Capabilities of mad - insane - mentally ill humans

This makes me afraid of any one who has mental illness and what they may be capable of doing it left unmonitored. It scares me, especially when I had a friend who kept wanting me to die with them. I got scared and wondered if they would grab the steering wheel of the car when I was driving. Mental illness, it is terrible what it does to others. Some how there needs to be a better way to keep people under control though. Mental illness may be the initial cause for something like this, but, to ask to pardon this because of it is not right. There needs to be something in our system in place for preventive measures some how.

I woke up today with this on my computer front-page from an overnight ???? This is the gist of the story and I am in shock, I can't imagine this in a court room. In the old days she would have just been lynched. I do not know about our justice system. Anyway, here you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent, not the other way around. But, how could this woman expect anything to help her with saving her from any repercussions from killing an expectant mother and cutting her baby from her womb ----kidnapping and killing ---the next day showing off the newborn as her own...she wiped her eyes and her attorney placed his hand on her shoulder when the jury announced the death penalty.. The attorney asks for mercy and to spare her life on behalf of her family that loves her yet uses this as her defense : that emotional and sexual abuse from her family caused mental illness and that is why she killed ....What all kind of twisted love is that and why would any one think her life should be spared after her doing what she did? It is very dumb....I was so shocked to read this , that a defense would play on that and anyone would try to save this woman for what? Make car tags or something in an assembly line? wow...

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earthling's picture
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Indeed, metally ill people have done terrible things. Look for the bir personalities in hitory, and you will find plenty of examples.

But also be aware - the psychiratic industry and the associated drug companies say that 25% of americans have mental problems. Not emotional problems, not temporary stuff. But medically significant mental problems, that require treatment. And most significantly, they require medication.

Now, having met many thousands of americans, I simply do not believe that.

So I say, the medical profession is not always very professional in this respect.

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If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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Colette M. Dowell's picture
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Pharmaceutical companies just want to sell drugs most of the time.
What I am talking about here, and maybe I did not make myself clear is this:

The woman claims she killed because she is mentally ill by means of family abuse, sexual and all of that. Then she asks for mercy for her life so her family that loves her do not feel grief. The family that loves her abused her and made her a mental case that turns out to kill. That is twisted some how to me and a far fetched plea.
I do not think she should have asked that or maybe said that. Maybe thought of something else to say, but, not that.

As far as death penalty, who can ask for the lady and her baby back, what about her loved ones? I understand maybe the death penalty is wrong - at times - at other times it is appropriate. I would never trust this person again and she will have a hard time in prison too from this. It was not nice to read on the frontpage today. I think it was gross for me to read and I reacted to it for many reasons.

Sure a lot of us have passing emotional problems, I think every one does at some point in their life. I think meds can help at that time until they can get their mind together and recover. Some people have definite disorders - bi-polar- aspergers, skizo - yak yak yak and medication helps them tremendously. I am in favor of that. I am not in favor of drug companies pushing meds off to doctors and the indications for taking the meds are if you are in lack of sleep for 10 days or more and you are depressed. No, that is usually circumstantial conditions that can change in time and a person gets better. When a long term illness is held out of check, people do go nuts and do really weird things. This is a very violent act and was premeditated. There was coherency involved in that and a cognitive function. Well, it is a terrible thing and I just find it hard to believe that she tries to get off for family love when the family supposedly abused her, that is not love.

Hey Earthling, aren't you in Germany or ???

Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
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earthling's picture
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I'm not in Germany now. used to live there, and I visit sometimes. It is not a bad place these days, but of course that is a matter of taste. As Johnny Carson used to say quite aptly, "your mileage may vary".

Back to your point, yes there are entire families that basically belong in jail. Or at least in a closed medical facility.

As for the death penalty - for me there are 2 deal breakers.
One for the death penalty and one against. Both cold and rational.

Against: whatever the standard of proof is, to convict someone to the point of killing them, we will make mistakes. And thus kill innocent people.

For: there are some criminals who are so dangerous that society really cannot afford to have them around, no matter how long.

And then again, back to the medical profession. No, they cannot fix this kind of problem. There are people who are not sick, they are just mean. Making them docile is just like making them into senseless sleeping animals. That is not a solution.

Medication and sedation, yes. But really, 1 or 2 beers have prevented many crimes. 1000 or 2000 beers have caused many crimes.

It is not a new problem, and I don't think we really have new solutions.

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If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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Colette M. Dowell's picture
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I love Germany, but, I did not live there all of the time. Every place has its bad things. Germany, I would put up with any bad thigns there that goes on to live there. I like it in many ways better then the US and they have much better yogurt and bread for sure...........Germany is a very clean nation and I was so impressed by that. I like all of the hot baths.Badhaus,Weisbaten,...wonderful....and the Hansel and Gretal style homes and towns/villages
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
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www.robertschoch.net