Scientology’s ‘Trementina Base’ in New Mexico. According to the Church, the purpose of the base is as an archive to preserve the writings and recordings of the founder of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard. The texts are said to have been engraved on stainless steel tablets and encased in titanium capsules, which reside in an underground bunker on the site. I shall leave it to the reader to decide whether this is knowledge we want to transmit to our post- apocalyptic descendants...

What captivates us about the Georgia Guidestones is as much their mystery, as it is the structure itself. R.C. Christian walked into history in 1980, left his mark upon the landscape of Georgia, and then walked right back out of time. In doing so, he also left his mark upon the minds of anybody who has come across the enigmatic Georgia Guidestones. Are they the work of ‘The Order of the Quest’, a secret society as old as civilization and entrusted with the preservation of human wisdom? Or are they the work of a group of Nazi-inspired Illuminati wannabes, with no greater claim to knowledge than any of the rest of us? Whatever our opinion in the here-and-now, we can be sure that a future generation, rebuilding after a global cataclysm, would likely revere the message of the Guidestones – just as we have an innate feeling of respect and awe for the megaliths left behind from our predecessors, such as at Giza, Stonehenge, and Göbekli Tepe.

Lastly, in case the appearance of R.C. Christian seems more akin to a Comte de St Germain or Men in Black intervention to you, rather than a mundane project by some bored businessman, there is one story from the construction of the Georgia Guidestones which bears retelling. Sandblaster Charlie Clamp, who etched the 4,000 individual letters onto the massive granite slabs, recounted that while carving the guides he heard “strange music and disjointed voices.” Readers of my article in Darklore Volume 1, “Her Sweet Murmur”, would certainly be intrigued by that anecdote, with its suggestion of paranormal interactions.

With the Georgia Guidestones, the mystery goes on. And may continue on for millennia, beyond the apocalypse.

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Anonymous's picture

I feel they should be blown apart, they are making people fear. Take them down. When I pass from this crazy 3-D world. I do not want these to represent my values!

Anonymous's picture

You cannot expect everything happening in the world to represent the history you believe in. For me, there has been no president in my lifetime, no war in my lifetime, and many political, health, and religious ideologies being promoted in my lifetime that do not represent me. I would rather those things not be part of my history, but history is what is. These stones are already part of history, and blowing them up is just destroying something that might actually make people think. And yes, promoting peace, harmony, and respect for nature is something people fear right now because we only know war and destruction, but our lifestyle is going to have to change soon. How that happens might be hard on people, but you better gain some flexibility if you wish to survive the changes.

Anonymous's picture

Tearing down the stones will only speed up the process. Which is fine by me. :)

Anonymous's picture

Blown apart?

Hey buddy your house doesn't represent my values, how about if I blow it apart?

In fact, your desire to vandalize someone else's property doesn't represent my values, how about you get blown apart?

Nobody is forcing anyone to OBEY the "commandments", they are just a collection of ideas. But by being inscribed in multiple languages and on durable materials, if by chance these survive thousands of years and aren't blown up by jerks with closed minds, they may help future inhabitants of earth understand not only THIS text but all the text it might help them decode through its multiple languages.

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Greg,

that is a well-written piece, thank you for this one and the general quality of your articles. Not surprisingly, the actual number of individuals who are regularly reporting and analyzing these topics in a manner appealing to those with discriminating capacities is quite low.

Let me just add one little piece of information here. Graham Hancock had stumbled upon the pioneering work of the late Terence McKenna at around the time of his death in 2000. TMK was an individual who brought the other-wordly experiences of psylocybin- and DMT-induced altered states of consciousness back into the world of language. At least he tried as best as he could, and he was one great artist with language.

Here is the little item I would like to share: hidden in his over 150 audio recordings of lectures, many of them available on the web as podcasts or torrents, TMK relates one instance in which he asked the "entity" a particular question. For those of us who have no experience with high doses of psychedelics, it is an old story that you can meet discarnate intelligences while under the influence.

Our brain actually produces DMT in the pineal gland and we pretty much have no idea why, what for. I bet my winter nut supply that there is a good reason for it, the simplest one of which is this: just as we fiddle around with packaging things for posterity, usually ending up with granite, there is a vastly superior method to archive information, and it is DNA. How much info fits into the 97% of our "junk DNA"? Let's say, plenty.

Rick Strassman is the person who has done clinical research with DMT not long ago, one of the very few scientists who have picked up the ball with entheogen research after it was dropped decades ago because the elite referee blew his whistle after getting a confidential message from his handlers.

Hidden in the dozens and dozens of hours of TMK lectures and chats is an instance where Terence asks a question to the manifesting entity, and his question amounts to:

"This is getting out of hand down here with us atom bomb-wielding primates - what is the solution?"

To which the entity replies, paraphrased: "No more than one child per pair of primates".

Now, we could go into the Club of Rome and its backers, it is propaganda when you know who runs the club. The entire human population (with some space between each) fits into Texas. I have yet to see a study which proves that we are "too many". One thing is the current growth-rate of the world population, where it is patently obvious that this story will not end well for many, another is the complete imbalance between those who run things and commission studies, and those who merely replicate in ignorance.

My money is on the usual suspects, otherwise there would be no Georgia GS to write about. As a footnote, add to them: " ... and take those swine eleven shots to be a useful member of the species".

I want to end this little comment by saying that TMK was not one to be easily baffled by what was to be found in high-dosage sessions, but even he took a while to find out that you can ask questions and get the most astonishing answers. The point I related is so obscure and hidden in his always enlightening lectures and talks, and to my knowledge was not put forth in one of his books.

As people like Graham Hancock come to discover the interconnection between human origins and human history with altered brain chemistry by design, let's see if the swine elite has done its homework before they determined that most of the useless eaters need to go, or whether they have their heads so far up their derriere that we can't chop them off to start the reduction of useless thinkers.

Nothing worse than genuine knowledge infiltrated by constipated (white) old farts who can not tell shi from shino.

Regards,

idiotsavant

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Greg,

that is a well-written piece, thank you for this one and the general quality of your articles. Not surprisingly, the actual number of individuals who are regularly reporting and analyzing these topics in a manner appealing to those with discriminating capacities is quite low.

Let me just add one little piece of information here. Graham Hancock had stumbled upon the pioneering work of the late Terence McKenna at around the time of his death in 2000. TMK was an individual who brought the other-wordly experiences of psylocybin- and DMT-induced altered states of consciousness back into the world of language. At least he tried as best as he could, and he was one great artist with language.

Here is the little item I would like to share: hidden in his over 150 audio recordings of lectures, many of them available on the web as podcasts or torrents, TMK relates one instance in which he asked the "entity" a particular question. For those of us who have no experience with high doses of psychedelics, it is an old story that you can meet discarnate intelligences while under the influence.

Our brain actually produces DMT in the pineal gland and we pretty much have no idea why, what for. I bet my winter nut supply that there is a good reason for it, the simplest one of which is this: just as we fiddle around with packaging things for posterity, usually ending up with granite, there is a vastly superior method to archive information, and it is DNA. How much info fits into the 97% of our "junk DNA"? Let's say, plenty.

Rick Strassman is the person who has done clinical research with DMT not long ago, one of the very few scientists who have picked up the ball with entheogen research after it was dropped decades ago because the elite referee blew his whistle after getting a confidential message from his handlers.

Hidden in the dozens and dozens of hours of TMK lectures and chats is an instance where Terence asks a question to the manifesting entity, and his question amounts to:

"This is getting out of hand down here with us atom bomb-wielding primates - what is the solution?"

To which the entity replies, paraphrased: "No more than one child per pair of primates".

Now, we could go into the Club of Rome and its backers, it is propaganda when you know who runs the club. The entire human population (with some space between each) fits into Texas. I have yet to see a study which proves that we are "too many". One thing is the current growth-rate of the world population, where it is patently obvious that this story will not end well for many, another is the complete imbalance between those who run things and commission studies, and those who merely replicate in ignorance.

My money is on the usual suspects, otherwise there would be no Georgia GS to write about. As a footnote, add to them: " ... and take those swine eleven shots to be a useful member of the species".

I want to end this little comment by saying that TMK was not one to be easily baffled by what was to be found in high-dosage sessions, but even he took a while to find out that you can ask questions and get the most astonishing answers. The point I related is so obscure and hidden in his always enlightening lectures and talks, and to my knowledge was not put forth in one of his books.

As people like Graham Hancock come to discover the interconnection between human origins and human history with altered brain chemistry by design, let's see if the swine elite has done its homework before they determined that most of the useless eaters need to go, or whether they have their heads so far up their derriere that we can't chop them off to start the reduction of useless thinkers.

Nothing worse than genuine knowledge infiltrated by constipated (white) old farts who can not tell shi from shino.

Regards,

idiotsavant

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Our brain actually produces DMT in the pineal gland and we pretty much have no idea why, what for.

Well we do not have an idea that our brain DO produce DMT in the pineal gland. Read your Spirit molecule book more closely. This is merely speculation (Allthough this seems to be the Truth™ online these days...)

Simen

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Directed to the general readers of this thread, with a note to Simen that he can have his DMT from the pineal gland or other parts of his body, the simple point is this:

It is apparently a good idea to have some check on a runaway species' numbers; most of us could agree.

The way things are run, students of mankind will agree, the real problems and solutions are rarely if ever addressed.

Maybe, population is not the real problem

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20...

Since we are hanging out at a place and blog where omni-directional thinking is encouraged, though the Simen's don't get it, I allow myself to quote the obscure bit of information which TMK related. It has little meaning for anyone without a notion of TMK, DMT or, god forbid, real experiences, and that is okay. (It was not meant for Simen, but he thinks he was being addressed or has something relevant to contribute. He is a DMT-pineal gland sceptic and needs re-education!)

But it may have meaning for those of us who CAN hang on to Graham Hancock, Robert Bauval and many others' research and who are asking the right questions, and those are new questions.

Terence McKenna asked the mushroom-induced entity, one that the Mayans and the Egyptians were consulting as well, you can bet on it, what can be done about the human dilemma and the reply was, essentially, "ONE CHILD POLICY". And we know that the answer was not from a teleprompter or Planned Parenthood or eugenics-sponsors Rockefeller et al.

The response came from good old TMK's audacious explorations from which most people simply can not bring back any English to talk about. Maybe the people who paid for the stone slabs in Georgia are consulting with the same disembodied intelligence(s) that TMK and shamans are hooking up with.

Hard to say. Food for thought, not for conclusions.

The Guidestones combine the celestial marker craze, the post-diluvian signpost gig and the usual secrecy in a way that rubs most people the wrong way, me included. They are, literally, a black op in granite where most black ops leave only a few witnesses, some "facts", speculation, hearsay and websites.

I have checked reactions to the stones for the past ten years or so, and so far, it is basically "Yeah well, there's these stones in Georgia ...".

Once you realize that Ted Turner among so many other old geezers also votes for a 90% reduction, you simply must add one plus one. The Gallstone faction put up a private op because they figured that to really be part of the big club going back tens of thousands of years, you need a granite thingy aligned with the stars and solstices and all of that. That way they can wow the "educated crowd"? Is it just penis envy? I mean, c'mon, with all that money they could have done something spectacular when compared to the earlier versions of meaningful stone monuments. These stones are a fart compared to a belching volcano, but then, they are located inside the US Corporation and we know how shoddy they build stuff. Two by fours and drywall, overpriced and scheduled for reposession and all of that.

I just hope the sponsors of these stones provided a partial solution to the apparent problem via a secret chamber under these appalingly tasteless stones. Some underground silo housing an electromagnetic pulse device which will instantly wipe out forever anything that conducts electricity and every chip and circuit. It's back to the acoustic guitar and bongos, my friends!

That could and would do to "guide" at least that corner of the world back into the stone age, taking off a lot of pressure on those who actually DO have good intentions. Let's find out and hope for more discoveries of secret chambers under cheapo granite slabs all over Europe with the solution to the problem tied to a timing device.

That would be the ultimate back to the roots movement, no more TV, cars or flying ICBM warheads, thanks to R.C. Christian we know that the evil NWO has a nemesis which says you have to be physically fit and genetically diverse to make it. And these inbred assholes playing god, and golf, do not qualify, like so many other useless eaters. Sorry for the inconvenience!

The MGT

Idiotsavant

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What if "zany" and "hysterical" turn out to be right? This monument is overtly NWO.

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Anonymous wrote:

What if "zany" and "hysterical" turn out to be right? This monument is overtly NWO.

Could be, could be. Though the problem is where do we draw the line at zany and hysterical? If I believed every mind-control drugs in the water supply from the Masonic NASA 19.5 degree hyperdimensional cabal conspiracy theory, I'd be a raving paranoid.

I don't think the article's biased. I point out quite plainly that there are serious issues to do with some of the messages. The hysterical and crazy comes from the "they're going to cut world population by 6 billion people, and they decided to advertise that fact on some big rocks in Georgia".

I can see the guy in the back room going "you wrote what, where?! Idiot, now they know our plans!"
;)

Kind regards,
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Human kind is quite capable of exterminating itself without the guidestones. I'll have a cold beer and popcorn ready in the bunker when it's about to do so, standing ready to "enjoy" whatever I can muster to. :)

Besides, by the time folks discover them after a few generations buried deep under rubles, they'll have forgotten the languages written on them...

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The urge to destroy the symbols of things we don't understand must be resisted for the sake of posterity, which may have a different take on things. The call to blow up the monoliths reminds of the Taliban's barbaric destruction of ancient Buddhist statuary in Afghanistan, the Moslem attempts to level the Egyptian pyramids, witch burnings, etc. Time for humanity to grow up.

As to the first injunction, I expect most people (Alex Jones and the Pope notably excepted) would agree that at this stage of the game, a world population of 500m would improve the quality of life, reduce the incidence of war, spare the environment from further despoilation, and, generally, would be a good thing for the planet and all of its denizens.

The problem is, there's no way to get there from here that doesn't offend our sense of justice and moral decency. But do the Guidestones advocate genocide? I think you pretty much have to be a "zany" conspiracy theorist to find that message in the medium. Quite the contrary. The "commandment" specifies genetic diversity. It is in opposition to the sort of impoverishment of the gene pool which would inevitably occur under an NWO eugenics program, as theorized by some, in which only self-appointed "elites" would be allowed to breed.

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I may not have this spot on, but from what I have read the LDS Church believes that it is essential to have large families in this life to help you populate the planet that you will be God of in the afterlife.
I don't think the Guidestones will change much for them....

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Do Georgians remember the Constitution.
Forget the message of the stones,
free speech is a guarantee.

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Curious that Americans would feel threatened by those points and much of the rest of the world would see them as unattainable utopia. There are much worse messages that could be left..."God bless America" being high on the list.

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I see that point 3 of the Georgia Guidestones is "unite humanity with a living new language"

Unfortunately there is no mention of Esperanto which indeed is a living new language.

Your readers might be interested in seeing http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

A glimpse of Esperanto can be seen at http://www.lernu.net

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Esperanto? I bet there are more people fluent in Elvish or Klingon by now ;-)

And let's not talk about LOL speak either! :-P

It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

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From the air looking down, i bet it assembles into a pentagram shape.
Wonder what is under the stones and what is the history of that land, ie. burial site or Indian site?

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There are probably more people speaking Latin fluently today.

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I found the article to be enlightening and a good read. I enjoy some of the comments too. Some vitriol there eh? Keep an open mind folks, noone is forcing any of this stuff on you, yet.

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This article was well thought out and written, and a pleasure to read for the most part, but the apparent typo in the first blockquote makes me not want to buy the source book from which it came. I mean, did he - Mr. Christian - REALLY repeal his intentions in front of the banker?

Nothing taints credibility like a screamingly obvious typo.

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cac1963 wrote:

This article was well thought out and written, and a pleasure to read for the most part, but the apparent typo in the first blockquote makes me not want to buy the source book from which it came. I mean, did he - Mr. Christian - REALLY repeal his intentions in front of the banker?

Nothing taints credibility like a screamingly obvious typo.

Thanks, fixed. You'll have to forgive a typo here and there in a book of 70,000 words or so that is independently published. If you can't, then don't buy the book.
:)

Kind regards,
Greg
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Its a start to get the population down, without having to do anything horrible to most of us. My husband and I have none. Our brothers, and sister have had enough, to fill in any gaps. Good guild lines...

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THIS IS ALL THE WORK OF AN EVIL GROUP... IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN AND KNOW YOUR BIBLE THEN YOU KNOW THIS IS EVIL....

IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT UP SOMETHING FOR GOD THEN WHY SO SECRETIVE...???? A LITTLE STRANGE,,, BE PROUD OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN THE NAME OF THE LORD...

I AM SURE HE HAS HAD SOME SORT OF VISION LIKE MANY OF OUR PROPHETS IN THB BIBLE DAYS.... BUT THIS GOES OFF THE DEEP END OF SATANS WORK..

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ALL GOOD PEOPLE USE CAPS TO SPREAD THE WORD BUT IT SUCKS TO READ THEM, HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED?

lowercase dude

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People like you make me want to kill myself.. You are a sheep... Bahhhh!!

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Lol you clearly missed the bit where god says he is a jealous god! Emmmm is jealousy not an awful affliction to the mind, and a disease? etc etc etc........... go back to bible class!

Aurum Metallicum all things in moderation...
The matrix of ones blood is far more to conquer then the matrix of ones mind.

Satanists are like majic mushroom's. Once you see one... then you can see them all!

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Or read Leviticus man or the book of kings, theres gore enough, blood sloshed around the altar or the horns on the altar........ the bible is a dark satirical piss take man! Read it... properly.... sheep for sure

Aurum Metallicum all things in moderation...
The matrix of ones blood is far more to conquer then the matrix of ones mind.

Satanists are like majic mushroom's. Once you see one... then you can see them all!

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Great article.

Satanists? lol... Destroy them? They should be protected and made into a World Heritage site. After guacamole hits the fan, we might not find ourselves in the same mess we're in right now. I'm of the opinion that all megalithic structures around the world are actually Georgia Stones, just not deciphered in time to get us out of this mess.

But with that said, population control is a non sequitur item. As long as separate nations exist, there will be a need to populate the tribes to counter another. It's innate to human tribal and war mongering ways. Ask China or India for a 90% decrease in population, then ask the US or Russia if they would like to be 30 million each as opposed to the 100 millions in both other countries. Not going to happen until governments and borders all around the world disappear. But under this scenario, only a few options are available, the dreaded One World Government or a return to the Stone Age to start all over this current tribal/national cycle.

Not that I agree to be a slave to the Queen of England, Ceasar Obama or the next United Nation fraudulent President. Besides, who decides who gets a kid, or a better way to ask, who decides who is "worthy" to be able to procreate in order to keep the population under control? And how is it enforced?

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This engaging article does have one comment that struck me, concerning the pyramids and their lack of engraving. One needs to remember that the Great Pyramids were once encased in limestone which was said to be covered in writings, but this casing was stripped off to help build Cairo. Certainly some of this counts?

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maybe this is the wrong place to be posting this, but I can't find dailygrail's videos anymore since they changed format???

PLEASE HELP
I AM BORED AND STUFF

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Hi,

Perhaps the proof is in the astrology. See this biwheel:

http://edkohout.com/mundane/WZO-GG-01.gif

On March 22, 1980, Uranus has returned exactly to its original place, and Neptune is opposite itself and Moon. Other alignments are precise and in all this is astounding, possibly pointing to the creators of this monument.

When this TDG article was published, Saturn had returned to its original position. How celesially astute!

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Hi,

Perhaps the proof is in the astrology. See this biwheel:

http://edkohout.com/mundane/WZO-GG-01.gif

On March 22, 1980, Uranus has returned exactly to its original place, and Neptune is opposite itself and Moon. Other alignments are precise and in all this is astounding, possibly pointing to the creators of this monument.

When this TDG article was published, Saturn had returned to its original position. How celesially astute!

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I bookmarked this link. Thank you for good job!,

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Very interesting. This is the first major contemporaneous petroglyph designed to withstand the next reversal of polarity event in Earth's geo-magnetic field, the culmination of the current global warming trend, which will probably occur in the next 100 years, and threatens to be the very type of catastrophe that could result in a mere 500,000,000 survivors.

Of course, it is not likely that the creators of the Georgia Guidestones had access to this information, since the discovery of the phenomenon of reversed polarity is a more recent occurrence. They did know, however, of the existence of recurrent cataclysmic events on planet Earth, both from the study of the Bible (Revelations, in particular) and the data regarding the Ice Age(s), as well as the fact of the extinction of such hardy species as dinosaurs.

Is it possible that the creators of Stonehenge had themselves intuited a similar possibility, and that Stonehenge itself was designed as a veritable time machine of a warning sign to "civilization"?

Just a thought.

Jeffree Mars

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Now where have I read those words. Oh well, guess it doesn't matter much since this new bunch of mysterious stone masons chisled a newer message to follow. So let see now, they want us to slim down to just 500,000,000 from 6.8 billion. Like thats gonna work.