News Briefs 19-05-2008

Scarily late news - like the White Rabbit, rollerblading on a mobius strip.

Thanks Rick and Greg.

Quote of the Day:

One trend that bothers me is the glorification of stupidity, that the media is reassuring people it's alright not to know anything. That to me is far more dangerous than a little pornography on the Internet.

Carl Sagan

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bladerunner's picture
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My husband and I had don't have children. Even before we meet we felt our breeding wasn't a great idea for biological, and emotional reasons. My great-grandmother was swept up in the eugenics program. 15 and having a child out of wedlock, she was given a hysterectomy. But oddly enough kept my grandmother, which was very strange, for the times. All this being said about my choices, and my great-grandmother non-choice. Some people should not be reproducing. Idiots and those with genetic diseases. We manage the breeding of plants and animals, and leave the whole thing up to chance with the human race. My husband and I know a couple who after their first child was born with a terrible genetic disease, had two more! 2 of their 3 children will die before 10, and will forever be infants, their church, insurance and community should have supported them not having any more. And I say cheers to those women who selected the fathers of their children in a "genius sperm bank".

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This is definitely a difficult topic. What would have happened if Stephen Hawking's parents had been advised against having a child if the medical science at that time had been advanced enough to predict the serious physical discapacity he is currently suffering?

I think personally that the only people that shouldn't have children are the ones that would end up being abusive or unloving parents—I personally would favor a PARENT licensing of sorts— but physical attributes shouldn't be an impediment.

I sometimes taunt my parents about all the "bad genes" they passed on to me, but I also know that with the bad there was also some not-so-bad ;-)

PS: One of my favoite movies about all this: "Gattaca".

PPs: Another movie to the point; "I am Sam" :-)

PPS: Oh! And how could I forget this other fine example? :-)
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PPPS: Try Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood: http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm

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Man, I went to the main page of that website, and THANK GOD my computer has headphones! :-)

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I didn't notice - my speakers are usually off.

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Carl Sagan said this some years ago, I don't know when. But as he has been dead for a while, it was not last month.

Still, It reminds be of some dangerous trends. There are a large number of people who are proud of not knowing things. As if they had little servants to do those things for them, and that makes them (the ignorant ones) superior.

I can't sing, I have never made fire by rubbing a bunch of sticks together, I probably can't make a decent bow and arrow weapon. But I don't know why anyone would be proud of being unable to do things.

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if everything is under control, you are not going fast enough (Mario Andretti)

it's not how fast you go, it's who gets there first

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In the middle ages a noble distinguished him or herself from the peasants by paleness of skin and body fat: signs that as a noble he or she didn't have to expose to the sun working the fields, and had plenty of food.

The signs of nobility now is kind of the opposite: tan skin and a good physique; signs that you can go to the beach & the gym often.

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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

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I am pale AND fat... I'd be looked up too.. no.. wait..

I'm short too.

but you are right redpill

alas.. I have no class now lol

xoxo

marissa

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My dermatologist prescribes me these sun blockers and I can't help to think is such a waste of money. I NEVER see the sun!

And eventhough I pay to go to a gym (one of the few luxuries in my life) most days I'm so tired and fed up after work, that I prefer to go home and let my waistline get broader :-(

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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

Red Pill Junkie

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I finally got out of my gym membership when my credit card expiration date happened, and I didn't give them the updated information.

I predict that a really high price of gasoline and diesel will lead to weight loss in many urban areas.

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if everything is under control, you are not going fast enough (Mario Andretti)

it's not how fast you go, it's who gets there first

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I predict that a really high price of gasoline and diesel will lead to weight loss in many urban areas.

I would have my doubts about that. Here in Mexico the car is a sacred thing, city planners have been highly unsuccesful in convincing the citizens to gve up their cars in favor of public transportation or using a bike. The bike is inefficient because of the long distances, and public transportation is sloppy, uncomfortable and unsafe—one of the favorite pastime of thugs is getting aboard buses and assault the passengers.

This is my every-day reality. And it gets worse on Saturdays.

Even if gasoline prices would continue to rise, people would relent other things first, like buying clothes or going to the movies. But in a single family houselhold of 3-4 persons, having two cars is almost mandatory.

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It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

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we are so programmed in the media today to always be dissatisfied with who we are, what we can or cannot do. Let's face it, some things are just NOT on our list of things to do.

We all have different things we can do. I can't sing either...

:-(

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"White Rabbit rollerblading on a Moebius Strip" -- I love this image so much, it's inspired me to draw it. Thanks Kat! Might be a while until you see the pic though, I haven't drawn anything for a looong time.

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I wanna see.. what a great visual!

I am getting back into my art too...and boy am I rusty.

Keep on keeping on!

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A friend of mine (hi, Jake) owns a painting that I've wanted a copy of ever since the first time I saw it.

Think stylistically of advertisments for Circuses in the early 1900s, and old-fashioned double-edged razor blades. Two huge razor blades are each set on a sharp edge and angled toward the distance in the center, forming approximately the lower third of the painting. A male circus performer is balancing on a unicycle on the top edge of the right blade, and a female circus performer (facing the viewer) is balancing on a unicycle on the top edge of the left blade. They're both holding umbrellas in their right hands for balance, and they're pedaling toward each other, each with their left hand outstretched to the other, almost about to touch.

I don't remember if the painting had a titled, but if it did, it was something like Romance. Fitting, huh?

Kat

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In the process of cleaning my bedroom, I can testify to rubbish and its interesting facets.

I am not sure I would want to be defined by my rubbish though.

I think if anyone in the vast future excavated our global garbage they would agree on how wasteful and materialistic we are.

We are getting better, after all, most of my garbage is being recycled.

xox

marissa

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I predict that in less than 100 years companies will be mining for our current trash, to extract all the valuable materials.

Maybe some people find this funny, but I am actually serious.

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if everything is under control, you are not going fast enough (Mario Andretti)

it's not how fast you go, it's who gets there first

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It's happening as we speak. In citizens cities like Tel-Aviv trash is a valuable commodity.

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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

Red Pill Junkie

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Now I know you meant to type "cities" as opposed to "citizens".

But still, at some point companies will be mining graveyards. Especially for metals like mercury, lead, or gold. Those and a lot more interesting stuff is just in the teeth of people.

I just hope they don't mine people who are still alive. Although it has happened.

Another thought that is perhaps silly.

Why don't we recycle dust, collected by vacuum cleaners? Most of it is organic matter, like discarded human skin, dust mites, parts of carpets, insects too small to see.

This can be made into fuels I am sure. There are companies who turn leftover turkey parts and chicken parts in to fuel oil. It is just a matter of heat and pressure. The organic dust should work too.

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if everything is under control, you are not going fast enough (Mario Andretti)

it's not how fast you go, it's who gets there first

red pill junkie's picture
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Sorry for the typo! It wasn't anti-semitism, just plain common stupidity :-)

So collecting dust to make fuels, eh? That would make people with dandruff problems more happy with themselves ;-)

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It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

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I think it safe to say that 90% of our manufactured needs could be met by recycling, if industry seriously adopted it.
What effect it would have on our economy, I'm not sure. But the time WILL certainly come.

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Wise people usually begin as stupid ones

Anthony North

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A product's economic value should be affected by its capacity to be recicled or re-used. Cell phones are one of the most polluting objects because it's difficult to re-use the toxic chemicals of its components, and yet the business of the phone companies lies in offering them for free to the consumers that accept a long-term contract.

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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

Red Pill Junkie

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We just need to apply external energy sources to the recycling. And of course, we need to make it worthwhile, money-wise. But yes, it will happen.

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if everything is under control, you are not going fast enough (Mario Andretti)

it's not how fast you go, it's who gets there first

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>>But still, at some point companies will be mining graveyards. Especially for metals like mercury, lead, or gold.

They already do mine graveyards -- see all the holes in this photo? It's called looting, and it's a $6 billion-a-year industry, done by antiquities traders (even if they do 'contract out' the initial dirty work).

Mining graveyards isn't a new phenomenon -- it's been a major industry for all cultures ever since the first dead human was buried with a prized possession.

Kat

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Indeed this has been going on for a long time, and is going on now. What that article refers to are high value, concentrated things. Especially the art work, which is of no practical use.

There is a progression from robbing a small number of high value objects, to collecting a large number of low value targets. A simplification, I know.

I also read a few fun science fiction stories, where some poor village people got sent back to the past with some nice guns. They were told to shoot a large number of Mammoths, so that the ivory traders could find the ivory all in one place. The story was that trade in current ivory was prohibited, but ancient ivory was ok.

If you are still with me, I don't think the ancient sites are mined for the quantity of gold or silver or other things. It is just sicko art people.

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if everything is under control, you are not going fast enough (Mario Andretti)

it's not how fast you go, it's who gets there first