Were all the pharoahs of Cushite blood ?

History has somewhat been unjust to the Egyptians, I had a coversation the other day with a person from the Israelite faith in my community and all can be said was how bad the Egyptians were. But if you look through the biblical times a few of the great leaders of the bible had some connection to this pariah country. Moses, Jacob, Yeshua and the list can go on. Was this so bad, the bible mention the Egyptians as enemies of The God of Jacob.Were they all from Cushite descendants.

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in the past couple of years that the Israelites and the Egyptians were the same people.
If this is so then it certainly explains a lot of things.

Does anyone have any up to day info on this? Like Pam, for instance,our own private researcher?

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Excerpt from this link
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/arti...

According to the Bible the ancient Egyptians were descended from Ham through the line of Mizraim. Ham had four sons: Cush, Mizraim, Phut, and Canaan (Genesis 10:6). The name "Mizraim" is the original name given for Egypt in the Hebrew Old Testament. Many Bibles will have a footnote next to the name "Mizraim" explaining that it means "Egypt." The name "Egypt" itself actually comes to us from the Greeks who gave the Land that name (i.e. "Aegyptos" from the Greek). In addition to the name "Mizraim," the ancient Egyptians also referred to their land as "Kemet" which means "Land of the Blacks." Western historians, however, say that the word "Kemet" refers to the color of the soil of the land rather than its people. But, the word "Kemet" is actually an ethnic term being a derivative of the word "Khem" (Cham or Ham) which means "burnt" or "black." Ham, who was one of the three sons of Noah and the direct ancestor of the Egyptians, was black. The Bible, in the Old Testament, repeatedly refers to Egypt as the "Land of Ham" (i.e., Psalm 105:23, 27; 106:22). Regarding the ancient Egyptians, there is also considerable historical evidence, aside from the Holy Bible, that they were of Black or Negro origin. Even today the true Egyptian is not to be found in the cities but in the country sides and farmlands of Egypt. Most of the Egyptians in the cities carry a mixed ancestry of European and Asian, but mostly Asian from the immigration and invasions of various people into Egypt throughout the centuries. Very few people realize that Cleopatra was of Greek origin because the Greeks once ruled Egypt and she was descended from one of those Greek rulers. The true Egyptian found in the countryside, however, has dark brown to black skin and very pronounced Negro features. This is particularly true the further south one travels in Egypt. It was from the south that the original pharaohs and the people of Egypt settled the land. The original rulers and builders of Egyptian civilization were of completely Black or Negro origin.

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http://www.suneagle1.com/

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{9}There should be no doubt by now as to a genetic and cultural link between the Hamitic Kushites and the Semitic Israelites. This connection will later be realized during the time of the Achaemenid Empire. Was it not Cyrus the Great who was born under a death sentence only to be saved to become the leader who freed the Israelites from Babylon! Was it not also Cyrus the Great who became a lawgiver! Was it not also at the time of Cyrus the Great; that Ahmose II was the king in Egypt! Did Moses borrow his name from someone else or was Moses really someone else?
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This is terrific! There are 18 pages on that first link alone so I will take a while to read it all.

Well done faithful researcher!

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http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/article... -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.

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THE PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGY OF
THE HEBREW PEOPLES
by Yair Davidiy
http://britam.org/anthropology.html -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.

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Pam those pics are fantastic! I have never seen most of them and I look at a lot of this stuff.

Thanks,

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We live and learn shadows! Something new everyday, helps keep the old grey matter from turning to hay. You never know what you will turn up, but that is the fun of it, for me anyway. Love, Pam -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrocentrism -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.

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Excerpt from Halexandria - Episode XII -- From Moses to Cleopatra

http://www.halexandria.org/dward733.htm As prelude, we should recall the circumstances, circa 1440 B.C.E. involving the Exodus of the Hebrews from Egypt, the end of the Middle Kingdom of Egypt, the wandering in the wilderness (where in typical patriarchal fashion, none of the males were willing to ask for directions), and finally Moses doing his Mount Sinai gig. -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.

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Hi Pam,

As you probably realise, the 'britam.org' site editors are proponents of british-israelism theory (the theory that the main ancestors of Britain and the US were descended from the lost tribes of Israel, as per D.H. (Dead Herbert) W. Armstrong's position and his Worldwide church of Gog and Magog.

As such, I'd tend to take their espousals with a pinch of salt, a slice of lemon and two or moreso bottles of tequila (whether wormed or unwormed).

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http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/BBC's%20High%20Tech%20Jesus.htm -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.

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Pam

This is a very good link!

What do you think?

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Shadows

But, the Israelites were probably related to the Hyskos also! Furthermore, the roots of the Hebrew Religion are probably of Egyptian origin. Let us understand that Abram/Abraham, in its evolved form, did not practice the Hebrew Religion, presuming that there was an Abram/Abraham. There was, however, a cultural difference between the Southern Kingdom Judea and both the Egyptians and the Northern Kingdom of Israel. In the Northern Kingdom of Israel they worshiped a Golden Calf and had a religion that both borrowed from and was very similar to the Cannanite Religion that worshiped Baal.

What do you think?

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Your right Ken there were many cults/religions who worshiped a bovine type statue. That's a whole other topic and a bunch of other links! -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.

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Pam

The Pharoes of Egypt predated the Cushites by centuries. So, unless you argue that the Cushites were decendents of Pharoes, how can it be argued that all Pharoes were Cushites when Pharoes predate Cushites and when there was more than one dynasty of Pharoes?

Maybe, I don't understand this blog! If not, please enlighten me!

What do you think?

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Hi Ken,
I was just trying to establish a timeline/bloodline history for the question "Were all the pharoahs of Cushite blood." My answer is no, the Cushite people per se came later. The highlands going down the Nile through present day Sudan then Egypt (north towards the Delta spilling into the Mediterranean) the people moved, expanded the empire and created the dynasty of the Egyptians.

Who were the Cushite?
500–600

The interior was not yet greatly involved with the coastal commerce. The most important changes in the interior in this period concerned the introduction of the banana and the development of highland agriculture based on it, and the spread of iron technology. The dominant groups (in terms of language) were the Cushites, who had entered the region between 3000 and 2000 B.C.E., and the Bantu, who had spread through the area in the first centuries C.E. Nilotes, Khoisan, and central Sudanic groups were also present. Cushites were cattle keepers and grain cultivators, while Bantu peoples practiced forest agriculture based on the yam, and therefore were concentrated in the wetter regions. During this period they began to adopt cattle and grain agriculture from their neighbors in the eastern part of the region. By the 7th century, Bantu dialects were diverging, indicating an end to the great sweep of migration and expansion by separate groups within more limited areas. 1

500–1000

The interlacustrine region saw a buildup of population along the western and southwestern shores of Lake Victoria, leading to expansion to the northwest and north, settling the protopopulations of later communities such as the Ganda, Soga, Nkore, and Bunyoro. Iron tools slowly expanded in the interior, supplanting the earlier stone technology. Bantu groups made iron tools from the beginning of the Christian era. Such tools were also acquired in coastal trade by Cushites. 2
The processes leading to the development of Swahili culture on the coast accelerated in this period. Most important were the expansion of trade, the emergence of urban centers on the coast, and the beginnings of Islamic influence. The monsoon winds of the northern Indian Ocean region and the equatorial current, flowing south along the coast from Somalia, facilitated development of maritime trade linking India, Persia, southern Arabia, and the East Africa coast from the era of the Greek and Roman Empires. 3

650–800

Maritime trade was greatly stimulated by the growth of the Arab Islamic Empire beginning in the 7th century. The East African coast began to export new goods, and coastal towns grew and fell on the strength of the trade. Islam came with small numbers of immigrant merchants from Arabia and Persia from the 8th century, most of whom settled on offshore islands. Islam was slowly adopted by coastal Africans involved in trade but did not become dominant until the 12th century. However, the influence of the immigrant traders led to the absorption of a large number of Arabic loanwords into the developing indigenous language, Swahili, in the Bantu group, and to the use of Arabic script for writing Swahili. 4

800–1000

Many coastal urban centers emerged during the 9th and 10th centuries, but most did not become prominent until the 11th century. 5

850–1000

A new type of agriculture emerged toward the end of this period, practiced on the highland slopes of the Pare Mountains by the proto-Chagga (a blend of Nilotes, Cushites, and Bantu) and based on intensive cultivation of bananas, probably introduced by Indonesian traders. Bananas also spread in this period from the south to the interlacustrine region and to Mt. Elgon.

http://www.bartleby.com/67/347.html

I wasn't quite ready for the aspect of their religion/cult worship even though it was their very life center. The centralizing aspect of religion, the festivals, the pagents, their aim in life.

Am I up Cushite creek without a paddle?

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http://www.crystalinks.com/narmer.html
And here
3,100 B.C. - "Scorpion" Rules Egypt - "In the protodynastic period of Egypt 'Scorpion' ruled and was followed by Narmer."

3,100 B.C. - First Dynasty / Egypt - "Traditional date when the two regions of Egypt were believed to have been united under the rule of Narmer [known as Menes, to the Greeks] and the First Egyptian Dynasty was founded. Incidentally, the number of years credited to some kings of the 1st and 2nd Dynasty is so high, that, in those particular cases, they are most likely not correct. It has sometimes been postulated that this high number of years does not reflect the length of a reign but the age at which the king died. Such high numbers for reigning kings also appear in the Sumerian King Lists."

http://mirrorh.com/timelinesum.html

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Pam

Thank-you for your clarification!

What do you think?

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Basically at one stage Israelites did not live or inhabit the land of Eygbt,they were originally from the land of Mesopitamia(Babylon Ur modern day Iraq).Due to the fact that Abraham pbuh.having Ishmael pbuh.the father of the Arabs furst,who was 14 years older then Isaac pbuh.and had had 12 sons straight away,means that the Ishmaelite's had first pick where to settle and thatbwas closer to where Abraham pbuh.was from.Whereas Isaac pbuh.was the 2nd son,14 years younger then Ishmael pbuh.and did not have 12sons straight away that make up the 12 tribes of Israel.It was Jacob pbuh.that had the 12 sons that made up the Israelite 12 tribes.So eventually they had to migrate and did so to Africa occupying one side of the Nile,while the otherside was occupied by the indiginous black african eygbtians.If you kniw the story of Moses pbuh.and how he made it from obe side ofvthe river to the otherside where he was adopted by Pharoah(Who had a dream that an Usraelite will put an end to his kingdom)and his wife.This dream resulted in the Eygbtians slaughtering the male infants and keeping keeping the Israelite women for themselves.Now Pharoah could of made sure all the Israelites would be wiped out by slaughtering the male infants,which did not go well with the interest of Eygbt econmically.So the idea was that they would slaughter the male infants one year(That Moses pbuh. Was born in,resulting in his mother putting him in the cot)and not slaugthering them the next year(Year which Aaron was born).Some Israelites were fathered by Eygbtians and some were not.Full-blooded Israelites still exist tiday in Mesopitamia where they are a minority and theybspeak broken ArBic,vut share the same language as North Afrucans and Ashkenazi,who are also not full-blooded Israelites.The general knowledgevwe are exposed to today cobcerns the fatherside of Pharoah and thae beliefs picked by the ofspring Eygbtian/Israelites then that of the Semetic-Prophetic Israelites.This is what the NWO is as "The Mummy Returns!".

Hope i have been helpful.

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http://www.eyelid.co.uk/dynasty1.htm
And more links
Faces of the Pharaohs
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/31...
Neolithic to 1st Dynasty
http://www.homestead.com/wysinger/neolit...
Morphological micro-evolution of Nubian Populations from, A-Group to Christian Epochs: gene flow, not local adaptation.

Prior to the Neolithic, populations of the Nile Valley in Nubia are very robust, and, because of a gap in the fossil record, it is difficult to connect them to later populations. Some have postulated a local evolution, due to diet change, while others postulated migrations, especially from the Sahara area. But between 5000 and 1000 BC, many cemeteries have supplied a large amount of skeletons, and the anatomical characters of Nubian populations are easier to follow-up. Twenty-seven archaeological samples (4 at 5000 BC, 5 at 4000 BC, 10 at 3000 BC, 3 at 2000 BC, 5 at 1000 BC), and 10 craniofacial measurements, have been considered. While cerebral skull is fairly stable, facial skull displays several regular modifications, and specially a reduction of facial and nasal heights, a broadening of the nose, and an increase of prognathism, while bizygomatic breadth is unchanged. These features illustrate a trend towards a growing resemblance with populations of Sub-Saharan Africa living in wet environments. However, paleoclimatological studies show that Nubia experienced an increasing aridification during that period. It is then unlikely that such a morphological change could be related to any local adaptive evolution to environment. Random drift is also unlikely, because the anatomical trend is relatively uniform during these millennia. It then seems more plausible that these changes correspond to the increasing presence of Southern populations migrating northward.
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Pre-history Africa & the Badarian Culture
http://wysinger.homestead.com/badarians....

Evidence of the Badarians into Pre-historic Egypt (4500-3800 BC)

Professor William M. Finders Petrie

Sudanese Dynasties

From The Making of Egypt, (1939).

Scorpion king of the Anu [Aunu] culture.

"A breath of life came from the Sudan. This southern source was likewise the inspiration of . . ." the 1st, 2nd (Anu),

3rd [Sudanese], 4th, 5th, 12th [Sudanese] dynasties. "The 12th dynasty was undoubtedly descended from Amenemhat, the great vizier of the 11th dynasty. It seems, then, that he married the heiress of the Uah-ka family, as stated in the pseudo-prophecy, "A king shall come from the south whose name is Ameny, son a Nubian woman." She called her son by the family name Senusert, and he was the founder of the 12th dynasty, according to Manetho. The main sources of the 18th dynasty were Nubian and Libyan, depicted black and yellow, but not red of the Egyptians. Ahmos Nefertari was one of their black queens. Her black strain seems to come through the Tao I and II ancestry. The 19th dynasty was a direct mixture of races." Petrie states: "Decay continued in a divided kingdom; Egypt seemed hopeless until a fresh Ethiopian invasion stimulated it, as in earlier instances". This was the beginning of the 25th dynasty.
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http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/people...
The Ancient Egyptian Type in the Flesh

Virtually all Egyptologists and anthropologists agree that the Ancient Egyptians belonged to the same ethnic sub grouping, usually referred to as 'Hamites,' as the Somali, Galla (Oromo), Beja, Afar (Danakil), etc. - peoples of northeast Africa. We would also include the Wolof of Senegal, and of course modern Egyptians of the Nile Valley, especially the Fellaheen or Rural Egyptians, and the Nubians. -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.

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http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/index....

Ancient Egyptian ethnographic "mural of the races" found in the tomb of Rameses III - Monuments from Egypt and Ethiopia by Karl Richard Lepsius (German: "Denkmaler aus Agypten und Athiopian"). French Egyptologist Champollion found similar murals in other royal tombs.

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So, in the end after all these posts and links they (the Egyptian Royal line) are an amalgam. This was a very informative as well as entertaining trek into the past. I will now "give up the ghost" on this topic.

Love, Pam -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.

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http://humphrysfamilytree.com/ca.html

The world

It would seem possible that, even with a lot of geographical separation, the MRCA of the entire world is still within historical times, 3000 BC - 1000 AD.

Quite likely the entire world is descended from the Ancient Egyptian royal house, c. 1600 BC.

We pick them as an example because they left proven descents for centuries, so it seems likely their descents did not die out, and they are ancestors of some people alive today. Hence probably ancestors of all people alive today.

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EGYPT (KEMET):THE DNA SCIENCE, HISTORY AND RACISM REVEALED

By Fahim A. Knight-El

There are two websites named Hall of Maat; Weighing the Evidence of Alternative History and the Graham Hancock website, both seemed to have dedicated part of their discussion forums to the intellectual and scientific research of Kemet (Egypt) and while blogging on the TDG (The Daily Grail) site this writer discovered on the sidebar of the site there was an icon referencing these two above said Internet forums. Thus, this was in late December 2007, I had just web/blog published an article titled, “Christmas—Jesus the Sun God: Lies, Deception and the Truth,” which this controversial subject and topic, had its pundits and apologist debating the article on various Internet websites. One of the above listed forums allowed me to submit the article, but the article was immediately removed—I contacted the webmaster who informed me that it was a matter of a technical glitch and he assured me that article would be reposted. Thus, if my memory serves me correctly, the webmaster was celebrating his birthday in December and was at a social outing, commemorating this occasion with his family and friends, when this writer emailed him. He emailed me back and stated after the outing he would investigate this matter and repost the article. I do not know if the article was ever re-posted. (Reference: Fahim A. Knight; “Christmas—Jesus the Sun God: Lies, Deception and the Truth”).

Cheik Anta Diop in his book titled, “The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality” stated, “Ancient Egypt was a Negro civilization. The history of Black Africa will remain suspended in air and can not be written correctly until African historians dare to connect it with the history of Egypt. In particular, the study of languages, institutions, and so forth, can not be treated properly; in a word, it will be impossible to build African humanities, a body African human sciences, so long as the relationship does not appear legitimate. The African historian who evades the problem of Egypt is neither modest nor objective, nor unruffled; he is ignorant, cowardly, and neurotic. Imagine, if you can, the uncomfortable position of a western historian who was to write the history of Europe without referring to Greco-Latin Antiquity and try that off as a scientific approach.” (Reference: Cheik Anta Diop; “The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality”).

But what struck me about the Hall of Maat and Graham Hancock sites were that they had a body of scholars, scientist, social scientist, laypersons, etc., dedicated to investigating the history, culture and genealogy of ancient Egypt (Kemet). These scholars and researchers seemed to have one common thread relative to ancient Egypt (Kemet), which was disproving that this North East African nation was African (black) in genotypical’ and ‘phenotypical’ terms. There appears to be an academic-led movement, amongst some Caucasian scholars in the United States and Europe, to use a new wave of technology and science which to reevaluate and re-access the genealogy of those who inhabited ancient Egypt (Kemet) by using the availability of DNA testing. (Reference: John G. Jackson; “Man, God, and Civilization”).

This will allow a field of pure science to be the guiding force of re-determining past historical evidence which was once guided mainly by social science that allowed history as a discipline to interact in an interdependency manner with anthropology, archaeology, paleontology, sociology, etc., to validate past events. But according to this new wave of historical research methodology, scholars and scientist argue that it will allow for so-called more reliable objective research findings and provide us with definitive and substantiated evidence in order to tell us more about the original inhabitants of Ancient Egypt (Kemet), which was the original name of Egypt prior to the Greeks, Arabs, British, Assyrians, Turks, and the European invaders occupying and colonizing this North African nation. (Reference: Molefi Kete Asante; “Afrocentricity”).

Wikipedia online research source had this to say about DNA testing concerning Egypt (Kemet), it stated, “Blood typing and DNA sampling on ancient Egyptian mummies is scant; however, blood typing of dynastic mummies found ABO frequencies to be most similar to modern Egyptians and some also to Northern Haratin (Mauritania and Western Sahara—Black Moors) populations. ABO blood group distribution shows that the Egyptians form a sister group to North African populations, including Berbers, Nubians and Canary Islanders. DNA extraction (namely from the 12th dynasty) indicates multiple lines of descent, including sub-Saharan Africa, while the other lineages were not identified, but may be African in origin as well (according to Keita, 1996)”

Some of the most glorious and dynamic history evolved out of Egypt and many alien people and cultures have worked diligently to claim this nation, that has enlightened humanity in the realm of civilization falsely as their own. The historians have attributed the disciplines of architecture, physics, engineering, mathematics, medicine, religion, art, music, science, etc., all originated in ancient Egypt (Kemet) and no doubt this truth is indisputable. This writer, believes that most scholars will not be resistant to any new form of science that will lead us to a higher historical confirmation and evidentiary of scholarly proof in undertaking the ancient people who lived in Egypt, Africa. This writer desires to believe that both scholars and laypersons alike, perhaps could appreciate and somewhat be receptive to this ground breaking efforts of DNA research being applied to re-examining history and Egyptology. However, this writer after thoroughly reviewing Graham Hancock and Hall of Maat websites and the writings of the scholars who submitted articles for posting; He was not left convinced that it was the truth that these scholarly pioneers were pursuing. (Reference:Gerald Massey; “Ancient Egypt the Light of the World”).

This writer can not help, but to question the motive and integrity of these social scientist who are pushing this effort of pure science (DNA testing) as the ultimate determining factor, which to be used to reevaluate ancient Egypt (Kemet) in order to provide us with more definitive and factual information about the race and ethnicity of the pyramid builders. But is there an unspoken, covert and clandestine agenda other than being able to access and use present day technology to enhance the definitiveness of perceived past historical facts. This writer agrees that scientist, social scientist and scholars should be able to use all the available technology at their disposable in order to bring us closer to the genetic truth of the original Egyptians (Kemites). However, perhaps those who are pursing this new historical and scientific investigation type scholarship, which to definitively determine the race and ethnicity of the ancient people who lived in Egypt (Kemet) is bit in genuine and is looking to demystify the notion that these people were of a Negroid strain. (Reference: Cheik Anta Diop; “Civilization Or Barbarism: An Authentic Anthropology”).

This writer believes that the Afrocentric movement in a America had made serious inroads in the areas of promoting historical pluralism and multiculturalism and as a intellectual school of thought and it was they that had to be challenged by those who desired to maintain the status quo. This concept allowed African American scholars and black academicians such as Molefi Asante, John G. Jackson, Cheik Anta Diop, Chancellor Williams, IvanVan Sertima, Amos Wilson, Asa Hilliard, Kobi K. K. Kambon, John Henrik Clarke, Leonard Jefferies, Yosef Ben Jochannon, Frances Cress Welsing, Ishakamus Barashango, Naim Akbar, etc., to redefine history and view Africa as a subject rather than an object, as well as questioning the Eurocentric worldview. (Reference: Ameen Yasir Mohammed “Afrocentricity, Minus Al-Islam, Cheats: Exposing The Conspiracy to Rob African Americans of their Most Precious Heritage”).

Runoko Rashidi stated, “In the intense and unrelenting struggle to establish scientifically the African foundations of Egyptian civilization, the late Senegalese scholar Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop remains a most fierce and ardent champion. Dr. Diop (1923-1986) was without a doubt the world's leading Egyptologist and held the position of Director of the Radiocarbon Laboratory at the Fundamental Institute of Black Africa in Dakar, Senegal. In stating the importance of the work, Diop noted emphatically and early on that, the history of Black Africa will remain suspended in air and cannot be written correctly until African historians dare to connect it with the history of Egypt."

Rashidi goes on to state, “The solid range of methodologies employed by Dr. Diop in the course of his extensive Afro-Egyptian labors included: examinations of the epidermis of the mummies of Egyptian kings for verification of their melanin content; precise osteological measurements and meticulous studies in the various relevant areas of anatomy and physical anthropology; careful examinations and comparisons of modern Upper Egyptian and West African blood-types; detailed Afro-Egyptian linguistic studies and the corroboration of distinct Afro-Egyptian cultural traits; documents of racial designations employed by the early Africans themselves; Biblical testimonies and references that address the ancient Egyptian's ethnicity, race and culture; and the writings of early Greek and Roman travelers and scholars describing the physical characteristics of the ancient Egyptians.”

The advocators of DNA testing and the question of racial determination really have some serious house cleaning to do relative to racial identification and classification standards that were previously established in the United States (more prevalent during the Jim Crow Era 1896-1954)—The 1/8 rule was a standard racial assessment that the white status quo used to determine who would be classified as being black and white, was based on the variable of a person having 1/8 percent of African blood flowing through their veins (this was enough evidence to consider a person black). This writer does not think the 1/8 RULE has ever been appealed and rescinded by the United States Government and the scholars who used it to create HIS—STORY. This flawed classification of race designation be it defacto/dejure practice has never been officially recognized as being wrong and immoral; moreover, THE 1/8 RULE CLASSIFICATION MUST BE DEEMED RACIST and faulty and most of all unscientific. (Reference: Floyd B McKissick; “Three-fifths of a Man’)

Thus, these racist past and present, owe an apology to all of those that were adversely affected and denied Freedom, Justice and Equality because of the 1/8 Rule and this writer is old enough too have heard about this. We shall perhaps never know the total implications and the affect of this unjust racial classification system, had socially, politically and economically on people living in the United States, in particular and the world in general. This writer in reality, could end this topic of ancient Egypt (Kemet) by simple stating that there is little doubt that the original Egyptians (just based on physical appearance) had greater than 1/8 percentage Nubian African-black blood flowing thru their veins—end of discussion and this is not to discount the fact that there were other racial-ethnic miscegenation evidence pointing to a mix race—ancient Egyptian population. (Reference: Sterling Means: “Ethiopia & The Missing Link”).

This intellectual movement is quite bothersome to this writer, because it appears to be another sophisticated stratagem to once again relegate blacks to an inferior role and reposition Africa, in particular sub-Sahara Africa as the dark continent (gave nothing to civilization). No different than how past historians help set the stage for Africa to be raped and robbed by alien peoples and it justified slavery and the Transatlantic slave trade because of this “Dark Continent” myth; Yet, are these scholars hiding behind the newest and latest DNA historical technology, but their primary motivation is racism and the secondary motive is it more of a white supremacy smokescreen hidden under the guise of improving on ancient Egypt’s ethno-racial scholarship by heighten the evidentiary proof relative to getting closer to the truth, as it pertains to race, ethnicity and genealogy of the ancient Egyptians. The Egyptians were intellectual genius possessing the ability to erect the greatest structures ever built by man—the pyramids. These temples may have housed the dead or were the Egyptians teaching us something much more profound about immortality of the soul. These wonders of the world have baffled both social scientist and pure scientist alike for centuries. (Reference: John G. Jackson; “Introduction to African Civilizations and Walter Rodney: “How Europe Underdeveloped Africa’).

The geopolitical and ethno-racial identification and classification of ancient Egypt (Kemet) was thought to be originally inhabited by Nubian blacks. Thus, these new CSI type historians and scientist desire to use DNA testing to determine proof positive the racial identification of the ancient Egyptians. Popular thought and racial classification/identification had systematically categorized the human race in four distinct racial groupings—Negroid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid and, Australoid (this racial classification might-be somewhat outdated, but it set the racial classification standard) in which skeletal physicality were the definitive variable for racial indexing. For example, cranium structure, hair texture, jawbone structure—lips , nose, etc., were used to determine, which peoples, lands, and cultures would be designated and placed in the said four racial groupings.(Reference: Ivanvan Sertima; “The African Presence In Early Asia”).

Wikipedia the on-line free encyclopedia stated, “Studies performed to determine the population characteristics of ancient Egyptians have used various methods including examining craniometric pattern and variation of skeletal remains. A 2007 study which examined craniometric variation among ancient Egyptians of the predynastic and early dynastic periods found high levels of diversity but concluded that the formation of the Egyptian state was predominantly indigenous in development, with some, but limited migration from elsewhere. A craniofacial study by C. Loring Brace et al. concluded that; "The Predynastic of Upper Egypt and the Late Dynastic of Lower Egypt are more closely related to each other than to any other population" and that they show ties with North African, Somalian, European, Nubian and, more remotely, Indian populations, but not with Sub-Saharan Africans or populations from other continents. Anthropologist Shomarka Keita and geneticist Rick Kittles have criticized this study because of what they describe as "a socially constructed typological paradigm" in which Sub-Saharan Africans are treated as a monolithic, and biological African groups such as Nubians, Somalians and Egyptians are viewed essentially as non-African for having a craniometic pattern more similar to that of non-African populations.”

But from this unscientific, but agreed racial identification, a system of anthropology, archeology, and sociology were formed and began to validate the history, culture and civilization of past peoples and nations. What has always alarmed me, as a social scientist were certain geographical regions in Africa, in particular North East Africa (Egypt, Palestine, Ethiopia, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Somalia) were classified as Caucasoid; although many of these people were very dark skinned (black). But this racial and ethnic contradiction was strategically established by Great Britain, United States, France, Germany, Spain, etc., who desired to create a Eurocentric racial-ethno worldview, which to show forth superior racial kinship with a people and culture that has stood head and shoulders above other societies in the realm of civilization. Perhaps China is the only other society with an equal historical civilization in longevity and cultural advancement compliable to Egypt (Kemet). (Reference: Drusilla Dunjee Houston;” The Wonderful Ethiopians of the Ancient Cushite Empire”).

This writer has personally met North Africans and East Africans that were dark skinned and by United States racial taxonomy they would be considered on the surface black and African. Nevertheless, by western racial-ethnic classifications—they would be deemed white. The Arabs and the people that occupy Egypt (Kemet) today are not the biological or even ethno-kindred to the original inhabitants that lived and occupied ancient Egypt (Kemet) 10,000 years ago, they are a Johnnie-come-lately race. For example, the former Egyptian President Muhammad Anwar Sadat by United States racial standards would have been considered black. The present Saudi Kingdom Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud would be considered black, both of them are from North East Africa. (Reference: Chancellor Williams; “Destruction of Black Civilization: Great Issues of a Race from 4500 BC to 2000 AD)

This writer does not accept the geo-political lines drawn which separates the so-called "Middle East" from the African continent; divided by the man made Suez Canal which serves as an artificial line of demarcation. Perhaps these scientists have no ulterior motives for pushing DNA analysis testing as the latest measuring instrument in the field of Egyptology; this writer doubt this contention because it has the words politically inspired written all over this movement. Or is it just another racist attempt to culturally denigrate blacks in the scheme of civilization and to once again propel themselves to superior status? Ancient Egypt (Kemet) has to be touted the EIGHTH WONDER OF THE WORLD and there is an intellectual war of ideas going on and I am quite sure there are a slew of scholars who are apologist and pundits in this DNA debate relative to Egypt (Kemet). (Reference: Bruce Bridges “Recapturing the African Mind).

These reactionary Egyptologist and DNA proponents have carried Professor Mary Lefkowitz, the author of “Not Out of Africa” argument to another level. Lefkowitz argued that Afrocentric scholars had exaggerated the black historical role in Egypt (Kemet) and created undocumented myths coupled by shoddy research methods and documentation. Lefkowitz attacked George G. M. James who perhaps wrote the Afrocentric intellectual treatise in 1954, titled, “Stolen Legacy”. Lefkowitz stated, “Perhaps the most influential Afrocentrist text is Stolen Legacy, a work that has been in wide circulation since its publication in 1954. Its author, George G. M. James, writes that the ‘term Greek philosophy, to begin with is a misnomer, for there is no such philosophy in existence’. He argues that the Greeks ‘did not possess the native ability essential to the development of philosophy.’ Rather, he states that “the Greeks were not the authors of Greek philosophy, but Black people of North Africa, The Egyptians. . . It is not hard to understand why James wishes to give credit for the Greek achievement to the Egyptians, even if there is little or no historical foundation for these claims. Like the other nationalistic myths, the story of a ‘Stolen Legacy’ both offers an explanation for past suffering and provides a source of ethnic pride.”(Reference: Mary Lefkowitz; “Not Out of Africa: How Afrocentrism Became an Excuse to Teach Myth as History.”

Quite obvious this writer disagrees with Professor Lefkowitz because her assessment and other scholars like her, desire to play up the so-called Semitic lineage and through faulty deductive reason they would like to even argue that the Ancient Egyptians were white and these traditional, Revisionist and reformist historical schools of thought have united behind DNA testing, as representing the last resort to rob ancient Egypt (Kemet) of an African origin, but the preliminary DNA testing wasn’t as conclusive as they expected, which resulted from the unavailability of physical evidence that has faded away with time. The DNA testing has verified overwhelmingly Nubian blood present in the Egyptian corpse and mummies and DNA testing has yet to disqualify the non-presences of African blood in the ethno-racial lineage of the Ancient Egyptians. This writer even read articles written by credible Masonic writers and historians such as Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas that had posted articles on the Hall of Maat and Graham Hancock sites, but intellectual racism, is in one sense, more dangerous because it sets the mental premise and gives meaning, rationale, validation, justification and serve as the foundation for the underlying principle that racism needs to rationalize its existence.

Lastly, from the http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/nod..., I received some valuable lessons and instructions from a blogger who goes by the name of Kats and this is what he left me with relative to my post titled, “Christmas—Jesus the Sun God: Lies, Deception and the Truth.”

“I have always believed that our understanding of the 'past' and 'future' plays the role of two wings of a bird (us), and only in good balance can we then fly where we want to go. So all efforts to elucidate and not compromise with the facts is valuable. Where it gets a bit uncomfortable is when we start getting ideological and tend to paint some facts with brighter colors and some in darker. It is important that more researchers like yourself write about the likelihood of incorrectness of Jesus bd to maybe encourage finding new innovative ways to dig for a true bd.”

“The need for knowing or yet better replacing it is its incorrectness and not because it is a 'pagan celebration'. If the latter is the reason, we can be sure the corrections won't end with bd. This is where we arrive at a juncture where what we think civilization is becomes crucial. All religions, spiritual belief systems, philosophies, theologies, theosophies, etc. are languages of mind, just like languages of mouth, and languages of heart (music) and are precious heritage of our civilization.”

“We have had enough of rough minded powerful leaders who ram thru nations and cultures and destroyed their language of mind, mouth, and heart which took them millenniums of hard work to create, and left them like cats with chopped off whiskers who can't tell which side is up which down. A truly irreparable damage to our civilization. We might have been a bit numbed up by western historians who put heavy emphasis on tool making in ranking civilizations. To me, millions of people around the world died during thousands of years in the process of figuring out which mushrooms are edible and nutritious without side effects, which plant roots have medicinal effects, which deep sea vegetations are good for us, is civilization.”

“That's why I think, did Egypt feed the world with civilization or China, is a question that can only take you to a wrong answer. We can appreciate and respect their contribution, but not the claiming ownership. No body owns civilization. Your description that what premises Dr. John Jackson might have been operating under makes sense, only if he doesn't fall into the same trap.”

I do not know if I have fell into that trap that Kats were referring to, but this writer knew that Graham Hamcock and the Hall of Maat forums were mixing truth with falsehood and in some cases was outright lying about the history and culture of ancient Egypt (Kemet) in order to covertly push their intellectual racist agenda. Some of these scholars even held doctorate degrees in various disciplines, but this writer could no longer sit quietly by while they pillage and plunder over African history. Someone will argue that Knight seem obsessed with the question of race and fail to recognize and acknowledge my core base, which is African, African American and all people of goodwill. This is my response to setting the historical record straight and to letting Graham Hamcock and the Hall of Maat forums know that THERE ARE EYES ON THEM.

Fahim A. Knight-El Chief Researcher for KEEPING IT REAL THINK TANK located in Durham, NC; our mission is to inform African Americans and all people of good will of the pending dangers that lie ahead; as well as decode the symbolisms and reinterpret the hidden meanings behind those who operate as invisible forces, but covertly rules the world. We are of the belief that an enlighten world will be better prepared to throw off the shackles of ignorance and not be willing participants for the slaughter. Our MOTTO is speaking truth to power. Fahim A. Knight can be reached at fahimknight@yahoo.com.

Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-El

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Pam

I agree with your post as far as it goes. Over the centuries many groups, especially Arabs, have migrated into and out of North East Africa. So, the modern day population of the area is mixed. The fact, however, that some of the Pharoes had red hair makes some people claim that the Ancient Egyptians and their Pharoes were caucasians and nothing could be farther from the truth. There are a variety hair colors in Africa.

What do you think?

cnnek

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Blasto6745

The Biblical Hebrews, including Jesus, and Egyptians were east Africans. Furthermore, geneticists agree with me!

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cnnek

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