White Powdered Gold and Ormus

Hi Sol,

I have read Gardner’s books and have some theories on this subject. It has been several years since I read this book, so here we go.

Gardner discusses the concepts of “Shem” being depicted in Egyptian art as small cones of “bread” for the Pharaohs and high priests. This makes sense as there are ample examples of Egyptian art showing this scene. His theory of the “factory” where the white gold powder was manufactured appears feasible, but any remanence of the white powder is impossible to prove. The interesting point he makes is that this cave had artwork showing both Pharaohs of the 18th and 19th Dynasty used the so-called white powder. These were two families who were supposed to have been strongly opposed to each other.

History books inform us that Tutmosis III (I think) started a secret brotherhood with the intention of locating the lost secrets of earlier dynasties and using them to his benefit. This factory was supposed to been started during the 18th dynasty. Gardner claims that ingesting this shem in the correct amounts gave the person visions and the ability to leave one’s body to see all. This may be where the all-seeing eye concept fits in to Egyptian society. Maybe it also lead to physical deformities in later 18th dynasty Pharaohs such as Akhenaten & Tut.

This powder was to stimulate the pineal gland within the brain which allowed these visions to occur. This gland is also stimulated by light. There have been instances where when this gland has been stimulated; the person starts to have visions. Gurdjieff was an example of this, where an auto accident in his late teenage years changed his life and he was able to see things with such clarity and understand knowledge that others could not. It was claimed that this accident caused the pineal gland to be stimulated in some way.

Other ways to stimulate this gland was by vibration at certain frequencies. A thought I have always had is that this was the reason for the design of the Kings chamber in the GP. It has been proven that the granite slabs in the roof structure of this chamber were individually tuned to vibrate at the same frequency. Three sides of each slab were smooth and the top surface was randomly carved, and tests have proven that each slab vibrates at the same frequency. The king’s chamber is designed to vibrate within the pyramid structure, and therefore this may have been part of a ceremony where this structure was used to assist the Pharaoh to harness the all-seeing eye vision. This theory has more merit than the tomb theory.

The last thing I read on Hudson is that he was in poor health and his factory had been damaged in a fire. This caused him financial problems and any future research was in jeopardy. Gardner will go on writing books and I read that a movie was being made about this subject based off this book. He does have an agenda to put the Stuarts back, but maybe all royals should be buried. No-one needs them.

To answer your question, I don’t think Gardner & Hudson were dreaming, but much more research will be needed to prove any white powder theories. There of course would be obstructions to face if one were to publicly attempt to prove these theories.

AAiek

Maybe I'm off base but, did you know traces of cocaine have been found in egyption mummies. If not abused cocaine can lead energy, power, higher awareness, and numbs pain. Tribes in the Andes use it daily for those same reasons. Shipping cocaine across the ocean would of made it white powdered gold in the terms of cost.

This topic is definitely interesting. The Google ads at the top of your post say this about the topic: marginalize the topic by making it seem accessible – just another health fad. No one is going to come after Google for advertising “rare ormus”, but the poor scientist researching ORME may not be so lucky. Until such time as these scientists can safely post on the likes of TDG about their discoveries, we’ll have to glean what we can from authors like Laurence Gardner, who said when pitching his book “Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark” in the Feb-March 2003 issue of Nexus Magazine,

“Recent findings about the exotic properties of monatomic gold and the platinum group metals are rediscoveries of an advanced science understood or at least known by the ancient Mesopotamian, Egyptian and Israelite priests. It is known that both iridium and rhodium have anti-ageing properties, while ruthenium and platinum compounds interact with the DNA and the cellular body. It is also known that gold and the platinum metals, in their monatomic high-spin state, can activate the endocrinal glandular system in a way that heightens awareness, perception and aptitude to extraordinary levels. In this regard, it is considered that the high-spin powder of gold has a distinct effect upon the pineal gland, increasing melatonin production. Likewise, the monatomic powder of iridium has a similar effect on the serotonin production of the pituitary gland, and would appear to reactivate the body's "junk DNA" along with the under-used and unused parts of the brain.”

In the 15th century, the French alchemist Nicolas Flamel wrote in his Last Testament, dated 22 November 1416, that when the noble metal was perfectly dried and digested it made a fine "powder of gold", which is the Philosophers' Stone.

Author Philip Gardner has this perspective on “The Elixir” in “The Secret of the Holy Grail and the Discovery of the Elixir of Life”:

“It was about 1:00 am and I was having a cup of tea, when my wife, who was reading her medical journals, said something about snake venom and T-cells. It didn’t make any sense so I asked her to elucidate.

She explained that scientists had found that certain elements of snake venom had been recently found to help T-cell replication. T-cells she said were the things that helped our immune system – keeping us alive.

Well, my mind went into overdrive as I already even at this stage knew a lot about serpents, dragons and their symbolic elements in the legends of Arthur and others. I instantly knew or was “enlightened” to the fact that this was a physical side of the symbolic immortality of the snake and so two years of research began into the snake, its myths and now, science.

What I found following an awful lot of scientific research and cross checking was that the unique proteins, peptides, polypeptides and enzymes found within snake venom had in fact been used by ancient man for thousands of years in all kinds of medical applications and that it was even amazingly mixed with the snakes or a hosts blood. This was the red and white mixing together to aid the health and boost the life of the individual. We amazingly found that this was mixed within a “mixing bowl” or skull and then drunk as an Elixir of Life and that this had then come down to us as one of the elements of the Holy Grail.

As snake venom is by dry weight 90% protein, the substance was also made into a “stone” or pill. We also found that snake venom has psychoactive properties which induce altered states of consciousness and mystical experiences, much akin to those needed for the true enlightenment experience. It was therefore seen physically as a method of meeting with the “gods”.

Another side effect of taking the snake venom is the genetic malformations created by the huge amounts of protein and one of these malformations is cranial – thereby elongating the skull, just as those we found on Malta. “

Why wouldn’t those who can never have enough do everything possible to silence relevant discoveries in this area?

Sol I have never heard of this before but I find it fascinating.Thanks for bringing it to my attention and to you others for your input.

shadows

My daily intake includes the following, Magnesium Citrate, Titanium Dioxide, Korean Panax Ginseng, Ginkgo Biloba, Iron Bisglycinate, Ecenacia.

These are store bought health suppliments, they contain amongst other things, silica, not silicone.

If you go ingesting heavy metals made from contaminated sea water mixed with lye then you are really doing your body a hell of a lot more harm than good. Ormus and its claims of being 100% natural and made from pure sources is laughable when you consider how much pollution gets dumped into the sea year in and year out, industrial chemicals, chemical waste not to mention human excrement.

Potassium is used as an industrial weed killer, likewise to a lot of the chemicals this process suppossedly refines and makes safe, Boron, Silicone and other such heavy elements are not safe to consume in any form, M-State or otherwise.

IT DOES NOT CURE AIDS AND IT DOES NOT CURE CANCER!

Being a avid gardener I know of another thing that makes plants grow, I spread it on my roses every year, I wouldnt put it in a glass and drink it!

Iridium in some cases is classed as a radioactive isotope, a childs chemistry book can classify how dangerous it is to consume this murky rubbish.

If you want it for your flowers in your garden, then by all means buy it for that, but if you consume it why not save yourself the time and just go straight for a bottle of weedol.

People taking it and experianing a possitive effect are experiancing a placebo, they think its doing them good when in fact its doing them harm and anything people have to say to the contrary falls on deaf ears.

If your looking to consume gold, why not buy a bottle of Goldshlager.

I cant believe some of the chemicals in Ormus, Mercury, Platinum, I mean Woha! Mercury causes your cells to degenerate not regenerate!

Mercury poisoning (also known as mercurialism, hydrargyria, Hunter-Russell syndrome, or acrodynia when affecting children) is a disease caused by exposure to mercury or its toxic compounds. Mercury is a cumulative heavy metal poison which occurs in its elemental form, inorganically as salts, or organically as organomercury compounds; the three groups vary in effects due to differences in their absorption and metabolism, among other factors. However, with sufficient exposure all mercury-based toxins damage the central nervous system and other organs or organ systems such as the liver or gastrointestinal tract.

Symptoms typically include sensory impairment (vision, hearing, speech), disturbed sensation and a lack of coordination. The type and degree of symptoms exhibited depend upon the individual toxin, the dose, and the method and duration of exposure.

Definition

Heavy metal poisoning is the toxic accumulation of heavy metals in the soft tissues of the body.

Description

Heavy metals are chemical elements that have a specific gravity (a measure of density) at least five times that of water. The heavy metals most often implicated in accidental human poisoning are lead, mercury, arsenic, and cadmium. More recently, thallium has gained some attention in the media as the poison used in several murder cases in the 1990s. Some heavy metals, such as zinc, copper, chromium, iron, and manganese, are required by the body in small amounts, but these same elements can be toxic in larger quantities.

Heavy metals may enter the body in food, water, or air, or by absorption through the skin. Once in the body, they compete with and displace essential minerals such as zinc, copper, magnesium, and calcium, and interfere with organ system function. People may come in contact with heavy metals in industrial work, pharmaceutical manufacturing, and agriculture. Children may be poisoned as a result of playing in contaminated soil. Lead poisoning in adults has been traced to the use of lead-based glazes on pottery vessels intended for use with food, and contamination of Ayurvedic and other imported herbal remedies. Arsenic and thallium have been mixed with food or beverages to attempt suicide or poison others.

Another form of mercury poisoning that is seen more and more frequently in the United States is self-injected mercury under the skin. Some boxers inject themselves with mercury in the belief that it adds muscle bulk. Metallic mercury is also used in folk medicine or religious rituals in various cultures. These practices increase the risk of mercury poisoning of children in these ethnic groups or subcultures.

Causes and symptoms

Symptoms will vary, depending on the nature and the quantity of the heavy metal ingested. Patients may complain of nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, headache, sweating, and a metallic taste in the mouth. Depending on the metal, there may be blue-black lines in the gum tissues. In severe cases, patients exhibit obvious impairment of cognitive, motor, and language skills. The expression "mad as a hatter" comes from the mercury poisoning prevalent in 17th-century France among hatmakers who soaked animal hides in a solution of mercuric nitrate to soften the hair.

Diagnosis

Heavy metal poisoning may be detected using blood and urine tests, hair and tissue analysis, or x ray. The diagnosis is often overlooked, however, because many of the early symptoms of heavy metal poisoning are nonspecific. The doctor should take a thorough patient history with particular emphasis on the patient's occupation.

In childhood, blood lead levels above 80 ug/dL generally indicate lead poisoning, however, significantly lower levels (>30 ug/dL) can cause mental retardation and other cognitive and behavioral problems in affected children. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention considers a blood lead level of 10 ug/dL or higher in children a cause for concern. In adults, symptoms of lead poisoning are usually seen when blood lead levels exceed 80 ug/dL for a number of weeks.

Blood levels of mercury should not exceed 3.6 ug/dL, while urine levels should not exceed 15 ug/dL. Symptoms of mercury poisoning may be seen when mercury levels exceed 20 ug/dL in blood and 60 ug/dL in urine. Mercury levels in hair may be used to gauge the severity of chronic mercury exposure.

Since arsenic is rapidly cleared from the blood, blood arsenic levels may not be very useful in diagnosis. Arsenic in the urine (measured in a 24-hour collection following 48 hours without eating seafood) may exceed 50 ug/dL in people with arsenic poisoning. If acute arsenic or thallium poisoning is suspected, an x ray may reveal these substances in the abdomen (since both metals are opaque to x rays). Arsenic may also be detected in the hair and nails for months following exposure.

Cadmium toxicity is generally indicated when urine levels exceed 10 ug/dL of creatinine and blood levels exceed 5 ug/dL.

Thallium poisoning often causes hair loss (alopecia), numbness, and a burning sensation in the skin as well as nausea, vomiting, and dizziness. As little as 15-20 mg of thallium per kilogram of body weight is fatal in humans; however, smaller amounts can cause severe damage to the nervous system.

Treatment

When heavy metal poisoning is suspected, it is important to begin treatment as soon as possible to minimize long-term damage to the patient's nervous system and digestive tract. Heavy metal poisoning is considered a medical emergency, and the patient should be taken to a hospital emergency room.

The treatment for most heavy metal poisoning is chelation therapy. A chelating agent specific to the metal involved is given either orally, intramuscularly, or intravenously. The three most common chelating agents are calcium disodium edetate, dimercaprol (BAL), and penicillamine. The chelating agent encircles and binds to the metal in the body's tissues, forming a complex; that complex is then released from the tissue to travel in the bloodstream. The complex is filtered out of the blood by the kidneys and excreted in the urine. This process may be lengthy and painful, and typically requires hospitalization. Chelation therapy is effective in treating lead, mercury, and arsenic poisoning, but is not useful in treating cadmium poisoning. To date, no treatment has been proven effective for cadmium poisoning. Thallium poisoning is treated with a combination of Prussian blue (potassium ferric hexacyanoferrate) and a diuretic, because about 35% of it is excreted in the urine; however, if treatment is not started within 72 hours of ingesting the poisoning, damage to the patient's nervous system may be permanent.

In cases of acute mercury, arsenic, or thallium ingestion, vomiting may be induced. Activated charcoal may be given in cases of thallium poisoning. Washing out the stomach (gastric lavage) may also be useful. The patient may also require treatment such as intravenous fluids for such complications of poisoning as shock, anemia, and kidney failure.

Patients who have taken arsenic, thallium, or mercury in a suicide attempt will be seen by a psychiatrist as part of emergency treatment.

Prognosis

The chelation process can only halt further effects of the poisoning; it cannot reverse neurological damage already sustained.

Prevention

Because arsenic and thallium were commonly used in rat and insect poisons at one time, many countries have tried to lower the rate of accidental poisonings by banning the use of heavy metals in pest control products. Thallium was banned in the United States as a rodent poison in 1984. As a result, almost all recent cases of arsenic and thallium poisoning in the United States were deliberate rather than accidental.

Take half a tea-spoon of salt add it to a glass, take a drop of distilled white malt vinigar add it to the glass and add hot filtered water.

You can drink it straight away!

But thats not what the ancients where referring to.

Not to offend all the Alchemists out their but heres my view, Sal ammoniac, a rare mineral composed of ammonium chloride, NH4Cl. It forms colorless to white to yellow-brown crystals in the isometric-hexoctahedral class. It has very poor cleavage and a brittle to conchoidal fracture. It is quite soft, with a Mohs hardness of 1.5 to 2, and has a low specific gravity of 1.5. It is water-soluble.

Sal ammoniac is also the archaic name for the chemical compound ammonium chloride; from Greek, ἅλς ἀμμωνιακός hals ammoniakos, salt of Ammon, because of its early manufacture in Egypt.

However in its current state it is a deadly toxin.

Ammonium Chloride

Ammonium chloride (sal ammoniac) is a common method of generating smoke on stage and outdoors. The smoke is created by heating the ammonium chloride. Air sampling studies have found large concentrations of ammonium chloride, in some instances near the OSHA PEL for nuisance dusts. Air sampling studies have also shown that some decomposition of the ammonium chloride to hydrogen chloride occurs during this heating. The hydrogen chloride dissolves in water in the respiratory system to produce hydrochloric acid, a respiratory irritant. The levels of hydrochloric acid are much smaller than caused by the zinc chloride smoke devices, but are still high enough to cause concern. It is not recommended that ammonium chloride be used indoors or in enclosed spaces.

The whole procedure for manufacturing gold utilising the salt of ammon can be found in the Leyden Papyrus. Located here:

http://www.clericus.org/etexts/Leyden%20...

Manufacturing the philosophers stone would in my opinion involve Silver (the Moon) and Gold (the Sun) I dont think they used the Salt of Ammon (Arsnic) in the process. Tellurium though, thats a thought!

If you mix .9999% fine gold with .9999% fine silver what is the name of the metal formed?

It is already well documented that;

In nature, gold most often occurs in its native state (that is, as a metal), though usually alloyed with silver. Native gold contains usually eight to ten percent silver, but often much more — alloys with a silver content over 20% are called electrum. As the amount of silver increases, the color becomes whiter and the specific gravity becomes lower.

See this link;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrum

When some bright spark invents an electrum drink made from pure .9999% electrum (Gold & Silver), now that I will buy and drink. Other than that I will just have to resort the the crucible and make my own philosphers stone. (sigh)

Even HERMES the wise said it, they see it everyday and do not know it, of course they did, it was in the coinage of the time!

The human body generates its own electrical charge, the AURA if you will and it's seems pretty obvious that this is what old hermes was refering to.

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/ripsecreti... this link is to a site i found while transversing the net. it is a guide on how to make said material you are looking for