Yes, I've been so busy lately I'm finding it difficult to keep up with anything at the moment. However...

"My twist," in a nutshell, is that people generally have absolutely no idea what CoIntelpro is and that is being used to derail the 9/11 truth movement. I certainly don't mean to say this in a patronizing way - god knows I don't have the definite answers on this - but what I think is imperative to understand that everyone can play a part in furthering these intelligence devices to dupe 99% of us who are even partially interested in politics/humanity etc. and who have a two neurons connecting, or, we can network and gain some knowledge as to what exactly is going on.

Firstly, we have to understand what CoIntelpro actually means.

Paul Wolf has a nice page on this here http://www.icdc.com/ and here's a bite-sized definition for you from his main page:

"COINTELPRO is an acronym for a series of FBI counterintelligence programs designed to neutralize political dissidents. Although covert operations have been employed throughout FBI history, the formal COINTELPRO's of 1956-1971 were broadly targeted against radical political organizations. In the early 1950s, the Communist Party was illegal in the United States. The Senate and House of Representatives each set up investigating committees to prosecute communists and publicly expose them. (The House Committee on Un-American Activities and the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, led by Senator Joseph McCarthy). When a series of Supreme Court rulings in 1956 and 1957 challenged these committees and questioned the constitutionality of Smith Act prosecutions and Subversive Activities Control Board hearings, the FBI's response was COINTELPRO, a program designed to "neutralize" those who could no longer be prosecuted. Over the years, similar programs were created to neutralize civil rights, anti-war, and many other groups, many of which were said to be "communist front organizations." As J. Edgar Hoover, longtime Director of the FBI, put it:

The forces which are most anxious to weaken our internal security are not always easy to identify. Communists have been trained in deceit and secretly work toward the day when they hope to replace our American way of life with a Communist dictatorship. They utilize cleverly camouflaged movements, such as peace groups and civil rights groups to achieve their sinister purposes. While they as individuals are difficult to identify, the Communist party line is clear. Its first concern is the advancement of Soviet Russia and the godless Communist cause. It is important to learn to know the enemies of the American way of life.

The FBI conducted more than 2000 COINTELPRO operations before the the programs were officially discontinued in April of 1971, after public exposure, in order to "afford additional security to [their] sensitive techniques and operations."

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Stan here:

Of course, FBI didn't have the monopoly on CoIntelpro - half the intelligence agencies with government approval are at it across the world, though the modus operandi has changed somewhat. Now it's not the Black Panthers unders suverveillance as dissidents and activists who see through the "war on terrorism" propaganda. The New Age movement generally for example, is one big cesspool of CoIntelpro not only the 9/11 movement. The prime directives are to disinform, twist and ridicule rational and objective thinking where good journalism is especially vulnerable. (Just take a look at the mainstream media).

There are some good, honest and genuine folks for whom spirituality, altruism and empathy are part of the reason for getting up the morning. Many of us sincerely wish to help and to defend against the steady diet of lies. (And lies are never more effective when there are snippets of truth interspersed amid the dross). However, this is not enough. We don't go into the jungle without a compass or equipment as well as some training in how to survive in a hostile environment. It is the same thing for those of us who are able to think critically. Even those who believe they ARE thinking critically have also in the past and present been hoisted on their own petards. (been on the end of that one too) This is not a game. If you want to seriously play in the dirt of these domains then of course, you gonna get dirty. But we don't have to let them use our energy to further their aims in the process. And this lack of understanding of CoIntelpro is proving very useful to the majority of it's agents. And of course, ignorance ensures that those of us with a voice, but misinformed become disinfo, by default. Then we help to create more conflict and chaos yet remain blissfully unaware of this tragic fact.

We can network and learn the skills of discerning who is disinfo and who is not. "by their fruits you shall no them" I think the quotation gos. What is their track record? Who exactly are they attacking? Who benefits? Can we take a bird's-eye view of the situation and cross reference with others? These are some of the questions we can ask with in a network, preferably without agendas.

As to above top secret.com they are classic disinfo. Signs of the times - which to my mind is the best source of REAL news and information on CoIntelpro having been attacked (myself included) more often than you can say "Kissinger likes little boys" - has some interesting threads on internet disinfo/CoIntelpro here:

http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/foru...

If you can work your way through her many long posts Knight-Jadczyk has some excellent narrative and analysis on this topic on her blog as mentioned before.

The only way to get up-to-date on this important issue is to read, read, read, read. The above forum is a good place to start.

Finally, the primary thing to remember imo, whether you are a Buddhist, a New Ager, a scientist, anarchist or occultist, those in the higher rungs of power have absolute contempt for humanity. They do not care one iota about anyone's opinion or voice. And they mean to keep these voices separate and disempowered bya variety of means that involve psychological manipulations of the highest order, from your basic conscious and unconscious internet disinfo artists like Jeff Rense, Art Bell, Whitely Strieber, Above Top Secret.com, Ted Gunderson, Jim Hoffman and Michael Ruppert etc. to the wider Psyops operations which involve mass mind programming right up to the war in Iraq and the London bombings.

Everybody needs to get informed on this issue if you're passionate about activism and self-work. They go hand in hand - one nourishes the other.

Thanks for the opportunity to comment Floppy.

Stan

Hi Richard , Stan,

Richard you beat me to it 'casseopaea' has a hidden agenda ( catching intellectual flies), in fact they're closer to cointel than Rense in my opinion. Stan i wonder why you attack Rense, because they lack items on thusfar non event birdflu, or not offering megabandwidth to their million visitors to download the strikevideo (no money)?
Your 'laura' needs casseopeae visitors, attacking Rense is a clear part of a dissociation strategy.

I like Rense there's a diverse offering, sure plenty of iraq and nazionsts but there's more, and i promise you Stan, once somewhere a major outbreak of birdflue strikes, there will be plenty on that too, and those top virologists..those that still live that is.

You seem afraid that 9/11 will fade, alas thats inevitable as bigger crimes are being committed. Most at Rense is collected (linked), partly within their layout and some regulars. So why these attacks on Rense, who are you telling us what not to read ? That zionist piece of software tells us that everything on the internet is drivel..., compare that to the official state/multinational muck !

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