Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome: Myth or Reality?

"Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome: Myth or Reality?"

By Fahim A. Knight-EL

This writer was reflecting on some chain of events that has recently occurred relative to various conversation he has had with African Americans that represented a differential of political perspectives and after these conversations he began to reflect even further on his own personal experiences and the collective experiences as Africans and/or as African Americans (a term that I am not so fond of). Thus, after receiving a very inflammatory and mean-spirited email from an African American; it cause me to reflect even deeper because certain conduct and behavior that we as African Americans demonstrate is often not created in a vacuum, but it is often tied to our collective experience as a people in the United States. (Reference: Haki R. Madhubuti; “Claiming Earth: Race, Rage, Rape, Redemption: Blacks Seeking A Culture of Enlightened Empowerment).

We have never had a serious and honest conversation in the United States of America about Race and how race affected the development of our social, political, and economic institutions in America and the attitudes that have been formed by this reality. Moreover, this dishonesty is at the root of the many racial discords—ranging from suspiciousness, stereotypes, lack of ethnic trust, disharmony, etc. This writer lives in Durham, North Carolina and we are fortunate to have in our city Duke University, one of the foremost academic institutions in the United States. (Reference: Tim Wise; "White Like Me: Reflections on Race From a Privileged Son").

This writer has had the opportunity over the many years to talk with one of the premier African-American historians in the United States named Dr. John Hope Franklin who is a professor emeritus and author of perhaps one of the most widely published and read black history books in the history of the United States titled, "From Slavery to Freedom". Also, was appointed to President Bill Clinton's Race Commission. This writer was first introduced to Dr. Franklin in the early 1980s by one of my mentors, the late Dr. Earlie Thorpe at North Carolina Central University another academic jewel in the city of Durham, North Carolina. Dr. Franklin has to be over ninety (90) years of age and although he is perhaps one of the most celebrated historians in America; I believe his personal experience of being born during the height of the turbulent Jim Crow Era has always compromised his ability to confront the issues of Race and Racism aggressively in his writings as opposed to assessing and evaluating this pandemic with tempered fear. Yet, within the United States we are perhaps prepared to elect an African American to the highest office in the world—president of the United States and some will use this symbolic token as the epitome of social progress for African Americans and once again relegate this 450 year old needed debate to the level of being an insignificant and unnecessary discussion. (Reference: Sultan Abdul Latif and Naimah Latif; "Slavery: The African American Psychic Trauma").

However, this writer does think that the entire question and equation of race in the superficial realm, is often instigated and is given a premise to exist by the dominant society, in particular the powers-that-be, which to divert attention from what is really going on and is design to consume humanity in useless battles of artificial barriers and divisive conflicts (of divide and conquer schemes). Thus, this writer, is fully aware of this plot and is very clear about the enemies perspective and motive; then it might appear as a contradiction to many readers around the world who read the KEEPING IT REAL THINK TANK articles and the number of blogs that I have posted relative to assessing and evaluating the question of race and politics; in particular in the United States. (Reference: Cornel West; "Race Matters).

The psyche of black humanity in the U.S. was partially shaped by a history of oppression, tyranny and racism; these variables had a deep and everlasting affect on the psychological and collective conscious of these people who were deemed Chattel Slaves (1555-1865) and their descendants. Thus, right after slavery, the United States Supreme Court in 1896 passed Plessy Versus Ferguson (Separate, But Equal legislation and laws), which ushered in Jim Crow laws and segregation. This period lasted until 1954 (Brown V. The Board of Education) in which the High Court legally struck down Plessy v. Ferguson and declared Separate but Equal as being unconstitutional. This social and political history created a political and social dichotomy in America—blacks were never accepted as "full Americans". (Reference: C. Vann Woodard; The Strange Career of Jim Crow”).

So, when you see and hear a Minister Louis Farrakhan, Ben Ammi, Dick Gregory, Malik Zulu Shabazz, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, etc, you must understand that a Black Liberation Theology evolved out of a need for diaspora blacks to reaffirm their cultural and religious identity in the same way there was a need to re-affirm their "Americanism" by forcing America to live up to his creed as it was written within the language given in the United States Constitution. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. socially agitated and this led to the passing of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and 1965 Voting Rights Act. These were necessary steps to ensure that the question of race did not enter into the legality of this democracy and the jurisprudence system needed to reflect these measures. But it does not matter how much you legislate, you can not dictate or control people and individuals—group norms, folkways, mores, values, etc. The culture of racism had become entrenched even in the Christian and religious doctrines of America. The religious teachings, images, symbolism, etc., reflected the dominant culture and Black Liberation Theology articulated by James Cone, Cecil Cone, Albert Cleage and others sought to balance this equation. There is a good book written by a former Georgia State University psychologist named Dr. Asa G. Hilliard titled, "The Reawakening of the African Mind."

This writer was given a CD speech titled, "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome" by my cousin George Knight from New Jersey last year and it took me a year to listen to the speech because I believe that the Creator decided upon the time I should have this life changing experience. This sister who authored this work is named Dr. Joy DeGruy Leary; she is a sociologist and psychologist by profession. Dr Leary also is the author a book titled, "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome: America’s Legacy of Enduring Injury and Healing She maintained in her scholarship that African Americans as a collective race of people, although, 450 years later are still suffering from 'Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome". The 310 years of physical and psychological abuse has rendered us as a damaged people both psychologically and emotionally.

Dr. Naim Akbar who is a psychologist on the staff at Florida State University and author of the book titled, "Chains and Images of Psychological Slavery" he stated: "Slavery was 'legally' ended in excess of 100 years ago, but the over 300 years experienced in its brutality and unnaturalness constituted a severe psychological and social shock to the minds of African-Americans. This shock was so destructive to natural life processes that the current generation of African-Americans, though we are 5-6 generations removed from the actual experience in both our social and mental lives. Psychologists and sociologists have failed to attend to the persistence of problems in our mental and social lives, which clearly have their roots in slavery. Only the historians have given proper attention to the shattering realties of slavery, and have dealt with it only as descriptive of past events." (Reference: Naim Akbar; “Chains and Images of Psychological Slavery”).

But what was interesting about this study or should I say, the focus of the scholarship dealt with HEALING and we as a collective ethnic group after the trauma of slavery were never given the proper therapy (mental health treatment like other post traumatic stress disorder victims); and the pathology of slavery scarred us deeply. Therefore, in our present day lives as African Americans we still demonstrate behavior and conduct that is consistent with "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome"; all 30-40 million blacks in this country were passed by-way of DNA and genetic coding the symptoms of trauma. So, when I see an African (African American) demonstrating violent behavior, self-hatred, using abusive language, and acting out anti-social behavior against another black person or against another human being, I know that their behavior is a direct result of lacking HEALING and their own victimization has turned inwardly towards another African. (Claud Anderson: “PowerNomics: The National Plan to Empower Black America).

Prior to listening to this CD titled, "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome" I must say I did not totally understand some of our negative behavior, as far as the root cause and effect. If I can, I am going to make an attempt to get every family member a copy of that message, so you all can identify and benefit from this awesome information (we live in an information age). This study provided me with a greater insight as it relates to determining and identifying certain negative conduct and behavior demonstrated by African Americans, which should be placed in its proper context of "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome" and not only is the purveyors of the anti-social behavior a victim of this illness and pathology, but we all are victims because a system of white supremacy never allowed us the proper channels to HEAL. The next reflection I had, was when I was a freshmen in college. This writer was given perhaps one of the most important books that I have ever read titled, "The Mis-Education of the Negro" authored in 1933 by Dr. Carter G. Woodson.. Woodson maintained that western education had failed us as individuals and as a collective race of people. Western Education supported the idea that Africans were inferior and gave nothing to civilization and Africa was considered the "Dark Continent", but whites and Europeans so-called enlightened world society by given the world science, architecture, art, religion, math, etc., through our western education and training, we internalized deep rooted self-hatred for our selves and each other. (Carter G. Woodson; “The Mis-Education of the Negro”).

Our Mis-Education was systemic and we were taught to hate ourselves and anything black (African) and our present day negative behavior towards each other is a direct result of our Mis-Education. We were taught to adopt their mores, folkways and values, which lacks harmony with the universe and our spirit of MAAT (balance and equilibrium) with heavy emphasis on negating our culture and heritage. Thus, certain conduct we demonstrate is coming from a history of Mis-Education and the email I received must be received as an act of Mis-Education, but we all are victims of Mis-Education, which takes us back to the HEALING process and the devastating affects Chattel Slavery had on Africans who survived the dehumanization of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and the Middle Passage. (Reference: Claud Anderson: Black Labor, White Wealth: The Search for Power and Economic Justice”).

Many of us do not know that we are Mis-Educated and are suffering from "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome" I know that I am, but after being in the counseling profession for many years, the first step to curing any illness is admittance. Dr. Leary stated: "The root of this denial for the dominant culture is fear, and fear mutates into all kinds of things: psychological projection, distorted and sensationalized representations in the media, and the manipulation of science to justify the legal rights and treatment of people. That’s why it’s become so hard to unravel”.

“Unfortunately, many European Americans have a very hard time even hearing a person of color express their experiences. The prevailing psychological mechanism is the idea, “I’ve not experienced it, so it cannot be happening for you.”

“Truly, how can anyone tell me what I have and have not experienced? This is a very paternalistic manifestation of white supremacy, the idea that African Americans and other people of color can be told, with great authority, what their ancestor’s lives were like and even what their own, present-day lives are like. The result for those on the receiving end of this kind of distortion is an aspect of PTSS. People begin to doubt themselves, their experiences, and their worth in society because they have been so invalidated their whole lives, in so many ways”. (Reference Silja J.A. Talvi; On-Line Web Magazine “In These Times” Article titled, “Post 'Traumatic Slave Syndrome; Dr. Joy DeGruy Leary talks About Her Provocative New Book”)

I have been mentoring perhaps ten (10) young African American male college students for over the past two years as part of the outreach wing of the KEEPING IT REAL THINK TANK and we have learned to talk openly as a method of HEALING—we delve into the African experience on many different levels, the topic varies from week to week. I would like to think these young men have benefited from my knowledge base and experience. We talked about the state of their HIP-HOP culture and the responsibility they have to lead their peers in a positive direction. A few of these young men have recently graduated from North Carolina Central University; they have since come back to thank me for assisting them in their educational plights.

There is a great African Centered psychiatrist in the Washington D.C. area named Dr. Frances Cress Welsing; she is more than qualified to give us the HEALING we need. She authored the book titled the "Isis Papers". Also, there is Dr. Naim Akbar (author of "Chains and Images of Psychological Slavery) and there is Dr. Kobi Kambon author of "AFRICAN/BLACK PSYCHOLOGY IN THE AMERICAN CONTEXT: AN AFRICAN-CENTERED APPROACH”. Now! Those who live in the Raleigh-Durham area there is Dr. Baba Kamou Kambon (author of “The Last Black man Standing”, we all must pursue HEALING. The sender of that vitriol and divisive email may not even know that he is sick, but I am taking my time to write this and to bring some understanding of why, we do what we do. I AM NOT ANGRY AT MY BROTHER HE IS A VICTIM JUST LIKE ME AND ALL OF US WHO ARE AFRICANS.

Finally, I attended the Million Man March back on October 16, 1995 and Minister Louis Farrakhan gave the Black men present that day a pledge and I had just recently quoted this pledge, but I see the necessity to re-state this timely pledge again in this writing . I do not know, if the sender of that email attended the Million Man March; but this is what Minister Farrakhan asked us as black men to pledge and honor:

I pledge that from this day forward, I will strive to love my Brother as I love myself.

I pledge from this day forward, I will strive to improve myself spiritually, morally, socially, politically and economically for the benefit myself, my family and my people.

I pledge that I will strive to build businesses, build houses, build hospitals, build factories, and enter into international trade, for the good of myself, and my people.

I pledge, that from this forward, I will never raise my hand with a knife or a gun to beat, hurt, or shoot any member of my family, or any human being, except in self-defense.

I pledge, that from this forward, I will never abuse my wife by striking her or disrespecting her, for she is the mother of my children and the producer of my future.

I pledge, that from this forward, I will never engage in the abuse of children--little boys or little girls--for sexual gratification. But I will let them grow in peace to be strong men and women for the future of our people.

I will never again use the 'B' word to describe any female, but particular my own black sister.

I pledge, that from this forward, I will not poison my body with drugs or that which is destructive to my health and well being.

I pledge, that from this forward, I will support Black newspapers, Black radio, and black television. I will support Black artists who clean up their acts to show respect for themselves and respect for their people, and respect for the ears of the human family. (Reference: Kim Martin Sadler; “Atonement, The Million Man March”).

Although this article has more to do with "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome" and Healing I would be remissed in my duty, if I did not briefly touch on the slave trade, but the article did not sought this angle as its focus. There is a book titled "The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews" authored by the Nation of Islam's Historical Research Department back in 1991; which published perhaps one of the most controversial books to be written in the late 20th Century. The research looked at credible and authentic Jewish sources and historical records to assess and evaluate what the Jewish involvement was in Transatlantic Slave Trade and the Middle Passage (1440s --1807). The Nation of Islam researchers found that there were overwhelmingly Jewish involvement on every level—buying and selling of slaves—to owning disproportional numbers of slave plantations. They discovered that some of the Jewish Slave Merchants used Gentile and European names and played a much larger role in the African Slave Trade than what was previously known. They were large on the financier end, slave brokers, owners, plantation owners, etc. Moreover, some Jews equated the Nation of Islam book the ”The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews" as equivalent to "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" and tried to dismissed it as anti-Semitic material. (Reference: Nation of Islam Historical Research Department; The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews).

The Simon Wiesenthal Center hired Jewish Scholar Harold Brackman who wrote the anti-thesis to the Nation of Islam research titled, " Ministry of Lies: The Truth Behind "The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews" Brackman tried to refute and discredit the Nation of Islam scholars as using shoddy research methods and less than ingenious Jewish scholars as their verification sources. But the Nation of Islam researchers opened up a new research arena and as much as the European Nations played huge roles in the African Slave Trade, but they found something more sinister relative to the "secret" Jewish involvement who even used Gentile Front men to disguise the level of their involvement. Many scholars black and white are fearful of Zionist reprisals and even more fearful of being labeled anti-Semitic, which might cost them their academic careers, if they were to touch the subject of Jewish involvement in the African Slave Trade. Therefore, this subject has not received the needed scholarly attention to either confirm or discredit "The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews". But they will not even allow a sensible debate to occur on the topic and subject without yelling "anti-Semitism". The powerful Jewish Lobby groups went after the Afrocentric scholars for daring to suggest and expose Jewish involvement in the African Slave Trade. They went after Dr. Tony Martin, Dr. Leonard Jefferies, Dr. Khallid Abdul Muhammad, Dr. John Henrik Clarke, etc. They also accused Minister Louis Farrakhan of being the sole author of the book and the Nation of Islam was attacked from every direction by Zionist forces. I am still objective and personally would like to see a greater debate on this issue. (Reference: Tony Martin; The Jewish Onslaught).

We must also understand that it was an inhumane process that the Europeans and American slave masters used to take an African and turn them into a "Negro" and it is nowhere better described, analyzed, and revealed than written in the Willie Lynch letter delivered by William Lynch on the bank of the James River in 1712. This letter reflects the depth of the crime and the inhumanness of the perpetrators and in all of my research this writer has not read anything so descriptive relative to the making of the African slave. This letter in my opinion gives intellectual and scholarly credence to Dr. Leary hypothesis of present day African-Americans could be suffering from "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome" There is little doubt that the European nations of France, United Kingdom, Spain, Germany, Portugal, Belgium, etc., and yes the Arabs are guilty of one of the greatest crimes ever perpetrated against humanity--Chattel Slavery. (Reference: JC deGraft-Johnson; “African Glory: Story of Vanished Negro Civilization”).

"THE WILLIE LYNCH LETTER AND THE MAKING OF THE SLAVE"

“Gentlemen. I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies , where I have experimented with some of the newest and still the oldest methods for control of slaves. Ancient Rome 's would envy us if my program is implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we Cherish, I saw enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of wood as crosses for standing human bodies along its highways in great numbers, you are here using the tree and the rope on occasions. “

“I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree, a couple miles back. You are not only losing valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, You suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed. Gentlemen, you know what your problems are; I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them”.

“In my bag here, I HAVE A FULL PROOF METHOD FOR CONTROLLING YOUR BLACK SLAVES. I guarantee every one of you that if installed correctly IT WILL CONTROL THE SLAVES FOR AT LEAST 300 HUNDREDS YEARS. My method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it”.

“I HAVE OUTLINED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENCES AMONG THE SLAVES; AND I TAKE THESE DIFFERENCES AND MAKE THEM BIGGER. I USE FEAR, DISTRUST AND ENVY FOR CONTROL PURPOSES. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little list of differences and think about them. On top of my list is "AGE" but it's there only because it starts with an "A." The second is "COLOR" or shade, there is INTELLIGENCE, SIZE, SEX, SIZES OF PLANTATIONS, STATUS on plantations, ATTITUDE of owners, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, course hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you a outline of action, but before that, I shall assure you that DISTRUST IS STRONGER THAN TRUST AND ENVY STRONGER THAN ADULATION, RESPECT OR ADMIRATION”.

“The Black slaves after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self refueling and self generating for HUNDREDS of years, maybe THOUSANDS. Don't forget you must pitch the OLD black Male vs. the YOUNG black Male, and the YOUNG black Male against the OLD black male. You must use the DARK skin slaves vs. the LIGHT skin slaves, and the LIGHT skin slaves vs. the DARK skin slaves. You must use the FEMALE vs. the MALE. And the MALE vs. the FEMALE. You must also have you white servants and over- seers distrust all Blacks. But it is NECESSARY THAT YOUR SLAVES TRUST AND DEPEND ON US. THEY MUST LOVE, RESPECT AND TRUST ONLY US”.

“Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and children use them, never miss an opportunity. IF USED INTENSELY FOR ONE YEAR, THE SLAVES THEMSELVES WILL REMAIN PERPETUALLY DISTRUSTFUL. Thank you gentlemen."

Fahim A. Knight Chief Researcher for KEEPING IT REAL THINK TANK located in Durham, NC; our mission is to inform African Americans and all people of good will of the pending dangers that lie ahead; as well as decode the symbolisms and reinterpret the hidden meanings behind those who operate as invisible forces, but covertly rules the world. We are of the belief that an enlighten world will be better prepared to throw off the shackles of ignorance and not be willing participants for the slaughter. Our MOTTO is speaking truth to power. Fahim A. Knight can be reached at fahimknight@yahoo.com.

Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight

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After reading your article Fahim, I have 2 questions:

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all 30-40 million blacks in this country were passed by-way of DNA and genetic coding the symptoms of trauma

1: So, do you believe in genetic memory? That emotional traumas and learned behaviors can be inherited biologically?

And 2: Did the lady who wrote the book about the Post-traumatic slave syndrome gave any sort of steps towards this healing process you speak of? What sort of process can the American black community follow to forgive the white and jewish and oriental and black men who were part of the slave trade that brought their ancestors in bondage to the New World.

I write about forgiveness, because in my limited experience I've found that it is an essential part of any healing process. Just look at the mess the Caholic Church has made with all the victims of sexual abuse; there has clearly not been a reach to forgiveness in that particular problem, and thus for these victims healing remains unattainable.

Time to go to bed. Have a good night :-)

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Admittance and Recovery Equals Healing, Which Equals Forgiveness

Good Morning Red Pill thank you for the comments. But let me first say I had heard in theory of Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome some years ago, but as a social scientist this psychological and social concept was not well defined for me. Yes. I think genetic memory is applausible theory because the human body is a microcosm of the universe and I think our experiences (good or bad) can be captivated in our DNA/gene pool and transferred to our offsprings. So in that belief (although science does not functions off belief but emperical arguments that has being counted and measured) and in one sense this is what separates pure science from the discipline of social science)I think Dr. Leary's theory is possible. Now! I think healing can not take place until there is an admittance that historically chattel slavery was wrong, immoral, inhumane and we must start an honest conversation about Race and Racism; something we have never had in the United States and then only can forgiveness began to take place; because the HEALING is perhaps more essential than any other component in this 450 year dilemma. These historical victims (meaning the descendants) of this crime after that point must pursue Atonement, Reconcilation and Responsiblity.

Here Is an interesting email I received at the The Keeping It Real Think Tank yesterday that I would like to share with the TDG Family perhaps this will also help to answer some of your questions. The writer is woman named Peggy Seats and this was her response to my article "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome: Myth or Reality?"

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Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome: Myth or Reality?
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This writer has had the opportunity over the many years to talk with one of the premier African-American historians in the United States named Dr. John Hope Franklin who is a professor emeritus and author of perhaps one of the most ...
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Greetings, This morning my e-mail included a google report on one of my Heroes, Dr, John Hope Franklin, which led to your blog report above on Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome.

Dr. Franklin, I must say, is far more radical than you perceive. His impact could not be as far reaching asits been without a gift of diplomacy and his taking the high road that is necessary for a broader audience versus to one's own ethnic ilk alone. Let me say, your article was a joy to read. It echoes my sentiments profoundly, and certainly speaks truth to power big time. It is thorough, concise, well thought out and summarizes our tragic psychological plight to a tee.

That demon, willie lynch, truly laid some strong toxic poison on our psyche when he provided his co-horts with the formula for ensuring the long term effects of post traumatic slave syndrome. And, as he foretold, it has lasted already for 300 years; and unfortunately, unless we start to better address our malady by owning up to it and making a concerted effort to cure it, rather than trying to ignore it away, I fear he may be right in that it has the prospect to lasting, heaven forbid,thousands of years.

I already see a permanent underclass in the making within our global community. We now have the over achievers and those not even graduating high school in a highly sophisticated, technologically dominated social order that represents the majority, and almost nothing in between. That's the making of a permanent caste system. Tragically, as our legacy is unfolding, I fear his prognostication may prove true if we do not, en masse, begin to take a long, hard look at the depth and extinct of our self-loathing maladies as a people. Unfortunately, most of us are in total denial and/or totally impervious to the extent of our illness.And, you know how the axiom goes: You can't cure an affliction until you own up to it.

As a people, we got this self hate affliction so bad that we don't know we got it, and that's a major problem. Mind control, inculcation of white supremacy media tactics [camera angles, secondary positioning, use of light and shadow, length of time being featured versus primary, centralized featured subject matter, etc.];and the use of status symbols [monuments, materialism, rank, skewed beauty standards, privilege, access, power, toys, deities that don't look like us - heck we're even afraid to have God look like us], all play key roles in helping to indoctrinate the constant on-slaught of tactics for perpetuating racism, aka white supremacy, and self hate.

Yet the victims [former chattel slaves, now modern day slaves] are totally impervious to the tools and mind control tactics being waged against them and are consequently totally unable to filter out any of the constant barrage of mind control garbage that berates and reduces them to a state of inferiority complex illness. This barrage of mind control has a control over our minds that is massively more potent and toxic than chattel slavery ever was. Mind control, marketing, media, are true sciences -- they work! At least as chattel slaves, we knew we weren't free, but as psychological slaves we think that we're free. As a people, Africans in the diaspora, and especially in America, think that we are free when in fact all of our actions are totally controlled by this silent, undercover culprit, that is so aptly described as Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome. It's effects are indeed more lethal than physical slavery as we are now on automatic pilot, as willie lynch foretold, carrying out our own demise.

We now aid and abet in our fratricide,genocide and oppression with far greater proficiency than the oppressors ever could. Our self destruction is now the norm rather than the exception. We block, kill, maim, hate on, envy, disrespect and generally just self destruct and self loathe on ourselves with a greater proficiency than any outsiders ever could. At least when the outsiders were committing the atrocities directly against us, we had the clarity of identifying the culprit. Now we don't recognize the invisible culprit and we voluntarily carry out our self annihilation with a blind enthusiasm that is tragically laughable to anyone with the clarity of vision to witness and analyze the very sad affliction that has overcome people of color the world over.

Yes, the colonization of African people, and other people of color, is global; yet there has never been a conquest more cruel and barbaric in nature than that which was and has been imposed on African-Americans and Africans. The sad truth is, we aid and abet with our own self destruction with a rabid abandonment that is mind boggling, no matter the educational level, no matter the social status, no matter the financial strata, no matter the social, civic and/or political affiliation. Black people have become black people's own worse enemy. And the sooner we recognize the plague we suffer from as a self-loathing people, the sooner we will beable to:

1) intervene in the madness such as the nouveau riche snubbing theirown kind rather than reaching back to help their own kind, and particularlythose who are endeavoring to lift our people up through social/civic agendas;

2) stop committing fratricide on one another, killing and maiming oneanother like flies;

3) being envious and jealous of one another, aka, playah hating, to thepoint of precluding opportunities for collaboration and nation building;

4) stop buying into the myth of white supremacy;

5) stop putting other ethnicity's and communities above and before our own;

6) stop under appreciating our own God given beauty and buying into the myth of others being more blessed in physical endowments than us;

7) stop worshipping false gods who are identical in physical composition to our enslavers;

8) stop bestraying ourselves, our women and children in preference for others;

9) our men stop putting other women, men and children above their own;

10) discontinue our inability to collaborate on anything positive and nation building in nature;

11) stop the lack of respect for our Elders, Ancestors and History, and

12) discontinue having a total disrespect and devaluation of anything that is indigenous to us and our specific legacy and ownership [a malignant and devastating side effect of post jim crow integration].

Thank you so much for your recognition of the greatness of Dr. John HopeFranklin; Dr. John Henrik Clarke; Dr. Leonard Jefferies; Dr. Nakim Akbar;Dr. Asa Hilliard; Dr. Tony Martin; Dr. Khallid Abdul Muhammad; Dr. Francis Cress Welsing; et. al academic scholars like them such as Dr. Ben, WalterRodney, Frantz Fanon, Dr. Booker T. Washington, Dr. Ivan Van Sertima; Mary McLeod Bethune, and those who came many eons before them including so many others whom God has sent to help pull us out of abysmal darkness and into the Light of Knowledge, Self Love and Self Healing.

Unfortunately, not enough of us respect our selves and our own kind to want to know self. I pray for relief, and hope that more adepts such as yourself will continue to enlighten our people, our youth in particular, with teachings that will save us. I contend that there is no way that black people can continue to be psychologically enslaved if we really knew who we are, if we knew our true selves and our tremendous legacy as the original Mother and Father of the Universe and our contributions as the originators of civilization in all disciplines: math, science, engineering, cosmetology, biology, medicine,etc. -- both post and modern.

The five greatest inventions of the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries were invented by us: 1) fountain pen; 2) typewriter; 3) pc computer; 4) internet; and 5) cell phone. Yet, our ignorance of self has us feeling inferior when we even built the greatest modern civilization on the planet as well -- The United States of America. The travesty of that is, we feel [and accept] being third class citizens of the country we built and elevated to global dominance faster than any civilization in the history of the world. Yes, we did. We've won all of its wars, built its institutions and infrastructure, created its inventions, given it a modicum of democratic consciousness, elevated its culture to the most envied in the world, created its excitement factor, even surveyed and designed its capital. Yet we act like beggars at the table when every nano-second immigrant who set afoot on these shores feel a greater sense of entitlement to America's bounty than us. Go figger.

Peace and Blessings,
Peggy Seats

Well, that answers one.

But I still think #2 is not answered fully.

Yes I understand that you feel the first step is to have an honest national conversation about Race and Racism. I agree with that.

But then what? let's pretend for a minute that Mr. Obama is elected President (God willing!). And let's pretend he called you and the members of the Keeping It Real think tank to commission you to come up with a project destined to bring about this Healing process we're discussing.

So, what steps would you propose? You could even send them to him now that he's a candidate; why wouldn't that be a good idea?

I think the time for it is NOW, The sooner the better. Because by 2020 this "white majority" of which you speak of will be no more. By that year the people of European descent will become a minority in America, just one among many other different groups that need to start learning how to live together in peace; and I'm not talking only about black/white, I'm talking also about people of hispanic roots that are also suffering from hate in America (like this kid that was beaten to death in front of his girlfriend, I read about it recently). And the last think I would like to see in the decades to come is to watch the United States follow the steps of the former Yugoslavia.

And in all this process I think there must be a clear understanding that the ultimate goal is forgiveness. By forgiveness I mean putting all those centuries behind, which is not the same as forgetting or erasing them from the historical records, but allowing them to become displaced from the core of all related with the black community in America. It's time to move along.

So that in 100 years, or maybe less, children in classrooms would hear with astonishment, that long ago people of different color skin were treated like commodities. It will be something so preposterous to these little children, like hearing that people didn't have a bathroom on their homes until the last 150 years! or that they had to write things in paper to send letters and wait weeks for a response!!!

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Here is Dr. Leary

Red Pill here is a Radio Clip of Dr. Leary speaking in Kansas City, which she is being interviewed. Thus, she is more of the expert on this theory and I am sending you this link for your investigation. I do have my own views about a plan of action, but here is Dr. Leary.

However, you can not have Forgiveness unless there is an open recognition that an abuse/atrocity took place--forgiveness is based on the recognition that you (victim) and the perpetrator recognize and accept that a certain behavior has caused due pain. But the pain is not greater than my ability to love and forgive and move on (THIS IS UNCONDITIONAL). The African American community is not a monolithic community, but I do not think many would be oppossed to my above statement.

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Fahim A. Knight-EL

Thx

Thanks for the link. I'm going to listen to it while I work :-)

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An idea

I'm listening to Dr Leary's interview, and about the behaviors among the black community that she's studied and recorded (like how black mothers don't like to compliment their children or speak of their accomplishments, as a vestigial behavior of the fear that their offspring would be sold to another estate during the slavery years); and an idea came to me:

Do you think Fahim, that the use of Neuro-linguistic programming techniques could be useful to try to eradicate or diminish those entrenched cultural behaviors among the black community?

Maybe someone is already using NLP to try to rid young African American kids from violent conducts.

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This is a Good Discussion

Red Pill I am not familiar with Neuro-linguistic programming techniques. But I think in the traditional way of changing value systems; it will be an extremely large task to overturn 310 years of dehumanization and historical trauma without being sensitive to the fact that the Africans who were made Chattel Slaves were stripped of their humanity (this is not a victimization cry or appeal), lost their culture, their right to a homeland, language, religion, names, etc., This is not essentially an comparison of oppression relative to the Jews or any other oppressed and enslaved people, but the world since Adolph Hitler embraced their (Jews) suffering. But the Jews did not lose their cultural identity (many of them have dual citizenship in America and Israel, which is an identifiable land base, which gives them a collective origin as a people, many Eastern European Jews speaks Yiddish and the majority of them speak Hebrew—a common language is essential to any cultural cohesiveness). They had these essentials in tact in order to make a social and psychological transition (or recovery) from under the oppression of the Germans (1933-1945). The African American has a much more comprehensive and complex predicament because the severity of the oppression. Dr. Leary states right off the back that the study of “Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome” is not design to make other people feel guilty, but solutions will require open and honest communication. But the ultimate solutions will have to be internal and not external. There has to be cultural models (that reinforces African Values and promote self-esteem and positive self-worth outside the system that has been historically structured on racism and was tailored for the dominant society to benefit and prosper. There must be educational models that inspires African American children to want to desire to achieve academically in order to prepare themselves to make a positive contribution to themselves and to the community. The issue of poverty must be addressed; the United States Government can spend over three trillion dollars on a war in Iraq, but will not invest in the poor of these United States. We must have public policy that's sensitive to all its citizens especially the have-nots (who are ordinarily your poor whites, Latinos, and African Americans). Economically there must-be more of an investment in the American people. Black leadership must-be held more accountable to its own constituents and truly work in the three major arenas--political, social and economic for the benefit of African Americans. They have been too self-serving in the past and have been short on solutions. We can not turn the clock back and play the blame game, but at the same time we can not be in denial. Black Churches must move away from this entire prosperity ministry junk and embrace a social Gospel (the Black Church is perhaps the largest institution in black America with tremendous power and influence—they too must play a greater role in helping to solve this dilemma. Lastly, white America and all races must have that long awaited talk on Race and Racism and find come areas that all of humanity can work together to rectify some of these historical problems that still plague our nation. Now! I do think reparations have to be part of that discussion. I hope that some of this makes sense to you.

Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL

reparations

Reparations are very tricky in this case. Here are some iffues:

- Who gets them? There are quite a few African Americans who's ancestors were never slaves of the American slave system. I am not sure what the percentage is, but there has been immigration from Africa and the Caribbean, voluntarily. Why should these people be entitled to reparations for an injustice that was not done to their ancestors?

- Who pays? The vast majority of non-African Americans has never benefited from slavery. This majority is basically those from the old non-slavery states, plus those who immigrated after 1865. Plus the taxpayers who have no ancestry in the US - recent immigrants and temporary workers, foreign students. Why should they be punished, by paying taxes for an injustice they did not commit, nor did any of their ancestors?

Many people belong both in the receiver group and the payer group according to their ancestry. In many cases we can't tell. Many other people are non-participants. If we decide purely on skin color, then we are in serious danger of creating more discontent and more division. Not to mention that we are creating more bureaucracy based on skin color.

- Will reparations help? I rather doubt it. The problem here is one of psychology, or attitude. Whether it is accurate to call it Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome isn't very relevant for reparations. But your posts do describe a lot of the symptoms that keep part of the African American population at a disadvantage. It seems unlikely to me that giving them money or other economic help will address these problems of psychology or attitude. Especially if it really is a syndrome in the medical sense - the patient will get little if any benefit from being made a little richer temporarily.

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More Words From Dr. Leary

"Attempts to encourage European Americans to join in on a more honest, national dialogue about "race" and racism often results in defensive posturing and positioning. Common responses include "slavery happened a long time ago," or people saying that they're tired of being made to feel guilty about something they didn't do. How do we respond to this detachment from the crucial issues of the legacy of slavery"?

"It's irrelevant that you weren't alive during slavery days. I wasn't there either! But what we as a nation face today has been heavily impacted by our history, whether we're talking in the gulf between the haves and have-nots; education gaps between white and black children; or the racial disparities in our prisons".

"I don't believe in making people feel "guilty." We have to recognize that remnants of racist oppression continue to impact people in this country".

"Much of my work really is about black people looking at ourselves and understanding how our lives have been shaped by what we've been dealt. I don't want to wait for permission to examine this or to hear that looking back into our histories is somehow counterproductive".

"The root of this denial for the dominant culture is fear, and fear mutates into all kinds of things: psychological projection, distorted and sensationalized representations in the media, and the manipulation of science to justify the legal rights and treatment of people. That's why it's become so hard to unravel".

"Unfortunately, many European Americans have a very hard time even hearing a person of color express their experiences. The prevailing psychological mechanism is the idea, "I've not experienced it, so it cannot be happening for you."

"Truly, how can anyone tell me what I have and have not experienced? This is a very paternalistic manifestation of white supremacy, the idea that African Americans and other people of color can be told, with great authority, what their ancestor's lives were like and even what their own, present-day lives are like. The result for those on the receiving end of this kind of distortion is an aspect of PTSS. People begin to doubt themselves, their experiences, and their worth in society because they have been so invalidated their whole lives, in so many ways."

Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL

non-participants

These quotes of Leary don't address the situation of many later arrivals from Europe. Instead they seem to place blame on Irish Americans, German Americans, Italian Americans etc who's ancestors arrived long after slavery was abolished.

Indeed they seem to place blame on European Americans who arrived last year. Why should someone who immigrated from Poland in 2007 accept guilt? Why would Leary place guilt on these people? Because of the color of their skin? That doesn't make any sense.

But I like the one about Leary's work being about PTSS, not about history. Indeed the symptoms are within a part of African American population. Hence they should be addressed there, and through communication with the rest of America. My first post was about reparations, and I still believe that reparations don't address this problem.

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Lets Not Confuse The Issue

No, we will never overlook the question of reparations this is a non-negotiable plank. I think your comments have a slight racist overtone and your words are design to incite non-blacks by confusing the argument. Yes. France, Great Britain, Portugal, Belgium, Germany, Spain, the United States etc., all But prospered and benefited from the sale of human beings (Africans).

This was a historical crime. You would not pose that same argument towards the Jews because they would immediately label you and your remarks as anti-Semitism and you will be attacked by powerful Jewish lobbies.

Yet, the United States has recklessly spent over three trillion dollars of the United States citizens tax money in an unjust war in Iraq, but I guess with you that is fine, but to discuss African Reparations is unthinkable to person like yourself (this is the typical thinking of person who do not support justice for people of color).

The killing of innocent Iraqi citizens that is ok, because they are people of color and in your mind tax dollars is worth that war machine effort. How do you think the 310 year crime and injustice should be compensated?

This is why I emphasized in my post that there must-be an open and honest debate relative to Race and Racism in the United States; something we have never had. My Post was dealing with "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome" and most of all we need a process to HEAL. Lets not appeal to the emotional side of peoples psyche and confuse the real issue. Denial is not the solution nor is blaming, but we can not get around the historical facts surrounding the African Holocaust. Thus, anyone who knows anything about history and race relations know that haven't no Irish people suffered and endured no slavery of 310 years equal to the African "HELLOCAUST" where over 100 million Africans were displaced and another 10 million were killed during the Transatlantic Slave Trade and the Middle Passage.

Here is the difference, they still have Ireland that they can call home; European people were not rob of their native land, they were not rob of their language, they were not rob of their religion, they were not rob of their culture and heritage, they were not rob of their God and lastly they were not rob of their minds.

Many of the Irish people that migrated to the United States in the 19th and 20th century arrived through Ellis Island, as legitimate immigrants looking up at the Statue of Liberty which was giving to America as a gifted from France. The Africans arrived in the holes of slave ships; they did not get the privilege to be welcome as an immigrant like the Irish and other European immigrants.

These people on this site are to intelligent to be duped by your nationalist spin on history. Lastly, by virtue of skin color the Irish, Italians, Spanish, French, etc., integrated into what ever society they chose and became apart of the dominant culture based on skin color and received benefits due to us living in a “Pigmentocracy” (a society where rewards and privileges are granted based on race and ethnicity). The Africans can not change their skin color.

Now! This is what I do agree on Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., once stated, "Injustice anywhere, is injustice everywhere. Chattel Slavery was a crime and an injustice and it stands to be condemned.

Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL

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I think your comments have a slight racist overtone and your words are design to incite non-blacks by confusing the argument

Please let us not start all over again with the accusations. Clearly this is an isue (reparations) where you and Earthling are not in agreement. We can try to resolve our differences and understand our points of views, but always under a framework of mutual civility.

And I suppose the fist way to accomplish that is to admit that we all have prejudices. They are unavoidable because they are taught to us since childhood, with the most trivial and subtle of inffluences.

In fact I have a heory of why prejudism is so easy to learn. I think I'll write about it on my blog after I finish ths post.

Fahim, I do believe that Neuro-linguistic programming should be explored as one of the tools to reach the healing process goal w've been discussing. Even among the pledges made during the Million-Man March there was the pledge of "not using the B word to address women", and that is NLP. Maybe a NLP program launched in grade schools and where you get the parents involved could yield unexpected results. Who knows? Maybe it is something worth discussing among your social scientists colleagues.

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Let Calm Heads Prevail

Thank you Red Pill for the appeal and you are absolutely correct, me and Earthling have gone down this road a few weeks ago and from time to time. My article was really about "Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome" in which the theory itself is debatable--but Healing and Us all having a national and perhaps international discussion relative to Race and Racism was the ultimate objective of my article. My article focus was not Reparations and I did not desire for this conversation to digress to a debate on Reparations at least not in this post.

Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight

discussion

I agree that many factors of the problems caused by chattel slavery still persist. Debate is certainly needed. You can't me can't solve it alone, and people who I called "non-participants" in the original crime are stuck with the problem. Just as those groups originally involved. Which is why I have an interest in these issue, it is my problem whether regardless of whether I had anything to do with it or not. So I allow myself to point out why some proposed parts of a solution are unlikely to help.

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We are all slaves!

A fascinating discussion, but one which is being limited to only the black people being slaves.

Today, ALL OF US, whatever our colour or background, are SLAVES!!!! We are indoctrinated from birth into believing certain attitudes and ideas are a must; we must have money to help us live even though there is also the idea of barter; we must act in certain ways, think in certain ways, believe in certain ways, even when those ways are contradictory and detrimental to the human race as well as our inidividual selves. If you understood that these tactics described in the earlier posts are used against EVERYONE no matter what their origin or status you may begin to see that this is not such a limited victim list as first perceived.

Too few of us think on a wider scale.

I can often see things on a very big scale with lots of layers inbetween which enable me to focus on any layer, any point, but still see the overall picture. I have been told that this is not how others necessarily see things so I can only say it is how I see things and this allows me to understand on a wider scale. It also, however, seems to limit my emotions sometimes, forcing me to be aware but not emotionally excitable. This can be quite scary at times but is the way I am.

I am a slave, as is everyone else who has to work for their living or has little social status and/or wealth. You don't have to be black to feel this, many white people feel this too. Get beyond your own limited self and see things for ALL people, not just a select few.

Otherwise, a great debate guys!
Carol A Noble

I feel the same way

I too feel that we are all indoctrinated into bondage. Our chains may vary from person to person, based on their personal circumstances. But they are there.

I have always attracted scorn and ridicule for trying to see the "bigger picture" like you Carol. People sometimes act like blindfolded horses. if they are walking near a precipice they don't want to know about it, and they resent if you try to warn them! They rather live like happy little sheep in content oblivion.

They keep telling me it doesn't make a difference if I worry about these matters, and the only think I accomplish is harming my health. But I can't change the way I am; I honestly believe some of us are called to serve as witnesses of the age we were picked to live in.

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