2017: Year of the Grail (Epi-Blogue)

The following is an excerpt (#20 of 20) from:

"Jesus Among the Julio-Claudians"
copyright 2017 Charles N. Pope

Previous attempts at understanding the “Holy Grail” have been frustrated by a general lack of understanding of royal culture. That has now been largely remedied and we can finally achieve a satisfying resolution to the age old “Mystery of the Gospel.” In short, the royal family was responsible for creating messianic figures in every era. Jesus was simply one in a long line of royal set-men.

Around the turn of the year (2017), I came up with the basic concept for comparing the Julio-Claudian dynasty with that of the Ptolemies. I had already done extensive study of both periods in years past. However, many of the details presented in this new study were figured out on the fly (over the past several months as the forum posts were being made). After taking a short break, I’ll likely produce a longer work later this year and make that available.

In the meantime, the following chart can be used for a handy reference to the associations made in this blog series.

Julius Caesar/Emperor Yuan = neo-Alexander III (“The Great”)/Chandra-Gupta

Pompey = neo-Darius III/Oxyathres/Perdiccas

Crassus = neo-Artaxerxes III/Seleucus

Octavius/Augustus = neo-Antiochus I/Ochos

Caesarion/Jihonika = neo-Alexander IV/Antigonus Gonatus/Bindusara

Tiberius = neo-Ptolemy Epigone/Onias

Marc Antony = neo-Ptolemy I (Soter)

Herod the Great = neo-Heracles/Ptolemy Ceraunus

Gaius Caesar = neo-Ptolemy III/Ashoka/Emperor Qin Shi Huangdi
(but later replaced in the role by Lucius Caesar/Emperor Guangwu)

Lucius Caesar = neo-Antiochus III/Xiang Yu
(role usurped by Caesarion/Drusus I/Sejanus)

Germanicus/Emperor Wang Mang = neo-Philip V/Emperor Gaozu
(see note below)

Drusus II = neo-Prince Alexander (posthumous son of Ptolemy II)
(see note below)

Caligula = neo-Ptolemy IV (first 4 years)

Nero = neo-Ptolemy IV (final 13 years)

Torquatus /Kujula Kadphises/Emperor Ming = neo-Ptolemy V & VI/Emperors Wen & Jing

Agrippa II/Herodian = neo-Ptolemy VII

Galba/Lepidus (the Younger) = neo-Ptolemy VIII

Otho/Aristobulus= neo-Ptolemy D/Zoilos/Emperor Wudi

Nerva/Josephus/Vima Kadphises = neo-Ptolemy IX

Hyrcanus/Josue/Kanishka/Emperor An = neo-Ptolemy X

Note: Although Drusus II was younger than Germanicus and was logically in the role of Philip V, it was Drusus II that fulfilled representative elements from the life of Philip V (such as turning against and “striking” the Antiochus the Great figure). Conversely, Germanicus was patterned more after the wide-ranging Prince Alexander of early Ptolemaic times. These roles were essentially crossed, and even as the younger prince, Torquatus, took on the role of mild-mannered Ptolemy VI while the older prince, Galba, was patterned after the aggressive Ptolemy VIII. The important thing was that all of the major roles were played.

Note: Pompey or Cinna likely had a very brief stint as a pharaoh (Ptolemy XI).

Note: Crassus was also known as Ptolemy XII.

Previous blog in the series:

First blog in the series:

The prequel "Heroes of the Hellenistic Age" is posted at the page below: http://www.domainofman.com/boards/index....


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Lorenzo Baehne's picture
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I’ve not read all of these posts of yours, Charles. From what little I have read, however, it seems that at least part of your thesis is the holy grail is a reference to some manner of royal or dynastic line of succession. Specifically a line of Jewish royalty, and that Jesus was in that line. Is this correct?

Charles Pope's picture
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Yes, it is difficult today for us to appreciate just how totalitarian royal culture once had been. And, it turns out that it was far more totalitarian than even imagined. They directly controlled Judaism as well as other major religious cults. They were also the custodians of knowledge, at least what little still remained of our "care package" from the gods.