of Man and Woman

“One desire, one sexual being.”

Perhaps you know of these words. This first of all is the two beginning lines opening the first song on Mer de Nomes, Hollow. Secondly, this is the perfect depiction of human potential to achieve perfection. What is this sexual being? As human, let us analyze this:

“We find that male and female are really the positive and negative aspects on nature—that is to say, that the male is the positive or electrical quality and female is the magnetic, receptive, or negative quality. The word ‘negative’ is here used in its electrical application, and means that it does not act but holds power. It does not represent futility or weakness, but reserve force.

The whole universe is built upon this fusion of ‘male’ and ‘female’ (electricity ‘+ -’, magnetism ‘north’ and ‘south’ poles, Chemistry: for a reaction you require a reactor and a reactant, these are all examples). It must not be inferred, however, that a man is all electrical and a woman all magnetic. On the contrary, these two qualities run in juxtaposition through every cell and atom. But all existing things are pre-eminently of one sex, although containing both in various degrees. Example: the masculine symbol being Mars, has two poles, one electrical and one magnetic.

It would seem to follow, then, that man’s mental body has a preponderance of the feminine quality, and woman’s of masculine, and perhaps that explains why wise have always considered that woman can actually take the lead and inspire them from the mental level if she but realizes it and fits herself to do so.

Man is meant to learn sensitivity and intuition from woman, and woman is meant to learn steadiness and honesty from man. A perfect man or a perfect woman must be a complete blending of the qualities of both. That is why God is defined as perfect and has no gender, though he is the father of us all.

Considering this, we see the futile stagnation by the people whom refuse a relationship with the opposite sex, such as nuns or monks, or by those who indulge in homosexuality, they will be lacking as long as they remain and have no potential of moving towards perfection without the benefit of learning from the other gender as much as could possibly be learned. Man and woman merge in work or play together, entirely irrespective of the sexual act itself, and stimulate and nourish each other to fulfill each other’s natures, as it is meant to be.

When men and woman are brought up to be sensitively alive to this interplay of the forces between them, they will obtain so many fulfillments that from them that the act of procreation will fall back naturally to its normal use. Sex-antagonism and other inhibitions will disappear. There will be produced the perfect working unit, built up of Woman-Wisdom-Strength and Man-Power-Action.”

This is so very simple, yet humanity has such difficulty succumbing to this, a simple precept. This does not give us permission to harbor of those who do not seek fulfillment from the other gender, but to hope that they may understand their fault, and change. And for those who do seek it, most seek only fulfillment to lusts within self-indulgence, and sex is the tool utilized for such. Perfection lies only within the equilibrium between the two out of love.

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the shadow's picture
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The way I see it is that I don't care who has sex with whom or what as long as they don't want to tell me about it.
I refer to not have to listen to people's sex talk, but in my opinion they can do whatever they wish.
And I think it is rather presumptuous of someone to tell others how they should manage their sex lives.
For a start it is YOUR god of whom you speak and thus it is YOUR god who wishes what you have written.
Are you making allowances here for those who do not believe in god?
In your god or any god?
And if not, why not?

shadows

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I leave the issue with a god open. To look at our world and our universe, there is an intelegent design. Whom the designer is... alot of contreversy. We have yet to assert an identity. Secondly, my point is not to degrade the personality of homosexuals. I have homosexual friends. They understand my stance, and view it as logical. My point in this is not within the sex act, but the ability to use the others rescources.

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Oh no - let's not go down that Intelligent Design discussion again!!!

LOL

yer ol' pal,

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I would have to agree with you on some points, but not all. I mean just look at chemistry and biology. In order for a species to survive they must produce offspring. How many animals in the wild refuse to mate or are "gay". As for the perfect being. Yes i think that it is possible for that to happen but look at people today. They just marry to be married or just do it because it is convienent at the moment. Most people dont love one another. But yes if a man and a woman do love one another enough to work through the problems and stay together they learn from one another and become 1. Btw i recognize the comment and i love APC and Tool.

"It is what we think we know already that often prevents us from learning."

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"They just marry to be married or just do it because it is convienent at the moment. Most people dont love one another."

yes, you unfortunately have a viable point. Relationships are imperfect within homosexuality and hertosexuality... The perfect being though (should any of us ever acheive that) will use what both genders have to offer.

I'm glad you commented. I found this site through Tool actually.

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I have seen cows try to mount cows and bulls try to mount bulls.In most animal species there is what you would call homosexual behaviour.
I have seen it with birds and it is well known that apes indulge in this behaviour as well.

I have said this before.
There is nothing abnormal in what one person or one animal does with another.
If that is what both wish to do then it is perfectly normal behaviour.

That is a rather big generalisation to make that most people don't love one another.
How do you know?
Are there statistics?
Do you know for sure that people only marry to be married?

This whole argument is specious.
Give it a rest.

shadows

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ok, allow me to clarify. SOME PEOPLE marry to marry, or marry out of lust. There are plenty of marriages that exist out of love. I know of lots. I know of lots that go the other way too.

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Bonobos are the apes most like humans in behaviour.They indulge in sex for about 90% of the time.
They use it for persuasion and as a reward.They indulge in group sex and they enjoy themselves.
They will withdraw sex from another in anger and offer it as a trade.
Female chimps are often seen having sex together.
Sex in most mammals is not just about procreation.It is an enjoyment of each other's bodies and is often a comfort thing, being used by one animal to comfort another.

shadows

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Animals only do such things when they have been nuetared. Like my dogs are all females but since they have been spaid they act as such. The only thing that causes them to do it is a hormone imbalance caused by removal. There are statistics too. Look at the divorce rate. That has to say something about people and mariage. And oh yea I live on a farm in the country.

"It is what we think we know already that often prevents us from learning."

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You are wrong wrong wrong.
Go to some animal site and find out about chimps and other apes and how they carry on.
And they have not been neutered.
Just because you see certain behaviour in your dogs does not mean you can speak for the entire animal kingdom.

And why do you think the divorce rate has anything to do with whether people love each other or not.
Love is a very complex thing as you will find out when you grow up.You can love someone but be unable to live with them.

Statistics prove nothing except that someone kept figures on something.

Your quote on the bottom is very apt for you.

shadows

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I have horses around where I live, and two males will sniff each other where a females gentiles is. I have never seen them mount, but it happens, yes.

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My friend's male dog is always trying to shag my leg. Since I'm a male too, does that make my friend's dog homosexual as well as a practitioner of bestiality?

yer ol' pal,

Xibalba
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Hi sis,

When a male dog tries to shag someone's leg it is usually saying to that person that it is the alpha dog in the group.
Of course some dogs will shag anything.
A spayed female dog mounting another dog is doing it as a domination thing and not thinking of sex.

shadows

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All to find out the sex of their babies. The first women say's. " I already know I'm having a girl, because I was on top!" The second women say's "Then I'm having a boy because he was on top!!" The third women lets out a little scream. "Oh no I'm having puppies!!!"
:)

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shadows

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...being a raging lesbian trapped in a man's body, I don't have that beastiality mindset to answer that one.. ~Inkslinger

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Some people get married to have sex. Some people get divorced to start having sex again. Marriage has been and is many things to many people.

Science has ID at least 6 different sexes in humans on a genetic level. We are all of us a blend of male, female and there is no right or wrong sex in nature. I qualify that by stateing some sexual practises are illegal or harmful to others. That there are variations should give those not enlightened a moments pause as to Gods intelligent design. That and the 1 man 1 women thing. Nature has its own ideas. Creation/Energy is always moving and its dance is for all. Promenade.

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You explained that beautifully bladerunner.Thank you.

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x3 disposition 3x

For that matter, how about quarks? I don't have an anthropomorphic view of the Universe or Diety/Dieties! So, I'm probably not picking up on your point as well as you might want me to! But, this appears to be an over simplified male oriented perspective!

What do you think?

kennc

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I have some books, and one of them by a ***woman*** named Vera S. Alder called "finding of the third eye." I pulled alot of information from an array of sources, including a perfect circle, but 'finding of the third eye' was my primary. So no it it isn't "an over simplified male oriented perspective."

" Que je prends très souvent les faits pour des mensonges,
Et que, les yeux au ciel, je tombe dans des trous.
Mais la voix me console et dit: 'Garde tes songes:
Les sages n'en ont pas d'aussi beaux que les fous!' "

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x3 deposition 3x

The third eye is a non-gender esoteric concept! Your post and the responces that I have read seem to relate to sex and gender to one extent or another. If you say that this is not "an over simplified male oriented perspective", I take your word for it! So, how do you relate it to the third eye? I think that it might help if you were more specific; because, to one extent or another, most of the responces seem to relate to the third leg and where to put it! In other words, I don't think that the responces, in general, relate to your search for the third eye in a constructive manner! Maybe, I'm wrong! I don't know.

What do you think?

kennc