I voted for various, but why not have an anthology for each subject? It'd make things easier to find and all that jazz.
On a side-note, I think it's funny how one of the big questions in life is "what happens when we die?" and still, no one voted for it. Yet.
Posted by the shadow on 08 May 2007 at about 00:09.
Hi there, I can't read your name, sorry.
I think the answer to that is that there is no answer.I don't trust a single person to speak for me on what is after life except that I know there is death.
I agree that would be a better way. I don't know why I voted the way I did, because I regretted it directly afterwards.
I normally never vote, so I retract my vote, because polls never ever ask in a way that is not biased,they are normally looking for the answer they would like, or at least one of them.
How about a poll with a suggestion box? Instead of one or the other.
Various is too weak a category, it sounds like you forgot yer shopping list and yer wife is gonna kick yer butt out of the house unless you can re-create it. That topic is a fishing expedition, but I don't think fish was on yer wife's shopping list, sorry, I can't come up with anything better than why does generic marmite taste worse than a brand name vesion.
Its like asking a Norwegian why he eats lefse or lutfisk, and I mean these are really nasty, even worse that a week old dried out pickled pilchard.
Posted by Colette M. Dowell on 12 May 2007 at about 02:08.
It gives us more choice to read. That is why I love the Grail is is weird, full of weird stuff, all different stuff, not too mainstream, not too dull, not too weird though and not too academic.
That was a pretty good answer about death or life Shadows, funny.........
Posted by the shadow on 12 May 2007 at about 02:38.
Sorry you lost your animals.Its hard when you do.
Nice to see you again.
Yep, a lot of people tell me I have the choice of Heaven or Hell but I don't believe in either.
I am anxiously awaiting my alien abduction to find out.
Posted by Colette M. Dowell on 12 May 2007 at about 15:23.
Hello Shadows ,
I would have figured you to say waiting for the ghosts to pick you up and take you away.
ALiens..........I still do not understand all of that as I have been involved so very log with the research on abductions. Then it all became vogue. I am still unclear about what happens. SO many differnt things do. THat is why I would like some answers to some questions on the paranormal things as thenh in some areas I could move on with my life.
I find myslef moere and more over the years going back into my curiosity of medical scientific breakthroughs on technologies that can measure brain wavelength and various facets of our mind. ALso, like that computer technology that can work if you just think, it is hooked to you body.
I have the classic symptoms I suppose of the abductee, although I was one of the ones who researched and helped doctors set up some criteria for an abduction experience. WHen they did that though, they put a regime on it. I do not beleive that all experiences have to be the same.
What some people are now doing, taking that drug, that natural one, I can not remeber the name of it, it was like Terrance was taking to see entities, (part of the chemical component in shrooms) and they claim they see into another dimension, I did not take those drugs to see these things or experince them, and my son also was with me and had separate experiences, and we had them together. He was very young then, now he rarely will tlak about it. He is going on 23. But, we did not enduce ourselves with a substance to change the chemistry in our brain to alter its abilbity to "see" or feel or the ability to comprehend the existence of other realms; it all came as very natural.
But, this is what strikes me as odd. Back in the late 1980s, to talk and write aobut such things you were a kook and especially if you did not do drugs to alter your brain, then you must be schizo to see and experince such things. NOw days, it is acceptable if you take a drug and say you have that experince, or something like it. Is that because the human mind can easliy say, well, that peroson was on drugs anyway, so maybe it didn't really happen, but to then it seems like it really did.
There is a big difference between being sober and having an experience, then being on a drug and having an experince. I do not care for the experines I had, nor my son's as they have higly affected us and alterd our minds and the way we perceive things. But, in some ways it is good, in other ways it is bad. I know that I have experienced enough horror in this life to last me many life times. I do not want any more expreinces, even if they are 'nice" and spirirtual. WHat I seek is control over my senses that create these things or the world around me that I perceive. I would like control and understand the physics and methodology of the brain , mind or spirit matter that enduces such events and be able to have some control.
I have died and come back many times now. I do not know why I do not die, and doctors do not either. Many people tell me I have a mission to complete. But, that puts a burden on me, I do not liek that. I would like soem peace. BUt, I fill my time with interesting things and do what I can and meditate and ask for better understanding. I ask to pass alot too, and it has not happend yet. I get jerked back.
What do you think about when some one tells some one they have a mission to complete and do not go yet, we need you. If you were in pain all o f the time and such, and you felt you had done all you really wanted to do in life and you were ready for some peace, would you think it is selfish of some to say , no, no do not go, we need you and then maybe their energy interferes with yours and keeps you here when really you are ready to split?
Like colletive consiousness maybe, that if alot of people are depedning on you, for what ever reason???? your soul or spirit is bound to that pattern of thought because it has manifested due to the amount o f other's thoughts making it so. SO, here you are, and your just there , but you have a circle around you of people that have their hands clasped together and they circle around you and do not let you pass over the line because they want to keep you in the center ring as if you had some special gift they want to have for them selvs , or they believe that you have soem special gift that will save them and the planet or raise the evolution of man's consiousness, so they hold on to you and donot let you go. It is a struggle as is there is a chain on you and you can go no farther than just enough to see what is on the other side and experince it, then you are yanked back into this reality and then it starts all over again, people do not want to let you go and say thatit is not your time . BUt, how do they know that? And is their desire to keep a person in a certain reality so stong when combined with other's thoughts that they can actualy keep a soul or spirit bound in this 3D realm?
DO you understand what I am trying to say? It is difficult to put into words, but. WEll, I will shut up. I got on a roll about death and aleins and all, but, those are just some of my thoughts.
ANyway, would you feel that you were being kept in a cage and not beng allowed to have free will and leave if there were so many peopel guilt tripping you to have to stay?
ANd if so, how can one break that cycle and just go, blow out of here and move on?
Do you want an article about yer failing vision, 'cuz it shows up in yer typos. Yer intelligent, so i know you can spell better than that. I deliberately misspell for humor's sake.
Do you want looney fringe stuff like alien abduction.
Since you didn't mention which drug you played with, but did mention shrooms, meaning psychedelics, peyote, mescaline or whatever, do you want the downside of mind altering drugs, or results of having to live with a drug altered mind,
Do you want an anxiety filled screed ala Kierkegaard. Danes pride themselves on their melancholy, you can't claim to be a Dane if you ain't. Go to Sweden and get a Swedes take on what it means to be Danish, other than their language, to a Swedes ear sounds like they are ready to puke on you, similar to a Germans' reaction of being subjected to folk speaking Dutch and getting their glasses sprayed with spit. Swedes consider spoken Danish a disease, just Germans' describe spoken Dutch as a disease.
So, what, pray tell, other than a meaningless mumbo-jumbo gnostic trip, is your idea of a topic...
Posted by the shadow on 12 May 2007 at about 23:48.
Jaako we have an understanding here on TDG that unless a post is unreadable we don't discuss their spelling.
We are very lucky to have imaginative people on this forum who can think of more than one way to spell a word.
I think also when you get to know our Colette you will find that she has been more places, seen more things,had far more interesting experiences than you have had or could ever have because you tie yourself to a loony church.
Posted by the shadow on 12 May 2007 at about 23:59.
Hey Colette,
Yes I sort of know what you mean.My thinking has changed a heap over the past few years.
You know how for millennia mankind has always thought of itself as the only species of its kind in the universe, and then began to wonder about life elsewhere?
Well I have begun to think that the only thing I really know for sure is that there ARE aliens out there.
It is illogical to think that there aren't.
Now knowing this sort of changes the way I think about things.What if it wasn't God who put us here but aliens.
And we are really just all living in the matrix ala the movie.
Then we could really have our brains messed with.
It must be difficult to have had an experience where the doctors said you died and then you came back.
It has to interfere a little with your concept of yourself.
I have no experience of drugs, just a little morphine in the hospital,but I think it is perhaps the way to go if we want to look into our psyches.
I became interested after reading Graham Hancocks's book Supernatural.
And then the discussion with people in hospital with me who all saw cats when they were dosed with morphine as I also did.
About completing your mission....only you can decide what your mission is and when and if it will be completed.My opinion is that you work hard at what you believe to be the truth to get it out there for people.
Posted by Colette M. Dowell on 13 May 2007 at about 00:37.
I do think there are other beings other then us in this vast space. I do think we have the ability or some of us do to interact with them.
Mission Complete? Yes, I am confused about that. I keep occupied and do my thing. Yes, and that book is the one I was thinking of, the herb from South America or root, ayahuasca??( I do not know how to say it or spell it) Graham talked about beings, just as Terrance Mekkena did, but, they seem like they are the ones that I have had contact with and others, but, we were not on the herb. But, I feel like Shaman experiences are beneficial. I also think that many drugs that alter a person' mind can help them ease up and become more lucid and accept things that they might have a barrier up from before.
Example being, a lady might not want to ever sing, she is afraid, then she takes a few sips of burbon and starts singing like BIllie Holiday and she loves it and wonders why she was so afraid to do it in teh first place.
Yes, I have had lots to think about my life and death. I just read the post of the person who wrote about recently having a near death experience. I wanted to write to them, I feel they are in pain, and trying to understand what happened. I read what they wrote about being here and forgiveness and forgetting. It is difficult, that is acceptance. THe process of acceptance is very difficult at times.
You Shadows and many others that we know here on the Grail are persavering indviduals. WE overcome many things and in doing so and writing about it, we share our thoughts and help oursleves and others and we are not so alone. Many of us are by our selves and reach out to others, a lot of us have physical issues we deal with but still are creative with our minds and write and communicate. WE have frineds all around the world and we never have to leave our computer! We never know who we help that might read soem thing we just wrote innocently and it really was just a casual post, but, some one might read it and it has changed their views on things or helped them in some way we may never know.
I love the Grail and all of its members, it is a great site.
I have been waiting for you to write about some more ghost stories. Remeber when we spoke of the thing that lays on the bed and indents it but you can not see it, you said you had that too. Yepper, there are lots of weird things out there for sure.
Thank you Shadows.
Love, COlette
Colette said she had floaters. It can definitely affect the way you type if you can't focus clearly. Did she jump into my case and play God with folks' lives like you do. No. She said nothing, just like you should say nothing that does not pertain directly to your own personal inadequacies.
If Colette was offended, she is intelligent enough to respond herself.
I see your retarded remark as your paranoia. You unloaded bizarre responses to various threads I find it equally inappropriate. You assume you own the thought content of this board. What is your major malfunction with life? Had you come into my clinic when I was working I would not dismiss this is a whimsical joke on your part. Its not my job to be a on line therapist. You need help, why take your persecutorial delusional state out on me or anybody else.
This is not one of your typical bizarre out-of-context cheapshots you take for granted have some therapeutical value for you. I ignoredthem 'cuz I considered the source. My focus is on humor and deflating over-inflated gnostic egos
Since you feel threatened by it, that's a problem for you to take up with yer therapist. I am quite certain, this has been a life-long affliction you have not come to terms with. I am not the cause of it, I certainly will not re-inforce yer petulant ranting
I am quite cool, calm, collected as I write this text. There is no malice or vindictiveness intended, It is an exercise in detached, clinical description of your behavior. I take the snide remarks about my character as part of the price one pays to engage folk on this board.
Since this is an eclectic site with borderline topics, borderline in the sense of sci-fi and no connection with reality. It had zilch humor content even though Greg puts his subtle touch onto topics in his newletter. The I love me who do you love aura in these topics and thread is in itself a factor as to how and why I post the way I do.
Who wants boring, ultradry sawdust. That permeates some topics and threads. As Harry Truman once said if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I deliberately use the generic term gnostics to cover everything that is not true believe christian, that covers a huge spectrum, no?
Come up with a better term that also makes reference to the topics on this website.
Posted by plw12752anderson on 13 May 2007 at about 06:34.
Dear jaako,
Many of us have been coming here for many years. We understand particular problems akin to certain posters and there is a leeway given out of compassion one for another. We may email one another, better understanding the health issues that comes with old age or accidents or disease. Many of which you have no knowledge of. You have stated that you are a Christian. Practice what you profess to believe, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
If we TDG posters do not rise to your needed/wanted measure of humor and fail to tickle your funny bone, there are many other sites with forums that could provide that for you.
Granted, your posts disturb ones thoughts. My sincere apologies for the alcoholic remark but your poor spelling, ranting, scatological comments and low blows regarding TDG posters seemed as if you were in a drunken outburst. Upon retrospection, go back and read your own words. Therein lies a heap of hate. What part of your own self is it that you despise so much that you must attack others for so little provocation other than your need to be entertained? Pardon my bold leap of this conclusion, you seem to be a very sad individual.
Your not the first nor will you be the last to parody or lambast the members of this site. We have seen your ilk come and go, some stay and grow to care and love one another. It's alright on occasions to be a scoundrel and be silly, tell jokes, poke fun and find humor in the weirdness of some the concepts, or the linked websites. That's the paradigm that we seem to push farther into. What may seem so illogical today may very well be a fact tomorrow.
We do not exclusively do research upon any one area of interest. One day it could be physics, the next day linquistics, a week later all topics focus on archeology, it may be the linen cloth of some buried ancient royal person. The topics are varied and so are the posts and the blogs. We come to listen and learn, speak our personal truths, take up political arguments and lend an ear to a troubled friend.
We come here with questions and quest to find answers. Good journey to you in yours, making friends is far better than making enemies. We come from many differing viewpoints, religions, ethnicities and locations, we may be blendings of all the above.
So, the vitriolic comments get old quick as they are rather transparent. Just be, quit trying so hard to be something your not. Your welcome to spout your own beliefs in your own blog anytime. Welcome to TDG jaako, we are not all bad, nor all good, we are a great deal of what is between.
Sincerely, Pam -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.
Posted by the shadow on 14 May 2007 at about 03:27.
I don't know how you would say it in American but in Australia we would say you are a terrific sheila only I don't think people actually talk like that anymore.
You have a delicate way with words, unlike my somewhat sledge-hammer approach.
I will take lessons from you.
I see your retarded remark as your paranoia....What is your major malfunction with life?...You need help, why take your persecutorial delusional state out on me or anybody else.
This is not one of your typical bizarre out-of-context cheapshots you take for granted have some therapeutical value for you. I ignored them 'cuz I considered the source. My focus is on humor and deflating over-inflated gnostic egos.
What a coincidence. My focus is on respect, and banning self-important posters who can't show some to other members. Consider this a first warning Jaako.
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I am quite cool, calm, collected as I write this text.
What a shame. You've done yourself out of any possible reason for posting such idiotic remarks.
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Since this is an eclectic site with borderline topics, borderline in the sense of sci-fi and no connection with reality. It had zilch humor content even though Greg puts his subtle touch onto topics in his newletter.
I didn't even know I did a newsletter. But seriously, if the site doesn't appeal to you, there are a few million more on the Intarweb that you'd probably enjoy more. Don't let me stop you.
Or, if you want to stick around, pull your head in and show some respect for posters that have been around for a lot longer than you have. For sure, debate topics hard, argue against people, make them challenge their preconceptions. Just don't act like an ass, as you've been doing lately. Because everyone's beginning to suspect that you're an...ass.
Kind regards,
Greg
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You monkeys only think you're running things
Posted by Colette M. Dowell on 13 May 2007 at about 10:01.
Aura of love and I will blow hard now so this is quite long.
I made sure I blew, blew blew…..and I took a break, re-powered my machine and I can see and write as long as I just blow blow blow. I am getting a fuller ribcage (I dare say Breasts) or pecs, that is it -- pectorals right? Or something. I hope I spelled that right. Darn. Well, I am getting real strong.
Hello Jerko, I can’t see, I can’t type, I can’t spell, heck, I can’t sit here, what is your name for real? What is it? Jerko, Jack*ss, Junky, Jaco, Jocky as in Hanes? Hey how do you pronounce that anyway? I can’t see the fine print with the bio eyes made from oxygen as fuel to empower my machine, it is a high tech one, just blow and it does as you command with your breath and toot toots. Anyway-- No, I am not really intelligent, I do not know where you got that from. I can not spell at all, I was born with out being able to speak , read or write and God gave me the semi gift of communication, but only on his terms when he feels like it and then I must hold a cross up and worship Christians as they made God in their fashion or mold, or a rib, or was that Man was made of God, what he looks like, I am not sure, I keep getting that back wards. I came on the Grail one day and was lost on a search, I was using my breath machine I blow into that writes for me and takes commands through the tempo of my breath, but, it has to be high powered with the battery to keep it functioning correctly or otherwise it gets dyslexic and it forgets and then it writes these weird things, but I do not know that until some one points it out to me, I guess I called myself a Gnostic, what does that mean, did I say that or did you? I am trying to blow hard here now to get this right, I hope this is working correctly, I had to blow really hard to read what you wrote, this things hooks up to my nostrils too and makes it difficult for me to breath, but Stephen has something like it and I am good friends with him as we both look like each other, but my mouth drops a bit farther down than him, but he is a really nice guy, and he is the one who gave me this device to use so I can communicate. I also have these legs that are made of plastic and Lt. Dan from the Forest Gump movie
( not his real name) gave me some of his spares, (titanium for dress) but, I get around all right. My favorite way of getting around is by deep breaths to make sure Microsoft and its browser works good so I can come here to the Grail and have my fix of entertainment as I can not get to the local store to buy tabloid magazines, but, I am on disability anyway and I cannot afford such luxuries, you will notice when I get out of breath that my spelling gets messed up because the machine is not functioning properly. Sorry, but, I smoked a pipe to night and the doctor said I should not as it will not make good for my breath maker that types and does all my functions for me. It has eyes too, but limited vision, it works with my nose, when I blow real hard through them snotstrils. I am like Pal in the movie 2001, Daisy, daisy, give me your answer do, I’m still crazy over the love 4 U. I am slowing down and this is not working no good so I will wait for a while to let it gear up.
2 hours have gone by now I think , my meter says so, so I will try to blow some more, this is good exercise for my lungs. Well, I should say One lung, the other one collapsed during my open heart surgery recently and then the damn tube they shoved down my throat caused it to get swelled up and soar and sure makes blowing hard for me. I want a computer that hooks up all of the way to the brain, I can just think then, but, there is a problem with that too as I was only registering around 68 on that IQ type test they give people like me.
WOW, I feel like a new bionic woman now……….blow hard, blow hard, that is what I repeat in my mind, but, I must blow as if I am playing the piano as every key to my breath is a signal to this cute device you would love it. It is green and has little yellow flowers on it that were painted on it just for me! My spouse shines it for me, but, not all of the time as he is far away, we only half time him and me due to me having no body, he says he gets tired of polishing my parts. If you saw me though I do not think you would know I am like a mannequin, just with clothes on and some gadgets hooked up to me. He doesn’t mind most of the time. We still get around, he is not embarrassed, he tells people I am his Japanese made Nano robot.
Maybe if I was real nuts one day I would agree to meet you , you seem like a real swell guy……kiss kiss…my honey is not the jealous type. If he was or if you got out of line with me anyway, he could probably whoop the dummies out of you if you were to hijack my machines. So maybe you could teach me all of that good stuff that God says for Christian to do as I said before, oh now, I said fashion – I meant image, yes that is right, I am made in the image of man, I am God, God has all knowing and power and abilities, he can tell me when it is going to rain and I find him better at that then when I turn on this two way radio that I was given also by some nice angels from the local corner church I drive by with this electric wheel chair to talk with them and my direct line with God. I am a special person they call me. But, I have a compact model for travel, and it is also the one I use to ride my chair down the road, hey it takes bumps real good too. I know this machine is not working right as I just dropped some ashes from my pipe into it, damn -- God sorry. Hey, where do you come up with these clever remarks you make? I find them entertaining. I really like it here, the smart ones who can use their brains to reconfigure my letters and red what I write. Now those are the intelligent ones, I can not claim any true thoughts of my own or any writings, I plagiarize every one, the Grail members just put up with me because they are such happy and loving folks, they take strays in like me, Oh good I blew hard enough and my machine is recognizing my rhyme better, I loved what you wrote and wished to you write more. I like reading weird things I think I stated this already, but my brain you see, it stopped working too as it has tumors on it and they do not know what to do with me, they tried to cut but they missed and they whacked out another part of my brain that is used to comprehend, but, I thought I understand what you wrote, Is this machine working now I cant see too good again.
I read everything you wrote. Oh I am running out of breath. I not only have floaters, (do you really think I do? I thought the machine said it was something like floaters but turned into gold spark like things that resembled sperm)I have big bootees too. You were great and I appreciate everything you said so well. But , no do not believe I am intelligent, My friend gave me some of those ideas while he was helping me with my bed pan, This machine I use to do all of these functions for me does not work with bedpans, so he was helping me change positions and he read what you wrote and well, he told me some pretty bad things about you just now. I think you need to go away and quit bothering us over here if you really said those things, gosh, I didn’t read them right because this Breath machine was out of power. Shoot, maybe I was being nice to you and you do not deserve to be my friend or be on their lovely Grail site. Shoot, I do not want to erase what I wrote it has taken me hours to do this so I will not. Look I am tired now and my friend is blowing into my machine now for me and he is all humped over and not standing tall, and his face is getting red now….I think that is funny when that happens. You should see him when he is blue in the face…that is quite a spectacle.. I am starting to slide off my wheel chair now darn it, those people at Medicare didn’t think I needed a flannel lining to keep me upright and this machine, called the “Friendly Breath and Body” is only able to do so much. I hope this is comprehensible to you. Please, I will cry if you tell me you cannot understand as I am an emotionally wrecked woman right now and can not handle any more people making fun of my breath and tell me dumb jokes like “hey take some mints that might help.” when the problems are in the lines and the water condensation that builds up in the tubes from my spit that flies when I have to blow so hard. Please do not make fun of me.. You see this is the first prototype, but as I say, my friend Stephen gave it to me, He is rich, I am poor, but it was nice of him to give this to me, but it does not work all of the time. So you say you are God? Or did I not see that write. You are not my God, and I think Shadows and Pam have other ones too, where do you come from, which planet, we do not talk in neighbor hoods here, we are far out in space and travel light years just to line up to be able to post. How is it you got here so fast to post I never saw you in line are you one of those cheaters? I bet you knock down old ladies too. I will maybe avoid you as I am an old lady now, but, this machine has great torque and I can always roll over you and pop that melon off your shoulders, Pumpkin Jacko, what is your name again. I did like it , I cannot breath and blow to get it right so I think this is the last I will write to you. No bad feelings Jerko, or Jaco, or what is it I have terrible memory. How the Grail puts up with me, I do not know, too 2 many times my machine burns out on me and I do not know what I am writing as I can not see it and it surely maybe may not be what I mean, or I mean, not mean, do you know what I mean?
Ok, This is farewell and adios sucker. I will use spell check on it in a few minutes. That takes very controlled breathing and at a very fast pace as it talks to me and says it has many characters it has to look at and type out. Sometimes I think it is lazy. But, you know what? OH, I just love it for where would I be with out it. I was not born as normal were you?
Oh yeah, Hey Shadows and Pam, the Aliens did get in touch with me tonight earlier. They told me to try to get in bed at a decent hour and they will meet up with me later. I hope to see them here soon, I will tell them hi for you and also Dr.RS sends all of his love and greetings. He is very proud I made it through this session to night with out going into convulsions. It is great to have such a wonderful partner that lubes my gears and uses the correct plastic glue to fix my lines.
Posted by Colette M. Dowell on 14 May 2007 at about 04:49.
Hello Shadowes and Pam , FLoppy, Greg and all,
Just giving that person a razz.....I thought that was odd to read that kind of posting from some one???I do not know that person - it was not Grail quality. I am glad there were warnings. We need to all keep the integrity of this site up, it is all of us . I was showing how ludicrous some writing can be.
I am getting greased up and lubed as able, even use WD40 at times. I have been laying low lately as needed.
I like being able to visit with my friends agian here. It is real nice. I have been reading about argofalcon, and I have much empathy.
Yes, lets get away from this thread and leave it for voters.
THank you and Pam and Floppy and Greg and every one for being supportive.
Really, it warmed me .
I am so glad to be back home.
Yes, some ghosts stories please.
VARIOUS is what I voted -- now getting back on topic!
He was only 55 y.o, a heavy smoking work-a-holic. He was a pleasant guy to talk to when he wasn't under pressure to get work done. He was self-employed. He also went thru 2 marriages to very nice women who asked him politely to work less, they would learn how to get by on less on the material things of life. He didn't have anytime to enjoy life he was driven by the good old cherman protestant work ethic, as compared to the protestant work of other cultures. Yet he wasn't churchy, he never went to church.
He developed a smokers cough and ignored it in his 30's. His material wealth increased over time. He actually did quite well in a rather off beat island in the Caribbean. After he lost his 2nd wife and 2 kids, who moved to the main land to get away from native unrest on the island, he made a interesting choice. He commuted by way of Puerto Rico to the States, he did this week ending trip for 3 years. He had to support 3 locations, his apartment, his home for his family, his business..
If you wonder why I digress and let you know about things that happen in my family, that are not actually funny things. I have a very intense personal interaction human side with folk who have both feet firmly planted on the ground. Once folk get airborne, and their feet get firmly planted in mid air they get a new lifestyle, no? They deliberately set themselves aside from eartbound humanity,
We earthbounders are quite amused by musings and antics of wanna be ETs still trapped by earth's gravity. The closest they can do to get into the aether zone is thru their fertile imaginations. Philip K Dick is a good example, no?
What happened to Philip K Dick. A buddy of mine who translated his books over here went to California to meet him to get some passages he wrote explained to him so that an exact as possible translation could occur. They tried to do it by exchange of letters but Dick wrote his mail was being opened he can't do that.
Philip K Dick ended up quite isolated as a result of his dabblings in esoteric arcana of life. my buddy who personally met and discussed his work in translation watched Dick get up, look out the windows, wondering if his conversation was vibrating the window panes and placed pillows against them to absorb these vibrations. Dick told my friend he was certain every word he said was being overheard.
I digress, especially to Philip K Dick is that my wife learned how to read English by reading Dick's work. She read sci-fi for its diversity. Her brother took Dick's books to read on the plane trips he made. The world suddenly becomes a small place, no? By reconstructing his encounter with Philip K Dick, our translator friend, a college buddy of my wife, we felt as though we were part of Philip K Dicks extended family even though my wife and I never met him personally.
Now, to the death throes of my bro-in-law. He met a 3rd woman who had been thru 5 divorces. This gal really wore her heart on her sleeve. She genuinely became attached to each husband but somehow found herself supporting them instead of them supporting her, ergo, they had to go
This was not an overnight thing so by the time she hit age 50 she told me each marriage lasted on average 5-6 years. She is still on speaking terms with them, interestingly enough, She felt felt the Good Lord answered her prayers when she met my bro-in-law. She was never subjected to a work-ä-holic husband before. They stayed in the Caribbean til local politics made it impossible to stay in business. He lost everything and had to start all over again.
They moved to Florida, where competition was horrendous, to say the least. It took a couple of years to get established and his breathing had to be assisted. This led to a series of short hospitalizations that wiped out what litttle savings they had. The business he started had to be sold to pay the bills.
They were so desparate for medications they asked if they could borrow 5,000 bux for treatments for him. His fiancee called my wife and said can you come over and cheer him up. At this point he could only talk thru short gasps, short words, yes and no type questions had to be asked. 2 days after my wife arrrived, he died in her arms, just like her own mom did 5 years earlier, from cancer
Yes, I know how precious life is, I know how much people suffer. I had to watch my little 4 y.o brother die of jaw cancer when I was 8 y,o. I know when its time for me to go I will spare my nearest and dearest of that trauma, There are many places my relatives are, scattered all over Europe. Some of them have cute little summer cottages in woodland settings, the ideal place to go and slumber off in.
For folk here on this board to jump to conclusions about me the human being, you can always jump all over my nom de plume, bubba. He thrives on humor yawl, he sees humor in the strangest of places on these threads. He's amazed how folk can get their ET mojo going, he takes for granted these escapes from earthbound reality is their personal humor therapy.
I sadly mentioned in another thread, who's to say I won't witness the demise of every poster to this board. To me that would be sad, Colette said she likes the weird stuff folk say and write. I took the banter I experienced as de rigeur comment on the part of everyday gnostics seeking their illumination, their enlightenment. I discovered the gnostic agenda here is not tolerant of humor that sees the ludicrousness of life in the aether zone we can't physically occupy, but can only escape to verbally.
I don't attack anybody's belief in God but gnostics here feel free to go for the jugular when it comes to mentioning Christianity. I said. I don't Judge, Jesus does. If that concept bothers ya, how do you survive in a society that bases its laws of the 10 Commandments. That bothers some folk as well. Its seen as me jamming religion down their throat.
If I come across as irreverent its 'cuz I know nobody is perfect, they got warts, they fart, they get upset with life. Here they look for solace in an open forum, which lends itself to outside probity. Greg said look elsewhere. My take on it is he assumes if folk don't like his observation about topics he posts, my mistake to call it a newsletter, even though it blogs, folk can just mosy along in cyber space.
He set it up to be eclectic and quirky, link to the aether zone crowd. If that is not yer purpose Greg, why is it suddenly a clubby extended family that can e-mail to each other instead of on an open forum. Common sense to me is keep private things private, public things public. How does a casual surfer browsing thru know if a thread is open or closed, private or public?
If that is not yer purpose Greg, why is it suddenly a clubby extended family that can e-mail to each other instead of on an open forum. Common sense to me is keep private things private, public things public. How does a casual surfer browsing thru know if a thread is open or closed, private or public?
Jaako, you were not pulled up for intruding on a closed thread, you were pulled up for calling Shadows' comments "retarded", asking what her "major malfunction with life" was, and saying that she was in a "persecutorial delusional state".
All threads are open here on TDG, it just helps to talk like well-mannered human being if you want some reciprocal respect. Hopefully you've grasped it this time?
Kind regards,
Greg
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You monkeys only think you're running things
Posted by the shadow on 16 May 2007 at about 03:20.
Jaako, you do not keep private things private, nor public things public.
We know all about your bowels and your family illnesses.
If you think I go for the jugular on Christianity, you should try me on racism, homosexuality,sexism......
Another thing.....our humour is a little different from yours.For a start it is not inyerface.You need to know people to know when they are pulling your leg.
Or taking the mickey.
My sons have taking the mickey down to a fine art with me.They are so good that they get cheeky with it, thinking I am thaaaat dumb.
Some of us, a lot of us, have been around this forum for a long time....so long that we have grown into the furniture.
We have become a family, not realising that we were.
I have said before on this forum that a family can consist of whatever you want it to be.
My own family is me, 2 little mad dogs, and a parrot that wants me to make love to it.
Stick around, you might surprise yourself by getting into the groove.It may not be the groove you are used to, but we ain't complainin'.
Should TDG be unable to fund a fecund collection of anthologies like Disinformation, it only makes sense to cover as many subjects as possible. Besides, part of the interest for me is how, say, Art History, Occultism, and Consciousness connect... so the more in one place the better for me, particularly if the collected elements connect on some theme (even loosely).
I would, of course, encourage you to make anthologies of all these individual subjects. Until that happens, my vote is for multiplicity.
Thanks for doing all this collection and research, everyone @ TDG. I'm new here, finding out about your nook from toolband and looking in from time to time, and I really like it here. Thanks for putting together so much of what I find interesting!
Thanks a lot, shadows. I hope I can contribute reports of investigations of my own eventually. I'm very happy to be here among such interesting & inquisitive folks, and I thank you for the warm welcome. Keep up the good work. I'll pipe up from time to time.
I think I would vote for various because all the subjects are interesting-however-we will all face death which is something I am not afraid of. I sort of feel egyptian like because of all the books I have collected regarding the egyptian afterlife and the interest I have in egypt as a whole.
I previously voted for the various, and stand by that vote. It did, however, occur to me that it might be advantagious to use a different subject on a rotational basis each month.
What value do you get out of The Daily Grail over the course of a year? Is it worth the price of a coffee? Perhaps the price of a magazine subscription? Whatever it is, you can help ensure the future and independence of TDG by sending a 'voluntary subscription' of any amount. Your support is appreciated!
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9 February 2007
51 weeks 1 day
I voted for various, but why not have an anthology for each subject? It'd make things easier to find and all that jazz.
On a side-note, I think it's funny how one of the big questions in life is "what happens when we die?" and still, no one voted for it. Yet.
24 June 2004
4 years 50 weeks
Hi there, I can't read your name, sorry.
I think the answer to that is that there is no answer.I don't trust a single person to speak for me on what is after life except that I know there is death.
shadows
1 May 2004
1 year 20 weeks
I agree that would be a better way. I don't know why I voted the way I did, because I regretted it directly afterwards.
I normally never vote, so I retract my vote, because polls never ever ask in a way that is not biased,they are normally looking for the answer they would like, or at least one of them.
How about a poll with a suggestion box? Instead of one or the other.
31 March 2007
2 years 8 weeks
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so i did not vote.
am allergic to voting anyhow.
:-)
1 May 2004
27 weeks 15 hours
They're all great subjects. It's too hard to pick just one.
12 February 2007
4 years 50 weeks
Various is too weak a category, it sounds like you forgot yer shopping list and yer wife is gonna kick yer butt out of the house unless you can re-create it. That topic is a fishing expedition, but I don't think fish was on yer wife's shopping list, sorry, I can't come up with anything better than why does generic marmite taste worse than a brand name vesion.
Its like asking a Norwegian why he eats lefse or lutfisk, and I mean these are really nasty, even worse that a week old dried out pickled pilchard.
26 February 2005
2 years 44 weeks
It gives us more choice to read. That is why I love the Grail is is weird, full of weird stuff, all different stuff, not too mainstream, not too dull, not too weird though and not too academic.
That was a pretty good answer about death or life Shadows, funny.........
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
www.robertschoch.net
24 June 2004
4 years 50 weeks
Sorry you lost your animals.Its hard when you do.
Nice to see you again.
Yep, a lot of people tell me I have the choice of Heaven or Hell but I don't believe in either.
I am anxiously awaiting my alien abduction to find out.
love shadows
26 February 2005
2 years 44 weeks
Hello Shadows ,
I would have figured you to say waiting for the ghosts to pick you up and take you away.
ALiens..........I still do not understand all of that as I have been involved so very log with the research on abductions. Then it all became vogue. I am still unclear about what happens. SO many differnt things do. THat is why I would like some answers to some questions on the paranormal things as thenh in some areas I could move on with my life.
I find myslef moere and more over the years going back into my curiosity of medical scientific breakthroughs on technologies that can measure brain wavelength and various facets of our mind. ALso, like that computer technology that can work if you just think, it is hooked to you body.
I have the classic symptoms I suppose of the abductee, although I was one of the ones who researched and helped doctors set up some criteria for an abduction experience. WHen they did that though, they put a regime on it. I do not beleive that all experiences have to be the same.
What some people are now doing, taking that drug, that natural one, I can not remeber the name of it, it was like Terrance was taking to see entities, (part of the chemical component in shrooms) and they claim they see into another dimension, I did not take those drugs to see these things or experince them, and my son also was with me and had separate experiences, and we had them together. He was very young then, now he rarely will tlak about it. He is going on 23. But, we did not enduce ourselves with a substance to change the chemistry in our brain to alter its abilbity to "see" or feel or the ability to comprehend the existence of other realms; it all came as very natural.
But, this is what strikes me as odd. Back in the late 1980s, to talk and write aobut such things you were a kook and especially if you did not do drugs to alter your brain, then you must be schizo to see and experince such things. NOw days, it is acceptable if you take a drug and say you have that experince, or something like it. Is that because the human mind can easliy say, well, that peroson was on drugs anyway, so maybe it didn't really happen, but to then it seems like it really did.
There is a big difference between being sober and having an experience, then being on a drug and having an experince. I do not care for the experines I had, nor my son's as they have higly affected us and alterd our minds and the way we perceive things. But, in some ways it is good, in other ways it is bad. I know that I have experienced enough horror in this life to last me many life times. I do not want any more expreinces, even if they are 'nice" and spirirtual. WHat I seek is control over my senses that create these things or the world around me that I perceive. I would like control and understand the physics and methodology of the brain , mind or spirit matter that enduces such events and be able to have some control.
I have died and come back many times now. I do not know why I do not die, and doctors do not either. Many people tell me I have a mission to complete. But, that puts a burden on me, I do not liek that. I would like soem peace. BUt, I fill my time with interesting things and do what I can and meditate and ask for better understanding. I ask to pass alot too, and it has not happend yet. I get jerked back.
What do you think about when some one tells some one they have a mission to complete and do not go yet, we need you. If you were in pain all o f the time and such, and you felt you had done all you really wanted to do in life and you were ready for some peace, would you think it is selfish of some to say , no, no do not go, we need you and then maybe their energy interferes with yours and keeps you here when really you are ready to split?
Like colletive consiousness maybe, that if alot of people are depedning on you, for what ever reason???? your soul or spirit is bound to that pattern of thought because it has manifested due to the amount o f other's thoughts making it so. SO, here you are, and your just there , but you have a circle around you of people that have their hands clasped together and they circle around you and do not let you pass over the line because they want to keep you in the center ring as if you had some special gift they want to have for them selvs , or they believe that you have soem special gift that will save them and the planet or raise the evolution of man's consiousness, so they hold on to you and donot let you go. It is a struggle as is there is a chain on you and you can go no farther than just enough to see what is on the other side and experince it, then you are yanked back into this reality and then it starts all over again, people do not want to let you go and say thatit is not your time . BUt, how do they know that? And is their desire to keep a person in a certain reality so stong when combined with other's thoughts that they can actualy keep a soul or spirit bound in this 3D realm?
DO you understand what I am trying to say? It is difficult to put into words, but. WEll, I will shut up. I got on a roll about death and aleins and all, but, those are just some of my thoughts.
ANyway, would you feel that you were being kept in a cage and not beng allowed to have free will and leave if there were so many peopel guilt tripping you to have to stay?
ANd if so, how can one break that cycle and just go, blow out of here and move on?
XC
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
www.robertschoch.net
12 February 2007
4 years 50 weeks
Do you want an article about yer failing vision, 'cuz it shows up in yer typos. Yer intelligent, so i know you can spell better than that. I deliberately misspell for humor's sake.
Do you want looney fringe stuff like alien abduction.
Since you didn't mention which drug you played with, but did mention shrooms, meaning psychedelics, peyote, mescaline or whatever, do you want the downside of mind altering drugs, or results of having to live with a drug altered mind,
Do you want an anxiety filled screed ala Kierkegaard. Danes pride themselves on their melancholy, you can't claim to be a Dane if you ain't. Go to Sweden and get a Swedes take on what it means to be Danish, other than their language, to a Swedes ear sounds like they are ready to puke on you, similar to a Germans' reaction of being subjected to folk speaking Dutch and getting their glasses sprayed with spit. Swedes consider spoken Danish a disease, just Germans' describe spoken Dutch as a disease.
So, what, pray tell, other than a meaningless mumbo-jumbo gnostic trip, is your idea of a topic...
24 June 2004
4 years 50 weeks
Jaako we have an understanding here on TDG that unless a post is unreadable we don't discuss their spelling.
We are very lucky to have imaginative people on this forum who can think of more than one way to spell a word.
I think also when you get to know our Colette you will find that she has been more places, seen more things,had far more interesting experiences than you have had or could ever have because you tie yourself to a loony church.
shadows
24 June 2004
4 years 50 weeks
Hey Colette,
Yes I sort of know what you mean.My thinking has changed a heap over the past few years.
You know how for millennia mankind has always thought of itself as the only species of its kind in the universe, and then began to wonder about life elsewhere?
Well I have begun to think that the only thing I really know for sure is that there ARE aliens out there.
It is illogical to think that there aren't.
Now knowing this sort of changes the way I think about things.What if it wasn't God who put us here but aliens.
And we are really just all living in the matrix ala the movie.
Then we could really have our brains messed with.
It must be difficult to have had an experience where the doctors said you died and then you came back.
It has to interfere a little with your concept of yourself.
I have no experience of drugs, just a little morphine in the hospital,but I think it is perhaps the way to go if we want to look into our psyches.
I became interested after reading Graham Hancocks's book Supernatural.
And then the discussion with people in hospital with me who all saw cats when they were dosed with morphine as I also did.
About completing your mission....only you can decide what your mission is and when and if it will be completed.My opinion is that you work hard at what you believe to be the truth to get it out there for people.
shadows
26 February 2005
2 years 44 weeks
I do think there are other beings other then us in this vast space. I do think we have the ability or some of us do to interact with them.
Mission Complete? Yes, I am confused about that. I keep occupied and do my thing. Yes, and that book is the one I was thinking of, the herb from South America or root, ayahuasca??( I do not know how to say it or spell it) Graham talked about beings, just as Terrance Mekkena did, but, they seem like they are the ones that I have had contact with and others, but, we were not on the herb. But, I feel like Shaman experiences are beneficial. I also think that many drugs that alter a person' mind can help them ease up and become more lucid and accept things that they might have a barrier up from before.
Example being, a lady might not want to ever sing, she is afraid, then she takes a few sips of burbon and starts singing like BIllie Holiday and she loves it and wonders why she was so afraid to do it in teh first place.
Yes, I have had lots to think about my life and death. I just read the post of the person who wrote about recently having a near death experience. I wanted to write to them, I feel they are in pain, and trying to understand what happened. I read what they wrote about being here and forgiveness and forgetting. It is difficult, that is acceptance. THe process of acceptance is very difficult at times.
You Shadows and many others that we know here on the Grail are persavering indviduals. WE overcome many things and in doing so and writing about it, we share our thoughts and help oursleves and others and we are not so alone. Many of us are by our selves and reach out to others, a lot of us have physical issues we deal with but still are creative with our minds and write and communicate. WE have frineds all around the world and we never have to leave our computer! We never know who we help that might read soem thing we just wrote innocently and it really was just a casual post, but, some one might read it and it has changed their views on things or helped them in some way we may never know.
I love the Grail and all of its members, it is a great site.
I have been waiting for you to write about some more ghost stories. Remeber when we spoke of the thing that lays on the bed and indents it but you can not see it, you said you had that too. Yepper, there are lots of weird things out there for sure.
Thank you Shadows.
Love, COlette
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
www.robertschoch.net
12 February 2007
4 years 50 weeks
Colette said she had floaters. It can definitely affect the way you type if you can't focus clearly. Did she jump into my case and play God with folks' lives like you do. No. She said nothing, just like you should say nothing that does not pertain directly to your own personal inadequacies.
If Colette was offended, she is intelligent enough to respond herself.
I see your retarded remark as your paranoia. You unloaded bizarre responses to various threads I find it equally inappropriate. You assume you own the thought content of this board. What is your major malfunction with life? Had you come into my clinic when I was working I would not dismiss this is a whimsical joke on your part. Its not my job to be a on line therapist. You need help, why take your persecutorial delusional state out on me or anybody else.
This is not one of your typical bizarre out-of-context cheapshots you take for granted have some therapeutical value for you. I ignoredthem 'cuz I considered the source. My focus is on humor and deflating over-inflated gnostic egos
Since you feel threatened by it, that's a problem for you to take up with yer therapist. I am quite certain, this has been a life-long affliction you have not come to terms with. I am not the cause of it, I certainly will not re-inforce yer petulant ranting
I am quite cool, calm, collected as I write this text. There is no malice or vindictiveness intended, It is an exercise in detached, clinical description of your behavior. I take the snide remarks about my character as part of the price one pays to engage folk on this board.
Since this is an eclectic site with borderline topics, borderline in the sense of sci-fi and no connection with reality. It had zilch humor content even though Greg puts his subtle touch onto topics in his newletter. The I love me who do you love aura in these topics and thread is in itself a factor as to how and why I post the way I do.
Who wants boring, ultradry sawdust. That permeates some topics and threads. As Harry Truman once said if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I deliberately use the generic term gnostics to cover everything that is not true believe christian, that covers a huge spectrum, no?
Come up with a better term that also makes reference to the topics on this website.
1 May 2004
4 years 13 weeks
Dear jaako,
Many of us have been coming here for many years. We understand particular problems akin to certain posters and there is a leeway given out of compassion one for another. We may email one another, better understanding the health issues that comes with old age or accidents or disease. Many of which you have no knowledge of. You have stated that you are a Christian. Practice what you profess to believe, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
If we TDG posters do not rise to your needed/wanted measure of humor and fail to tickle your funny bone, there are many other sites with forums that could provide that for you.
Granted, your posts disturb ones thoughts. My sincere apologies for the alcoholic remark but your poor spelling, ranting, scatological comments and low blows regarding TDG posters seemed as if you were in a drunken outburst. Upon retrospection, go back and read your own words. Therein lies a heap of hate. What part of your own self is it that you despise so much that you must attack others for so little provocation other than your need to be entertained? Pardon my bold leap of this conclusion, you seem to be a very sad individual.
Your not the first nor will you be the last to parody or lambast the members of this site. We have seen your ilk come and go, some stay and grow to care and love one another. It's alright on occasions to be a scoundrel and be silly, tell jokes, poke fun and find humor in the weirdness of some the concepts, or the linked websites. That's the paradigm that we seem to push farther into. What may seem so illogical today may very well be a fact tomorrow.
We do not exclusively do research upon any one area of interest. One day it could be physics, the next day linquistics, a week later all topics focus on archeology, it may be the linen cloth of some buried ancient royal person. The topics are varied and so are the posts and the blogs. We come to listen and learn, speak our personal truths, take up political arguments and lend an ear to a troubled friend.
We come here with questions and quest to find answers. Good journey to you in yours, making friends is far better than making enemies. We come from many differing viewpoints, religions, ethnicities and locations, we may be blendings of all the above.
So, the vitriolic comments get old quick as they are rather transparent. Just be, quit trying so hard to be something your not. Your welcome to spout your own beliefs in your own blog anytime. Welcome to TDG jaako, we are not all bad, nor all good, we are a great deal of what is between.
Sincerely, Pam -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.
1 May 2004
11 weeks 5 days
I don't think many could have put that better Pam.
And Jaako, if you read this, please don't do personal attacks on people, it's not nice.
"While contemplating on their life, anyone who says they have no regrets and would do it all the same again, have not learn't anything."
LRF.
24 June 2004
4 years 50 weeks
I don't know how you would say it in American but in Australia we would say you are a terrific sheila only I don't think people actually talk like that anymore.
You have a delicate way with words, unlike my somewhat sledge-hammer approach.
I will take lessons from you.
love shadows
30 April 2004
26 min 40 sec
Jaako wrote:
I see your retarded remark as your paranoia....What is your major malfunction with life?...You need help, why take your persecutorial delusional state out on me or anybody else.
This is not one of your typical bizarre out-of-context cheapshots you take for granted have some therapeutical value for you. I ignored them 'cuz I considered the source. My focus is on humor and deflating over-inflated gnostic egos.
What a coincidence. My focus is on respect, and banning self-important posters who can't show some to other members. Consider this a first warning Jaako.
I am quite cool, calm, collected as I write this text.
What a shame. You've done yourself out of any possible reason for posting such idiotic remarks.
Since this is an eclectic site with borderline topics, borderline in the sense of sci-fi and no connection with reality. It had zilch humor content even though Greg puts his subtle touch onto topics in his newletter.
I didn't even know I did a newsletter. But seriously, if the site doesn't appeal to you, there are a few million more on the Intarweb that you'd probably enjoy more. Don't let me stop you.
Or, if you want to stick around, pull your head in and show some respect for posters that have been around for a lot longer than you have. For sure, debate topics hard, argue against people, make them challenge their preconceptions. Just don't act like an ass, as you've been doing lately. Because everyone's beginning to suspect that you're an...ass.
Kind regards,
Greg
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26 February 2005
2 years 44 weeks
Aura of love and I will blow hard now so this is quite long.
I made sure I blew, blew blew…..and I took a break, re-powered my machine and I can see and write as long as I just blow blow blow. I am getting a fuller ribcage (I dare say Breasts) or pecs, that is it -- pectorals right? Or something. I hope I spelled that right. Darn. Well, I am getting real strong.
Hello Jerko, I can’t see, I can’t type, I can’t spell, heck, I can’t sit here, what is your name for real? What is it? Jerko, Jack*ss, Junky, Jaco, Jocky as in Hanes? Hey how do you pronounce that anyway? I can’t see the fine print with the bio eyes made from oxygen as fuel to empower my machine, it is a high tech one, just blow and it does as you command with your breath and toot toots. Anyway-- No, I am not really intelligent, I do not know where you got that from. I can not spell at all, I was born with out being able to speak , read or write and God gave me the semi gift of communication, but only on his terms when he feels like it and then I must hold a cross up and worship Christians as they made God in their fashion or mold, or a rib, or was that Man was made of God, what he looks like, I am not sure, I keep getting that back wards. I came on the Grail one day and was lost on a search, I was using my breath machine I blow into that writes for me and takes commands through the tempo of my breath, but, it has to be high powered with the battery to keep it functioning correctly or otherwise it gets dyslexic and it forgets and then it writes these weird things, but I do not know that until some one points it out to me, I guess I called myself a Gnostic, what does that mean, did I say that or did you? I am trying to blow hard here now to get this right, I hope this is working correctly, I had to blow really hard to read what you wrote, this things hooks up to my nostrils too and makes it difficult for me to breath, but Stephen has something like it and I am good friends with him as we both look like each other, but my mouth drops a bit farther down than him, but he is a really nice guy, and he is the one who gave me this device to use so I can communicate. I also have these legs that are made of plastic and Lt. Dan from the Forest Gump movie
( not his real name) gave me some of his spares, (titanium for dress) but, I get around all right. My favorite way of getting around is by deep breaths to make sure Microsoft and its browser works good so I can come here to the Grail and have my fix of entertainment as I can not get to the local store to buy tabloid magazines, but, I am on disability anyway and I cannot afford such luxuries, you will notice when I get out of breath that my spelling gets messed up because the machine is not functioning properly. Sorry, but, I smoked a pipe to night and the doctor said I should not as it will not make good for my breath maker that types and does all my functions for me. It has eyes too, but limited vision, it works with my nose, when I blow real hard through them snotstrils. I am like Pal in the movie 2001, Daisy, daisy, give me your answer do, I’m still crazy over the love 4 U. I am slowing down and this is not working no good so I will wait for a while to let it gear up.
2 hours have gone by now I think , my meter says so, so I will try to blow some more, this is good exercise for my lungs. Well, I should say One lung, the other one collapsed during my open heart surgery recently and then the damn tube they shoved down my throat caused it to get swelled up and soar and sure makes blowing hard for me. I want a computer that hooks up all of the way to the brain, I can just think then, but, there is a problem with that too as I was only registering around 68 on that IQ type test they give people like me.
WOW, I feel like a new bionic woman now……….blow hard, blow hard, that is what I repeat in my mind, but, I must blow as if I am playing the piano as every key to my breath is a signal to this cute device you would love it. It is green and has little yellow flowers on it that were painted on it just for me! My spouse shines it for me, but, not all of the time as he is far away, we only half time him and me due to me having no body, he says he gets tired of polishing my parts. If you saw me though I do not think you would know I am like a mannequin, just with clothes on and some gadgets hooked up to me. He doesn’t mind most of the time. We still get around, he is not embarrassed, he tells people I am his Japanese made Nano robot.
Maybe if I was real nuts one day I would agree to meet you , you seem like a real swell guy……kiss kiss…my honey is not the jealous type. If he was or if you got out of line with me anyway, he could probably whoop the dummies out of you if you were to hijack my machines. So maybe you could teach me all of that good stuff that God says for Christian to do as I said before, oh now, I said fashion – I meant image, yes that is right, I am made in the image of man, I am God, God has all knowing and power and abilities, he can tell me when it is going to rain and I find him better at that then when I turn on this two way radio that I was given also by some nice angels from the local corner church I drive by with this electric wheel chair to talk with them and my direct line with God. I am a special person they call me. But, I have a compact model for travel, and it is also the one I use to ride my chair down the road, hey it takes bumps real good too. I know this machine is not working right as I just dropped some ashes from my pipe into it, damn -- God sorry. Hey, where do you come up with these clever remarks you make? I find them entertaining. I really like it here, the smart ones who can use their brains to reconfigure my letters and red what I write. Now those are the intelligent ones, I can not claim any true thoughts of my own or any writings, I plagiarize every one, the Grail members just put up with me because they are such happy and loving folks, they take strays in like me, Oh good I blew hard enough and my machine is recognizing my rhyme better, I loved what you wrote and wished to you write more. I like reading weird things I think I stated this already, but my brain you see, it stopped working too as it has tumors on it and they do not know what to do with me, they tried to cut but they missed and they whacked out another part of my brain that is used to comprehend, but, I thought I understand what you wrote, Is this machine working now I cant see too good again.
I read everything you wrote. Oh I am running out of breath. I not only have floaters, (do you really think I do? I thought the machine said it was something like floaters but turned into gold spark like things that resembled sperm)I have big bootees too. You were great and I appreciate everything you said so well. But , no do not believe I am intelligent, My friend gave me some of those ideas while he was helping me with my bed pan, This machine I use to do all of these functions for me does not work with bedpans, so he was helping me change positions and he read what you wrote and well, he told me some pretty bad things about you just now. I think you need to go away and quit bothering us over here if you really said those things, gosh, I didn’t read them right because this Breath machine was out of power. Shoot, maybe I was being nice to you and you do not deserve to be my friend or be on their lovely Grail site. Shoot, I do not want to erase what I wrote it has taken me hours to do this so I will not. Look I am tired now and my friend is blowing into my machine now for me and he is all humped over and not standing tall, and his face is getting red now….I think that is funny when that happens. You should see him when he is blue in the face…that is quite a spectacle.. I am starting to slide off my wheel chair now darn it, those people at Medicare didn’t think I needed a flannel lining to keep me upright and this machine, called the “Friendly Breath and Body” is only able to do so much. I hope this is comprehensible to you. Please, I will cry if you tell me you cannot understand as I am an emotionally wrecked woman right now and can not handle any more people making fun of my breath and tell me dumb jokes like “hey take some mints that might help.” when the problems are in the lines and the water condensation that builds up in the tubes from my spit that flies when I have to blow so hard. Please do not make fun of me.. You see this is the first prototype, but as I say, my friend Stephen gave it to me, He is rich, I am poor, but it was nice of him to give this to me, but it does not work all of the time. So you say you are God? Or did I not see that write. You are not my God, and I think Shadows and Pam have other ones too, where do you come from, which planet, we do not talk in neighbor hoods here, we are far out in space and travel light years just to line up to be able to post. How is it you got here so fast to post I never saw you in line are you one of those cheaters? I bet you knock down old ladies too. I will maybe avoid you as I am an old lady now, but, this machine has great torque and I can always roll over you and pop that melon off your shoulders, Pumpkin Jacko, what is your name again. I did like it , I cannot breath and blow to get it right so I think this is the last I will write to you. No bad feelings Jerko, or Jaco, or what is it I have terrible memory. How the Grail puts up with me, I do not know, too 2 many times my machine burns out on me and I do not know what I am writing as I can not see it and it surely maybe may not be what I mean, or I mean, not mean, do you know what I mean?
Ok, This is farewell and adios sucker. I will use spell check on it in a few minutes. That takes very controlled breathing and at a very fast pace as it talks to me and says it has many characters it has to look at and type out. Sometimes I think it is lazy. But, you know what? OH, I just love it for where would I be with out it. I was not born as normal were you?
Oh yeah, Hey Shadows and Pam, the Aliens did get in touch with me tonight earlier. They told me to try to get in bed at a decent hour and they will meet up with me later. I hope to see them here soon, I will tell them hi for you and also Dr.RS sends all of his love and greetings. He is very proud I made it through this session to night with out going into convulsions. It is great to have such a wonderful partner that lubes my gears and uses the correct plastic glue to fix my lines.
Breathe On SISTERS!
Love, Colette
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
www.robertschoch.net
24 June 2004
4 years 50 weeks
Colette please make sure you keep your breather well oiled and in good repair.
Maybe you should trade it in for a new model.
I was thinking about the ghost stories, and will write some on a blog as we are messing up this thread.
Yes I agree, breathe on SISTERS!
We will overcome.
love shadows
26 February 2005
2 years 44 weeks
Hello Shadowes and Pam , FLoppy, Greg and all,
Just giving that person a razz.....I thought that was odd to read that kind of posting from some one???I do not know that person - it was not Grail quality. I am glad there were warnings. We need to all keep the integrity of this site up, it is all of us . I was showing how ludicrous some writing can be.
I am getting greased up and lubed as able, even use WD40 at times. I have been laying low lately as needed.
I like being able to visit with my friends agian here. It is real nice. I have been reading about argofalcon, and I have much empathy.
Yes, lets get away from this thread and leave it for voters.
THank you and Pam and Floppy and Greg and every one for being supportive.
Really, it warmed me .
I am so glad to be back home.
Yes, some ghosts stories please.
VARIOUS is what I voted -- now getting back on topic!
XCXCXC
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
www.robertschoch.net
12 February 2007
4 years 50 weeks
He was only 55 y.o, a heavy smoking work-a-holic. He was a pleasant guy to talk to when he wasn't under pressure to get work done. He was self-employed. He also went thru 2 marriages to very nice women who asked him politely to work less, they would learn how to get by on less on the material things of life. He didn't have anytime to enjoy life he was driven by the good old cherman protestant work ethic, as compared to the protestant work of other cultures. Yet he wasn't churchy, he never went to church.
He developed a smokers cough and ignored it in his 30's. His material wealth increased over time. He actually did quite well in a rather off beat island in the Caribbean. After he lost his 2nd wife and 2 kids, who moved to the main land to get away from native unrest on the island, he made a interesting choice. He commuted by way of Puerto Rico to the States, he did this week ending trip for 3 years. He had to support 3 locations, his apartment, his home for his family, his business..
If you wonder why I digress and let you know about things that happen in my family, that are not actually funny things. I have a very intense personal interaction human side with folk who have both feet firmly planted on the ground. Once folk get airborne, and their feet get firmly planted in mid air they get a new lifestyle, no? They deliberately set themselves aside from eartbound humanity,
We earthbounders are quite amused by musings and antics of wanna be ETs still trapped by earth's gravity. The closest they can do to get into the aether zone is thru their fertile imaginations. Philip K Dick is a good example, no?
What happened to Philip K Dick. A buddy of mine who translated his books over here went to California to meet him to get some passages he wrote explained to him so that an exact as possible translation could occur. They tried to do it by exchange of letters but Dick wrote his mail was being opened he can't do that.
Philip K Dick ended up quite isolated as a result of his dabblings in esoteric arcana of life. my buddy who personally met and discussed his work in translation watched Dick get up, look out the windows, wondering if his conversation was vibrating the window panes and placed pillows against them to absorb these vibrations. Dick told my friend he was certain every word he said was being overheard.
I digress, especially to Philip K Dick is that my wife learned how to read English by reading Dick's work. She read sci-fi for its diversity. Her brother took Dick's books to read on the plane trips he made. The world suddenly becomes a small place, no? By reconstructing his encounter with Philip K Dick, our translator friend, a college buddy of my wife, we felt as though we were part of Philip K Dicks extended family even though my wife and I never met him personally.
Now, to the death throes of my bro-in-law. He met a 3rd woman who had been thru 5 divorces. This gal really wore her heart on her sleeve. She genuinely became attached to each husband but somehow found herself supporting them instead of them supporting her, ergo, they had to go
This was not an overnight thing so by the time she hit age 50 she told me each marriage lasted on average 5-6 years. She is still on speaking terms with them, interestingly enough, She felt felt the Good Lord answered her prayers when she met my bro-in-law. She was never subjected to a work-ä-holic husband before. They stayed in the Caribbean til local politics made it impossible to stay in business. He lost everything and had to start all over again.
They moved to Florida, where competition was horrendous, to say the least. It took a couple of years to get established and his breathing had to be assisted. This led to a series of short hospitalizations that wiped out what litttle savings they had. The business he started had to be sold to pay the bills.
They were so desparate for medications they asked if they could borrow 5,000 bux for treatments for him. His fiancee called my wife and said can you come over and cheer him up. At this point he could only talk thru short gasps, short words, yes and no type questions had to be asked. 2 days after my wife arrrived, he died in her arms, just like her own mom did 5 years earlier, from cancer
Yes, I know how precious life is, I know how much people suffer. I had to watch my little 4 y.o brother die of jaw cancer when I was 8 y,o. I know when its time for me to go I will spare my nearest and dearest of that trauma, There are many places my relatives are, scattered all over Europe. Some of them have cute little summer cottages in woodland settings, the ideal place to go and slumber off in.
For folk here on this board to jump to conclusions about me the human being, you can always jump all over my nom de plume, bubba. He thrives on humor yawl, he sees humor in the strangest of places on these threads. He's amazed how folk can get their ET mojo going, he takes for granted these escapes from earthbound reality is their personal humor therapy.
I sadly mentioned in another thread, who's to say I won't witness the demise of every poster to this board. To me that would be sad, Colette said she likes the weird stuff folk say and write. I took the banter I experienced as de rigeur comment on the part of everyday gnostics seeking their illumination, their enlightenment. I discovered the gnostic agenda here is not tolerant of humor that sees the ludicrousness of life in the aether zone we can't physically occupy, but can only escape to verbally.
I don't attack anybody's belief in God but gnostics here feel free to go for the jugular when it comes to mentioning Christianity. I said. I don't Judge, Jesus does. If that concept bothers ya, how do you survive in a society that bases its laws of the 10 Commandments. That bothers some folk as well. Its seen as me jamming religion down their throat.
If I come across as irreverent its 'cuz I know nobody is perfect, they got warts, they fart, they get upset with life. Here they look for solace in an open forum, which lends itself to outside probity. Greg said look elsewhere. My take on it is he assumes if folk don't like his observation about topics he posts, my mistake to call it a newsletter, even though it blogs, folk can just mosy along in cyber space.
He set it up to be eclectic and quirky, link to the aether zone crowd. If that is not yer purpose Greg, why is it suddenly a clubby extended family that can e-mail to each other instead of on an open forum. Common sense to me is keep private things private, public things public. How does a casual surfer browsing thru know if a thread is open or closed, private or public?
30 April 2004
26 min 40 sec
Jaako wrote:
If that is not yer purpose Greg, why is it suddenly a clubby extended family that can e-mail to each other instead of on an open forum. Common sense to me is keep private things private, public things public. How does a casual surfer browsing thru know if a thread is open or closed, private or public?
Jaako, you were not pulled up for intruding on a closed thread, you were pulled up for calling Shadows' comments "retarded", asking what her "major malfunction with life" was, and saying that she was in a "persecutorial delusional state".
All threads are open here on TDG, it just helps to talk like well-mannered human being if you want some reciprocal respect. Hopefully you've grasped it this time?
Kind regards,
Greg
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You monkeys only think you're running things
24 June 2004
4 years 50 weeks
Jaako, you do not keep private things private, nor public things public.
We know all about your bowels and your family illnesses.
If you think I go for the jugular on Christianity, you should try me on racism, homosexuality,sexism......
Another thing.....our humour is a little different from yours.For a start it is not inyerface.You need to know people to know when they are pulling your leg.
Or taking the mickey.
My sons have taking the mickey down to a fine art with me.They are so good that they get cheeky with it, thinking I am thaaaat dumb.
Some of us, a lot of us, have been around this forum for a long time....so long that we have grown into the furniture.
We have become a family, not realising that we were.
I have said before on this forum that a family can consist of whatever you want it to be.
My own family is me, 2 little mad dogs, and a parrot that wants me to make love to it.
Stick around, you might surprise yourself by getting into the groove.It may not be the groove you are used to, but we ain't complainin'.
shadows
3 June 2007
3 years 50 weeks
Should TDG be unable to fund a fecund collection of anthologies like Disinformation, it only makes sense to cover as many subjects as possible. Besides, part of the interest for me is how, say, Art History, Occultism, and Consciousness connect... so the more in one place the better for me, particularly if the collected elements connect on some theme (even loosely).
I would, of course, encourage you to make anthologies of all these individual subjects. Until that happens, my vote is for multiplicity.
Thanks for doing all this collection and research, everyone @ TDG. I'm new here, finding out about your nook from toolband and looking in from time to time, and I really like it here. Thanks for putting together so much of what I find interesting!
24 June 2004
4 years 50 weeks
We talk about all sorts of things here, even things we shouldn't.
You sound to me like you will be a welcome addition to the family.
shadows
3 June 2007
3 years 50 weeks
Thanks a lot, shadows. I hope I can contribute reports of investigations of my own eventually. I'm very happy to be here among such interesting & inquisitive folks, and I thank you for the warm welcome. Keep up the good work. I'll pipe up from time to time.
hugs.
.ross.
4 July 2007
4 years 44 weeks
"Best of the Quest"
10 January 2005
3 years 47 weeks
I think I would vote for various because all the subjects are interesting-however-we will all face death which is something I am not afraid of. I sort of feel egyptian like because of all the books I have collected regarding the egyptian afterlife and the interest I have in egypt as a whole.
22 November 2004
5 weeks 1 day
Perhaps start by saying the first one is part of a trilogy,
and the first volume has emphasis on [something], but is has other things too.
Promise more, with emphasis on [something-else].
Asimov's has done something like this for longer than most of us have been alive, and it works pretty good.
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You can observe a lot, just by watching. (Yogi Berra)
2 May 2007
1 year 40 weeks
I voted for various.
I've always enjoyed the variety of subjects, to narrow the field to a topic would diminish why I come here.
28 June 2006
16 weeks 4 days
I previously voted for the various, and stand by that vote. It did, however, occur to me that it might be advantagious to use a different subject on a rotational basis each month.
22 November 2004
5 weeks 1 day
I am sorry this is really silly.
At the end of this, maybe in 50 or 100 years, can we have a "best of earthling" issue? Or maybe , to be more realitic , a "worst of earthling".
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Wanderer, kommst Du nach Liechtenstein - tritt nicht daneben, tritt mitten rein.