On What Might Very Well Be The Eve Of WWIII, What Thoughts, Reflections, And/Or Comments Do You Have?

Has the die been cast? At long last, will the Owl of Minerva unfurl its wings and judge the Anglosphere among other things?

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emlong's picture
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It does appear the wheels have come off. Economic collapse will be the matchlight. World wars can nullify lots of debt contracts.

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Emlong

With the financial situation in the world and the immenent death of the petrol dollar, WWIII is unavoidable at this point in my opinion!!!

Liberal Arts never prepared anybody for this type of situation; because, it doesn't teach people to think in practical ways. So, very few people have followed the money! Principles and philosophies provide cheap excuses for not thinking out problems and they solve nothing. They blind people from seeing the ugly reality of the real world. WWIII will be very destructive and billions will die; but, it will probably be a short war, one or two hours long!

I suggest that my friends on TDG take vacations in South America, Sub-Saharan Africa, Southeast Asia, or Japan!!!

What do you think?

cnnek

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Qui bono?

In my opinion WWIII will not be fought with conventional weapons. Some might say it is already been fought over in controlling information systems (Chinese hackers probing US systems), natural resources (Iraq), or trying to maintain a trading partner (Russian weapons in Syria).

I think a good example is the situation in the Korean peninsula. North Korea acts like a spoiled teenager and threatens to attack US military installations, Tokyo, and South Korea. Why did both China and Russia, both having repeatedly been reluctant of intervening with the hissy fits of North Korea, condemn and disapprove? One only has to follow the money. Both Russians and Chinese have huge investments in South Korea and in Japan, not to mention the overall trading between all the parties involved. If North Korea would have launched a few nukes and tried to invade south, the collateral damage to money (business, investments, trading) would have been too great.

The Chinese banks have the US government by the balls. It is not in the interest of China to let the US collapse. The money flowing from US to China is, to a large degree, powering the Chinese economical growth. If we look at Europe, all the big players outside the trading zone (US, China, Russia, to some extent India) have made big investments and are enjoying the benefits of European Union as an economical amusement park and free for all buffet. In example: Members of president Putin’s inner circle, and thousands of obscenely rich Russians, are buying land and property in Finland, Sweden, Germany, Switzerland and Austria, and their wealth is safely stored in banks in Zürich, Liechtenstein and London. Spanish coastal areas, and Gibraltar, have been a safe haven for Russian money since mid-90’s. Chinese goods arrive through Russia, via trans-Siberian railroad to Finland, from where it is distributed to Europe. Everybody grabs a piece of that cake. European companies are establish their call-centres and manufacturing in India. China, Japan, and South Korea have been manufacturing our cell phones, cars and computers for decades.

One of the greater benefits, as opposed to massive side effects and downsides, of the current global economical networks is that you simply cannot nuke a part of the globe without “shooting yourself in the leg” in the process. The assets are now, and have been for the past 15 years, global and shared. The rule of thumb is that you don't hurt the money. Someone really should tell this to idiots like Alex Jones (Russia-nukes-US nonsense and other fairy tales), and while at it, to the rest of the armchair conspiracy theorists, whose understanding of the world seems to be rather limited.

What has ultimately changed since WWII is that everybody owes everybody in a massive scale. A collapse of one economical area will affect others in ways it did not 60 years ago. When you look at it more closely, I think it is rather ironic that the much-loathed systems of global capitalism are actually keeping us from annihilating one another.

If this is creation, I feel misplaced.

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There is this thing called the red button and psychopaths and suicidal human behavior. There are are not very firm checks and balances against nuclear conflict, and humans are notorious for panicking at times. Mostly I am concerned about how miserable some of the world leaders look these days. Some of them look suicidal. Psychopaths think nothing of killing everybody in the room including themselves. I am particularly concerned about the megalomaniacal and suicidal impulses of radical Zionism - a country with enough nukes to end it all for the planet, and who have made statements threatening to do so if things do not go their way.

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Emlong,

The Anglosphere is bankrupt along with most of Europe and the ugly truth about Israel's Radical Zionism has been exposed. So, nobody has anything to lose, including the Palestinians. I wish that the Israeli cry babies would stop calling Palestinian and other Islamic payback terrorism!!! What comes around goes around!!!

In the food for thought department, Isreal has armed atleast four submarines with nuclear weapons and the submarines are sailing around!

In the grabbing at straws department, If Miko Peled, along with other peace advocates, could come to power in Israel and Ron Paul, along with other sane leaders, could could come to power in the Anglosphere, we could work with our friends the slandered Syrians, Iranians, and Egyptians to stablize the Middle East!

Neither the Middle East nor Africa needs any help from NATO or the Anglosphere! Asians make much better partners; because, we don't try to control. We try to creat harmony by working with others for mutual benefit, not just for our own benefit!

What do you think?

cnnek

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Johannes Angelos

I don't totally agree. I have lived in Japan almost 28 years and I'm very familiar with the game over here. We, China, South Korea, and Japan can back our currencies with Gold, Silver, and other precious metals, mainly Gold, which we have purchased with dollars. We don't need the dollar and we are sick of the Anglosphere. Things are not what they seem!

Here are a few cross-referenceable examples. North Korea's nuclear weapons came from U.S. Presidents Clinton and G.W. Bush, not Russia or China. The U.S. wants to destablize this area of Asia. The Japanese Self Defence Force, SDF, is larger than the British Military. If the Anglosphere and Israel don't learn that nobody is going to let them Control the Planet Earth, nobody is going to care about what gets destroyed in a nuclear war! Besides, there is nothing of irreplacable value left in the Anglosphere.

What do you think?

cnnek

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Cnnek

I respect and value your opinion as someone who has lived in Japan for quite some time, as opposed to someone like me, who just visits Far East frequently, and therefore sees a narrower picture. These mechanics discussed are interesting in the sense that they are (unfortunately) the foundation of the world in which we live in. The united states of Europa is broke and hasn’t recovered because the capital simply isn’t there. United States keeps printing more money and handing out IOUs. The real financial power is exactly in the area you live in (Japan is truly a wonderful and fascinating country and culture).

You are quite right stating that China, South Korea and Japan do not actually need the US dollar. No one does. It is just one medium of exchange. There is a difference between assets and currency. I presume you know of Japan-China direct currency trading without using dollar as an intermediary. Still, one cannot overlook the fact that China has ca. 2,3 trillion invested in dollar assets (this might be old information from 2011, it might actually be more or less). Be as it may, that is roughly 70% of their reserves, while the rest is mainly euros, and there is some ”change” in Pound Sterling and Yen.

South Korea is diversifying their assets, mainly buying, as you correctly stated, gold, as well as Chinese Yuan, Chinese bonds and stocks, and euros. South Korea still has something like 327 billion in dollar assets after buying 20 metric tons of gold earlier this year.

Japan has something in whereabouts of 1,3 trillion in dollar assets.

For the reference: the adjusted US GNP in Q4 2012 was ca. 12 trillion. (U.S. Department of Commerce: Bureau of Economic Analysis)

13th of April 2013 USA warned China, Japan and South Korea against weakening their currencies in order to gain trade advantage. What I do not understand here is: why would US want to “destabilize the area”, which would cause the currencies to weaken, which in the longer run, would give China, Japan and South Korea serious advantage in trade over US? The only thing irreplaceable in “Anglosphere” for the collective Far East is import/export mechanics, and their investments measured in trillions. China and Japan are the world’s largest economies, and they do not mess around. The US dollar, and its exchange rate, is very dependent on oil, the trade in Central and South America, and Far East, but it does not end there. I think that you are very correct stating that the fall of the petrol dollar is near, but I do not agree with the repercussions presented. China has been buying and selling oil for six months using Yuan. “Petrol dollar” (not the theory, the actual practice) is just one mechanism where dollar is been used as an intermediary currency. Two thirds of international trade is settled by the US dollar. Then there are the international wholesales in financial markets done exclusively in US dollars. Syndicated loans and international bonds trading? Well, that would be in dollars. There is another way of looking at this: crude oil is actually the currency, not any monetary system. Euro, Yuan, Dollar, or Yen, it does not matter as long as it is as risk free, and as stable, as it can be. That is why oil, as an asset, is important. No one benefits from instability or mutually assured destruction in the current global economical climate. I am sorry, but in my view, “creating instability in some area” is part of Cold War tactics, which does not work the same way in the current world. Any form of any kind of unrest has been pacified (with or without force) in areas vital to economics, and therefore politics, around the world.

My understanding is that North Korea developed long distance missiles and nuclear warheads under the nose of Clinton administration. Actually, under the nose of everyone. Russia and China allowed it to happen. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, and China becoming the model example of hard-core neo-capitalism, North Korea has been nothing but a nuisance to both (as can be read from the political rhetoric lately). I was not aware of Clinton admin and Bush admin selling nukes to North Korea.

I do not know enough about Israel, and the current state of affairs in the Middle East, to comment. Well, I keenly watch and read the news, but I do not think that any form of media is a reflection of reality. I am not saying that all media is distorting or twisting the truth (whatever that is), but I think the view of coverage is, by and large, narrow and without proper analysis. But what I do know is that the whole area has been more or less at war since the decline of the Roman Empire, and that is something not likely to change any time soon.

If this is creation, I feel misplaced.

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Johannes Angelos,

The rich elite that control the Anglosphere and Israel want their power and their opulent life styles to continue forever. The non-Jewish Rothschild family controls Israel. Rothschild, Roth=Red Schild=Shield in German, is a title. The family name is Baur, pronunced Bower. These rich elite have lost touch with reality and they think that they know what is good for them! As George Carlin pointed out years ago, you don't need a formal conspiracy to have a conspiracy when you have a group that knows what is good for them. So, these rich elite continue to do what they think is good for them. For examply, can you have a post WWII arms race without bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Can you have a powerful post WWII Military Industrial Complex without a post WWII arms race? In my opinion the answer to both questions is NO!

The Angelosphere has created instability in various parts of the world in order to prevent them from becoming power centers that could rival the Anglosphere. Presidents Clinton and G.W.Bush gave nuclear weapons to North Korea in order to creat instability in this part of Asia. The rich elite of the Anglosphere don't care about anybody other than themselves. The creation of the situation in the world, as it is today, required a degree of stupidity beyond anything I can possibly imagine.

Since 2009 Japan, China, and South Korea have been slowly using U.S. Dollar assets to buy precious metals, Gold, Silver, etc., and participate in E.U. bailouts. We have a soft-landing strategy for the E.U. and the Anglosphere. But, there is no way for our soft-landing strategy to work, unless there is a return to sanity; because, the elite of the Anglosphere and the E.U. won't cede excessive power and privilage without a fight!

The hight of stupidity of the rich elite of the Anglosphere was the elimination of the Middle Class! The Upper Class needs the Middle Class in order to give the lower class the illusion upward mobility!

What do you think?

cnnek

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