Flashback 1970: UFOs Over Arizona and Hopi Prophecy

Read a few notes about the rash of sightings in the Prescott, Arizona area in August of that year. The Hopis, whose kachinas (spirit messengers) are known to have piloted "flying shields" for centuries, believe it is all part of their End Times prophecies.

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Gary David

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I have always loved the Chaco Canyon Area...

When I was a kid, I told my father that the indians landed their flying saucers in those round holes so they could protect them and then they would go to Teotihuacan (sp) and land on the pyramids. I guess I was about 11 then. Now, I have not changed and I am 66. I must be out of my mind.

Sorry if I did not spell everything here correct, I have misplaced my glasses and everything is very fuzzy. I had to use fuzzy logic to type this stuff.

Cheers
Ron O.

Chaco UFOs

That's as good a theory as any I've seen for the round kivas. And why else would they build arrow-straight roads 30 feet wide going due north/south for 60 miles in both directions when they didn't even have the wheel. Why, they were used for landing strips! --a la Zecharia Sitchin.

Thanks for you interest in my work. BTW, I've got a chapter on Chaco in my new book Eye of the Phoenix: http://www.amazon.com/Eye-Phoenix-Myster...

Gary David
www.theorionzone.com

Von Daniken and Teotihuacan

When I was 11 or 12, I too read a book I was given as a present, with the Ancient Astronaut theories of Teotihuacan and the Atlanteans of Tula (Hidalgo); how their atlatls or spear throwers were actually laser guns or something. It was all fascinating stuff when you're kid. I read that book like 5 or 6 times.

Now I'm a bit more cautious. Truly I still believe in a connection between the UFO phenomenon and the ancient American cultures; but I can no longer interpret just what that connection might be.

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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

Red Pill Junkie

Hopi prophecy, Inca

Hopi prophecy, Inca prophecy, mayan prophecy/calendar they are very much worth investigating and elders have just recently started to share information because we are in the prescribed time frame.

These people are gathering

These people with ancient traditions are gathering now in Modern times, thanks to western technology, to share their ancient knowledge and find points in common—Last place was in France, I think. Personally I think that's awesome.

But they need more publicity so their ideas can be more widespread.

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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

Red Pill Junkie

the rez is a tricky place

I live not too far from the Hopi reservation and have visited many times and witnessed some of their sacred ceremonies. I think the Hopis at this point are of two minds: one group wants to disclose their knowledge to the world at large while the other wants to keep it secret. I can't blame the latter point of view because the Hopi culture has historically been exploited and expropriated so much-- first physcically and now spiritually. On the other hand, anthropological research has all but stopped because some Hopis refuse to give out any more information. Then there is the problem --very real-- of sorcery on the reservation plus all the ills of modern life like alcoholism and even now a crystal meth epidemic.

Basically though, I think most of the spiritual elders are in favor of sharing their wisdom with the world --this Fourth World-- before is ends in another cataclysm, as they prophecize.

Gary

www.theorionzone.com

They are enigmas all...

If one were to look at ancient America in a different vein they might come to a different conclusion. We have a place in America called Area 51 where things are so secret that nothing is known of who or what lives in that part of the world. It has always been my belief that we have some folks living among us who are just a little more advanced than the average joe. I think these folks have been here all along and have ventured out periodically to advise and help various groups of people. I think they once were well known to many cultures but now they are hiding since many of us are a little intellectual and can do a few things. We are not needed to expand the culture.

I believe that Teotihuacan (sp I can never remember how to spell that silly site) might have been the area 51 in ancient times. The site was too advanced to be anything else. Heck, look at how it was constructed.

Don't fret

You're writing Teotihuacan correctly ;-)

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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

Red Pill Junkie

Teoti and O.C.T.

Teotihuacan is another ancient site informed by the Orion Correlation Theory, which seem to be found all over the world. Just over thirty miles north of Mexico City this massive site apparently reflects the stars of Orion. In particular, the configuration formed by the Pyramid of the Moon, the Pyramid of the Sun, and the Pyramid of Quetzalcoatl spatially correlates to Mintaka, Alnilam, and Alnitak respectively, i.e., the belt. http://www.philipcoppens.com/orionimage....

So whatever else was done there, this site joins the rest of those around the globe whose architectural plans mirror the constellation Orion. See my article with mucho links:
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.p...

Gary

www.theorionzone.com

Orion?

Didn't Graham Hancock wrote that Teotihuacan was aligned with the Pleiades, and Angkor Wat with the constellation of the Dragon?

Thanks for the link with your article. I hope I can get some work done so I can check it in a couple of hours ;)

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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

Red Pill Junkie

sidereal correspondences

Yes, in Heaven's Mirror Hancock talks about Angkor Wat corresponding to Draco. I don't recall Teotihuacan corresponding to the Pleiades though.

Gary David
www.theorionzone.com

accuracy

I have no problem believing that some architecture has been made to mirror star patterns. It seems natural, if not always spiritual. The next version of the WTC is supposed to be 1776 feet high, and there is only a little religion involved in that.

The belt of Orion part is suspect though - 3 things in an almost straight line, that is not very clever.

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It is not how fast you go
it is when you get there.

Orion

Actually, Wayne Herschel made pretty good arguments for the OCT in his book The Hidden Records.

Certainly a worthy read for open-minded readers :)

Cheers

thanks

Thank you, it is always good to get recommendations for good books. Really, this is not sarcastic, it is good.

I still wonder though about the accuracy. Or maybe a better term would be precision. The apparent distances and angles in Orion's belt, versus the corresponding distances and angles in the architecture.

Does anyone have information on that? I don't want to buy and read a whole book to find out 5 or 6 numbers.

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It is not how fast you go
it is when you get there.

You're welcome...

Why would I think it was a sarcastic reply?

I was pondering about precision myself for years. The only logical theory I came up with is that since those stars move, they are not in the exact same place they were relative to each other when the megaliths were built. We see those constellations in 2D as of today, astrological software can extrapolate them in 2D for thousands of years, but they move in 3D, so our perspective from here would have been somewhat different 5000 or 10000 years ago. Could be wrong, but until I get a better explanation, I'll stick with this one...

Maybe Wayne can answer that as he does post here once in a while (can't recall his ID though). Or Gary since it's his blog entry... Sorry Gary, not trying to hijack your thread. I'll buy your book in January, after my book budget replenishes in the new year :)

star patterns

Sag,

It's my understanding that the configuration or 2D pattern of constellations does not change that much. The position does, however. For instance, Orion was at its lowest near the horizon about 13,000 years ago, half way around the precesseional cycle. Now it's reaching its highest point, after which it will start to descend again.

Gary

www.theorionzone.com

Orion Correlation Redux

It's not merely Giza that has an OC. It's a global phenomenon.
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.p...

Gary David
www.theorionzone.com