Genesis & Inter-Hominid Relationships

From the King James Bible:

Genesis 6

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

We all know the verse, and many of us have pondered on the exact nature of these 'sons of God' over the centuries.

Since Däniken & Sitchin, many are convinced of the extra-terrestrial origin of these horny divine children. And it's easy to see why: it's compelling to interpret it as an allusion of a visitation from on high, since our culture teaches us to seek God in the sky above.

Or, you can opt for the orthodox route, and consider everything in the Bible as myths & moral fables. But what if there are alternative explanations?

Last week Turner Young posted this news regarding the comments of Professor Svante Pääbo, member of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, and quite possibly the leading authority in our extinct cousins —the Neanderthals.

Professor Paabo has stated that there's enough evidence to conclude that pretty much every human being living today —with the exception of people of a more recent African descent —well, recent in evolutionary terms anyway— have a little bit of Neanderthal in their genes.

Yep, it's official: Great, great, great Granny had a thing for hairy backs :)

But this is where it get's interesting, since according to Pääbo:

all non-Africans - be they from France, China or Papua New Guinea - share the same amount of Neanderthal DNA, suggesting that interbreeding occurred before those populations split. The timing makes the Middle East the likeliest place where humans leaving Africa and resident Neanderthals did the deed. [emphasis mine]

So the Middle East is where our two species broke the ice. After considering these events, I began to think: what if the Genesis text is a rather distorted version of this landmark in our evolutionary history.

What if the sons of God were the Neanderthals?

I know many people will object with this, since we've been taught to think of the Neanderthals as clumsy and inferior to our more modern species —after all, there has to be a reason why they are no longer around... right?

Every year Pääbo and his colleagues discover more and more fascinating things about our cousins (um, uncles?). We know now that they were capable of speech, we've found sings of burial rituals, we discovered they were capable of sophisticated tools, and maybe even possibly some artistic expression in the form of necklaces —whether these were copied from objects made by modern humans is still under debate.

Add to all this the fact that Neanderthals possessed a slightly larger cranial volume than us, and our revered superiority starts to crumble a bit...

So, let me propose this rather heretic idea, just for the fun of it: what if some Neanderthal groups established in the Middle East were capable of more advanced forms of civilization than our current understanding of them credits them for?

What if some of the incredible megalithic remains that continue to marvel us were left by them?

With that idea, wouldn't be possible to find new meaning in the verses of the Genesis? Wouldn't the newcomers (H. Sapiens) view the old settlers (Neanderthals) not as inferior beings, but at the very least their equals, and maybe even superior?

Wouldn't ancient man consider cave-dwelling people to be in closer contact with the Mother Earth —hence their possible divine status?

What's more, this speculative hypothesis might also explain the gigantism of the Nephilim —the offspring of the sons of God with the daughters of men.

What do you think?

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It's so interesting to hear this concept forwarded because I've had similar ideas myself. I have questioned family members previously (who happen to view the bible very literally) on their belief of the Nephilim and the outcome of this union discussed in 'the bible'. The answer has always been a typical (to the family members I speak of), "I don't know, only God does" etc, etc. However considering 'the bible' as maybe largely symbolic I've thought about whether the Nephilim was a label attached, along with the demonic associations, by the 'victors' of a battle/war and that these 'demons' did indeed represent Neanderthals. Interested as Red on others thoughts...

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Thank you for the comment, deredder. indeed, I agree with you that not only we face the challenge of deciding which aspects of historic and/or mythic accounts have been censored or embellished by the victors based on their particular viewpoint; there's also our own cultural bias.

We are so used to consider the idea of Neanderthals as primitive simpletons, than we assume our ancestors shared our racism, too. Well, maybe they didn't.

So maybe our extinct relatives in the Homo family tree suffered the same fate as pagan midwives and healers, who became witches and demon worshipers.

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Isn't that the same idea as the "others" in much of the ancient legends being other hominids? Trolls, giants and such.

Even today some women prefer big, ugly, brutish men.

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It's basically the same, but with a slight twist: the proposing that the "others" were once held in a higher regard, instead of always viewing them as inferior.

Then again, maybe I'm completely wrong, and the 'sons of God' depicted in the Bible were something akin to the Boskop Man. There's so little we know about this extinct brand of hominids it's a crying shame.

But getting back to my original idea, what's interesting to me is to try to propose seeing familiar things under different perspectives; to try to cast aside our biases and long-held beliefs. Let me be clear: I'm not completely convinced that the 'sons of God' were Neanderthals, although I do think there is currently more scientific evidence to support this new interpretation of the Genesis text, than there is evidence to substantiate the beliefs of some 'Ancient Astronaut' ideas proposed by the likes of Sitchin & Däniken.

PS.- There's an old Mexican saying: "Men are like bears; the uglier, the better" Maybe it's our inner Neanderthal screaming for recognition ;)

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I don't beleive neanderthal to be extinct. Consider the sitings of all sasquatch as being the smarter remnants of neanderthal. Read the story of Zana and it could well be.

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Yeah, I remember the story of Zana. Zana was an Almas, though; there's a difference to their other ellusive cousins the Sasquatches, who are bigger, and possibly more ape-like.

What we know of Neanderthals today would make me think Zana and her kin were something else. Perhaps some remnant of Homo Erectus? The fact that Almas are depicted as not possessing any kinds of tool, and not even the mastery of fire, is opposed to the abilities Neanderthals possessed.

Almas are also covered in reddish hair, whereas Neanderthals have been getting balder and balder :)

But the story of her and the children she had with the men of that village has always interested me. It suggested interbreeding between different species of hominids is possible.

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Zana was more then capable to do all the chores the villagers gave her. Therefore her breed was capable of many things. So I wouldn't rule out the neanderthal connection. The more mysterious are the cro-mags, how to they fit into the puzzle? And how did they co-exist with neanderthal for so long without a blending effect?

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Cro-Magnons were just the first examples of modern humans found in Europe. Before they got there, H. Sapiens had ample time to get jiggy with every other hominin they found on the road.

Await tomorrow's news briefs for more info :)

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so are you implying there were 3 different hominids co-existing this planet. Things are starting to get complicated.

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just recently another separate kind of human was found, dating back to the period in question, 30-50k years ago.

It would not be surprising if there were more, perhaps living in areas where we don't dig much. Old plains that are now sea bed and such things.

Also don't forget that DNA analysis is a pretty recent tool, and the number of samples of human old human remains is fairly small.

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There was us (H. Sapiens), Neanderthals, Hobbits (Floresiensis), and Woman X, as earthling pointed out.

There's also Boskops, and if you enter the Fortean realm, many many other bipedal primates that shared the planet with us, and may still share it today.

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our dating could be way off, also this would bring a new perspective to "the missing link". EP would have some meteor disaster to explain this i'm sure.
This is when we need that freakin time machine, not that I would go back.

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This is when we need that freakin time machine, not that I would go back.

Why not?? all the hot cave girls would throw themselves at ya! ;)

Getting to EP and cosmic collisions, maybe(*) something like that shifted the position of God from an earthly location —Gaia, the underworld— to a celestial one.

A big-ass rock falling from the sky might have forced people to consider the possibility that there were more powerful beings 'up in the air', and so the people that still had reverence for the earthly spirits —Neanderthals— were demonized and persecuted.

(*): Once again, this is just fun wild speculation from my part; however if Roland Emmerich decides to make a movie from it, I would at least expect a paid flight ticket to the Cannes screening :-P

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LOL, as you said, yep a big rock landing on these revered deities would change their minds I think.

Got to apologize RPJ, I started this comment and then my lovely lady contacted me on msn. After 1 hour of web cam, I don't know were I was going with this. I'll get back to ya.

PS......keep me some tickets to the premier. I'll buy the popcorn!........*pop*.........

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I read a book about these people once and the more I read the more I found myself identifying with them. Maybe I'm a throwback or something! I have red hair, too.

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Oh yes. Red hair and green eyes, a possible gift of the interbreeding. Back in high school there was this girl called Paola... Vaaalgame Dios ;)

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