Help Me Find this Enigma...Holes of Pisco Valley
Posted by Oscar at 21:15, 25 Jul 2005Someone is covering this up...help bring it to light.
Even von Daniken's work begins to take on a realness when one finds an old National Geographic from 1933 corroborating the "Band of Holes," that he personally inspected a few years ago. Each hole is a meter wide and just as deep. There are eight holes spanning 24 meters in width, marching in repetitive uniform fashion, from the Pisco Valley rolling over numerous miles of hills and mountains -- finally disappearing in the misty mass of Peru. These holes remind this old West Texas boy of the traces left by a massive drilling rig, eight drills wide, moving along methodically, testing the geology of the Andes for precious metals. Laser drillers have also left such tracings in the ground. Archaeologists say they represented defensive positions or graves for the ancient ones, except why would you bury anyone on a slope in rocky soil at more than a 45-degree angle?
These holes form a belted pattern of thousands of uniform holes eight wide marching as if left by some giant machine. Bring this back to the light of the world...find me pictures.
But my friends, there are tons of anomalies in the mysterious lands of South America -- Colombian models of delta winged forms, giant pyramids in the Amazon Basin, built on mountain slopes covered by inaccessible jungles and others are examples. Are these mysteries part of why Teddy Roosevelt was so introspective upon his return from the Amazonian adventure which eventually caused his death? This is an area where satellites from space represent the best vehicles for discovery of the great structures or patterns on the ground. The Amazon hides "tall, robust" civilizations of the past, which have been radio-carbon dated just recently to over 8,000 years old, and it seems we have not even scratched the edges of this area's massive hidden potential for learning the true "why" of its humanity.
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1 May 2004
4 days 7 hours
Here's one photo of the holes in question. It may be difficult to find photos of them on the internet simply because we don't know the typical name of them. But I did find a little related information...
Archaeologists may think the cajamarguilla holes were for funerary purposes because of the Otuzco windows, which they consider to be "an impressive ensemble of funerary niches literally carved on a rocky crag." If you have broadband or don't mind this pdf file taking a while to load, you can see a nice photo of these funerary niches at The Traveler's Guide to Peru's Pre-Hispanic Archeological Legancy [sic], in about the middle of the file.
The SAA Archaeological Record of Jan '04 - another long pdf file - has an article titled Tomb Raiders of El Dorado - Conservation Dilemmas on a "New" Archaeological Frontier in Peru, about half way down the page, that might interest you. It begins by saying there are approximately 200,000 unregistered monuments and archaeological sites in Peru dating from the last four millennia, and goes on to talk about the problem of amateur archaeologists and looting. The vast number of potential sites may explain why there are so few pics of those holes you're looking for -- archaeologists are busy looking at other things.
Near the bottom of this page, there's an article about the find of the particular amateur archaeologist mentioned in the above AR pdf.
And here, someone links the holes to Atlantis.
You're right about archaeologists barely scratching the surface - in Peru, the rest of South America, and practically everywhere else. Charitably, we could acknowledge it takes a lot of money to move mountains with toothbrushes. ;-)
Kat
1 May 2004
4 years 18 weeks
These holes are uniform and after my days working with the U.S. Geological Survey, I know a uniform drill hole when I see one. These holes do not vary to the degree necessary for the purposes you describe. Such drills could easily have penetrated the rock here in the first pic.
Perhaps we should stress the brain rather than the utilization of the toothbrush to determine cause and effect.
Kat, you are a wonderful resource...is Ma'at your site?
1 May 2004
4 days 7 hours
Hi Oscar,
>>These holes do not vary to the degree necessary for the purposes you describe.
I didn't express any theories of the purpose of the pisca holes, since I have no idea who made them, how they were made, or why. As you requested, I just provided a link to a photo of them. I agree that archaeologists sometimes show a lack of imagination and/or thought with regard to the possible creation or uses of such strange things. As I implied, I think archaeologists too-frequently describe strange things in terms of something else they superficially resemble and which archaeologists believe they understand, like the funerary niches in the other photo.
>>Perhaps we should stress the brain rather than the utilization of the toothbrush to determine cause and effect.
Perhaps you misunderstood my point, which was that maybe photos of the pisca holes are hard to find because archaeologists - not really knowing what to make of them or thinking they already have them accurately pigeon-holed (god, I hate puns, even when I make them) - are busily spending their grant monies at a few of Peru's 200 thousand other locations, which they believe to be of more interest. With regard to what I was saying about toothbrushes, I was just trying to see the situation from their point of view, i.e. it seems likely they're caught up in academia's publish-or-perish paradigm, and tend to choose the locations of their expensive digs accordingly.
I'm not sure why the tourist websites provide so little information about the pisca holes, but it seems likely that their choice of photos of Peru is market-driven, and tourists would rather spend their money seeing other things.
None of the above implies that I, personally, don't think these holes are important and/or interesting ooparts. I do -- otherwise I wouldn't have spent several relatively fruitless hours searching for photos and articles about them - for you, me, and everyone else who's interested.
Speaking of using brain-power, perhaps we'd have more luck finding information if we google the name of the amateur archaeologist mentioned in one of the links. We might find an email address for him, and then directly ask him if he can personally provide us with more info, or knows someone who can. There were also numerous articles on the web about companies who recently did test-drills in that area (looking for zinc, I think), and while that's not directly relevant or at all interesting, perhaps it would be worthwhile to collect a few email addresses at those websites, and send out a few inquiries to see if any of the associated people happened to have looked at the pisca holes and/or developed an interest in them or took photos of them while they were in the area. In other matters of interest to me, both of these techniques for gathering hard-to-find information have worked for me in the past.
But of course, the best way to gather info would be to go down there, and look at the holes and photograph them oneself. (Pause - while I daydream about how much a 3-day vacation-package might cost, and then crash back to earth as I think about all the other wonders of Peru I'd want to see, and how much time and money that would take, not to mention I couldn't possibly be away from my kitties for that long...)
>>Kat, you are a wonderful resource...is Ma'at your site?
Being generous, I think I've been to the Ma'at site a grand total of 3 times in the past 5 years, so no, that's a different Kat. With all the time you've spent here at TDG, I'm surprised you don't already know that.
Do you have a theory on how and why the pisca holes were made?
Kat
1 May 2004
4 years 18 weeks
Some more information on the holes...
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/for...
26 February 2005
34 weeks 5 hours
THank you for going to the effort of finding those links. I enjoyed looking at the papers and especially the pictures of the holes.
Colette
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
Moving Forward Publications
1 May 2004
4 days 7 hours
I see someone found much better photos of these holes, which clearly show why it's absurd for anyone to think miles and miles of these holes were drilled in rock, by hand, for burial purposes!
Kat
22 November 2004
3 hours 21 min
We always assume that things that are done on a large scale are done for an intelligent reason. That is probably inaccurate, so here are some alternatives:
- Mining. They wanted round stones for some reason.
- Punishment of prisoners by having them do pointless work. Remember the movie Cool Hand Luke?
- Religion. The cult of The One Who Demands Round Stones. This is actually not unlikely.
- Bureaucracy. Someone passed a law that round stones were to be manucatured, and there was no sunset clause in their lawbooks.
Ancient people were our equals in many ways, I'm sure they could also equal our stupidity.
1 May 2004
4 years 18 weeks
There you go...attempting to cajole away some good deduction about our ancient past with some fertility stuff...we always think about that stuff...use it on them...they will never know the truth of this great site...(what archaeologists say). Well, we are not stupid. There was a lot of gold in them thar hills.
Think...look at the pattern...see how it runs up and down hills and then jumps...We did the same at NGS with two rigs. But, because of the pattern, it is apparent it was done prior to the earth catastrophe that was associated with the flood report of the Bible and many ancient cultures (Gilgamesh). The land has changed due to earthquakes on a scale that would liquefy dirt.
22 February 2005
2 years 15 weeks
lets say humanity became exstinct and in a few million years ants became the inteligent species on this planet. Ant archaeoligist would try to explain away remnents of humanity in theories based on their known technologies. Which of coarse you couldn't do.
DISCLAIMER:the opinions and veiws in this post are mine only and do not nesessarily reflect those of others.
1 May 2004
4 years 18 weeks
I do not think evolution is any form of development other than a program of this event horizon. If event sequences come to the statement you have put forth I am sure mind will be riding the ant form...It will still be us...Ant us. We are all entities occupying forms in physical Time/Space. Have a good day finding some food.
1 May 2004
4 years 18 weeks
If these holes were there prior to the flood...it proves humanity was highly advanced not unlike we are today. If we were so advanced, we need to reclaim our past. Folks like Graham Hancock are trying to enlighten us to realize this and start trying to determine who and what we truly are.