Quantum Near Death Experiences

The Daily Mail is featuring a story on NDEs and quantum physics that is bound for the "if you read TDG, you would have known that ages ago" file:

A near-death experience happens when quantum substances which form the soul leave the nervous system and enter the universe at large, according to a remarkable theory proposed by two eminent scientists.

According to this idea, consciousness is a program for a quantum computer in the brain which can persist in the universe even after death, explaining the perceptions of those who have near-death experiences.

Dr Stuart Hameroff, Professor Emeritus at the Departments of Anesthesiology and Psychology and the Director of the Centre of Consciousness Studies at the University of Arizona, has advanced the quasi-religious theory.

It is based on a quantum theory of consciousness he and British physicist Sir Roger Penrose have developed which holds that the essence of our soul is contained inside structures called microtubules within brain cells.

They have argued that our experience of consciousness is the result of quantum gravity effects in these microtubules, a theory which they dubbed orchestrated objective reduction (Orch-OR).

Thus it is held that our souls are more than the interaction of neurons in the brain. They are in fact constructed from the very fabric of the universe - and may have existed since the beginning of time.

...With these beliefs, Dr Hameroff holds that in a near-death experience the microtubules lose their quantum state, but the information within them is not destroyed. Instead it merely leaves the body and returns to the cosmos.

Long-time readers of this site would know that this is hardly a new theory - Stuart told us all about it in a Daily Grail interview from back in 2004-2005. When I specifically asked him about the implications of his theory for near-death experiences, Stuart replied that "when the metabolism driving quantum coherence (in microtubules) is lost, the quantum information leaks out to the spacetime geometry in the universe at large. Being holographic and entangled it doesnt dissipate. Hence consciousness (or dream-like subconsciousness) can persist."

We've also mentioned the speculative theory of physicist Henry Stapp, that quantum physics allows for the possibility of an afterlife existence. But that was only 2 years ago, so you may have to give the mainstream media a few years to get onto that one...

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Inannawhimsey's picture
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darn scientific reductionists...;3

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In another link from the News Items, the Daily Mail has an article about empathy which starts with the following comment:

Quote:

Even the hardest heart sometimes melts.
Now scientists think they know why.
Research shows that when we put ourselves into someone else’s shoes, the part of the brain used for cold, hard analysis is suppressed.
The finding could explain why even highly-intelligent people get taken in by sob stories.

"Even highly-intelligent people" (was that hyphen really necessary, by the way?). So, empathy is a trait to be expected in the stupid and the gullible but we are meant to be surprised to find it in intelligent people?

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Dr Stuart Hameroff, Professor Emeritus at the Departments of Anesthesiology and Psychology and the Director of the Centre of Consciousness Studies at the University of Arizona, has advanced the quasi-religious theory.

I wonder how the esteemed scientists would react to their work being characterised as "quasi-religious"?

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People have this misconception that highly rational people would be devoid of feelings, like Vulcans.

Which is inconsistent with our latest efforts in A.I. research, which seem to indicate that in order to conceive a truly functioning strong A.I., we would have to program it with the ability to simulate emotional responses.

Because there's just no drive in your life, if you don't give 2 $#!ts about things ;)

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It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

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which brings up, to me, can something without an endocrine system have emotions? which would include 'ghosts'...

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Excellent question.

It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

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