News Briefs 30-07-2009

The unstoppable journey continues:

Thanks to Greg, Rick, RPJ

Quote of the Day:

If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?

Albert Einstein

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Mark Turner's picture
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FYI, your Gordon Cooper link is broken.

Thanks for a great blog!

Regards,
Mark Turner
www.mindblogging.com

Perceval's picture
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Thanks for the nudge.

Also fixed the link to the Enlightenment Machine. Worth clicking for a laugh. (Sorry folks - a few distractions today).

Daily Grail, meet Mindblogging. Mindblogging - Daily Grail. I'm sure you'll find plenty in common!

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Was that Rael's son, or the newest character of Sacha Baron Cohen? :-P

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Warning: unsupervised instruction in magic may inflate your child's self-esteem past tolerable levels, leading them to start an 'educational foundation' in their own name.

LOL Brilliant!

Incidentally, Mexico is mourning the loss of a very charismatic magician called Beto el Boticario. As a kid, I loved to watch this affable man perform his "experiments", as he called them —later as a teenager I was a bit more interested in the magician's assistant!

Descanse en paz, magazo!

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The credit for that one goes to big G.

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Very interesting is Richard Dawkins' reaction to the whole thing. Mind you, Taylor has kept his comments relatively general and unpersonal, and here Dawkins goes calling him an idiot.

"You seem to be very, very angry." - "Shut the f*ck up I'm not you idiot !".

That a grown-up and intelligent man like Dawkins would let himself get provoked to a response of that kind just illustrates more beautifully than any of his critics could, how his "crusade" is not about reason or rationality, but about much deeper issues of his, be it fear, anger, or something else. Priceless how he lets his pants down like that.

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Surely more evidence that whales are intelligent creatures who deserve our respect?

Whale and Dolphin Conservation Society

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@levitatingcat

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I would respect them more if they didn't have all that useful ivory. As long as we maintain the herd, what's the matter with culling it for our advantage?

Respects,
Gwedd

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Sometimes I suspect that's the same reasoning aliens use when they go and kidnap innocent people in the middle of the night.

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Surely aliens with a higher intellect must be peaceful.
After all, pacifism is the highest form of societal development :P

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Would you show the proper diplomacy to a cockroach wandering around your kitchen cabinet? ;-)

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well no, I wouldn't. But that is because I'm not sufficiently evolved.

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So you do agree that showing respect to other species sharing this planet with us —specially the ones that are endowed with intelligence— is a sign of a higher evolution.

Even if those species have the misfortune of carrying ivory, or some other stuff we might deem valuable.

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I'm saying that whales are being protected because they supposedly are intelligent.

While dolphins are perhaps as intelligent as a smart dog, most whales are kinda stupid. On a similar level as many animals we eat. So eating whales is ok to a degree - we don't want to mess with the ecological balance too much (we already have of course).

Also I was making fun of the pacifist crowd who take themselves as superior to the rest of humankind.

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So trying to eat less whales is important, not so much as for the whales themselves, but for the ecological impact their disappearance would cause?

Don't get the impression that I'm a Vegan. I respect them, but I love to eat meat; the bloodier the better. I know it's paradoxical but I'm human.

But regardless of the lack of intelligence a dog has, I wouldn't be able to eat one. I would think of my beloved Kimba, a boxer I had as a child.

Am I a hypocrite? possibly.

But I think that if we lived in a world where the animals could communicate with us, I would have to stick to plants.

Intelligence has to count for something. It may be the most precious thing in the Universe, for all we know.

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The "earns a riposte" link has the same target as the link to Shermer's article.

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Shame to waste a good link. Apologies again for not having my mind on the job.

Thanks for letting me know.

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