So What, So What?

I know I’ve written about this before, but a recent blog posting has me going.

I am as intrigued by those that study (and pretend to study) UFOs as I am the UFOs themselves. And so, I ask once more: what is it about the honest and genuine pursuit of the “UFO question” that just bugs the flippin’ crap out of some people?

They complain, frequently (and often rudely) that the exploration of UFOs is a time waster. And often they spend the same amount of time complaining about this as the so-called UFO time waster who’s wasting time. And anyway, it’s not theirtime, so who cares? As far as I’m concerned, a lot of people waste a lot of time on things, but I don’t waste my time telling them. (And no, thinking it’s ironic that I’m commenting on time wasters is not correct. They started it, and it’s my experience (s).)

It’s a waste of time for different reasons: no answers yet, not after thousands of years, lights in the sky, big whoop, the study of UFOs hasn’t “contributed” anything of merit to culture, society, scientific and academic institutions. That’s subjective, and I naturally disagree with that opinion, but, everyone’s entitled to their opinion. But I’m baffled as to why their incessant need to remind the rest of us of their highly subjective and tunnel visioned views every few weeks? Even with those last two aside (subjectiviy and narrow mindness) the question remains: why the persistant ire over those of us that ask, seek, wonder, explore, study, and research?

I suppose one of the things that amazes me about this view is that the critics of UFO studies don’t stop to ask the experiencer. Or witness, Contactees, abductee, whatever term you prefer. They’ll snidely give all kinds of pop culture psychological pontifications on a particular witness or researcher, but it’s often as far as it goes. They don’t seem to stop and think about one obvious thing: a really weird thing happened, and there are a lot of people who want to find out what that really weird thing was. During that process of finding out, a lot of interesting things happen along the way. Often, it is not so much about “the answer” as the journey itself. Or, the personal answers one finds is just that: personal and therefore highly individual.

Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

Yes, these things (UFOs) have been seen in the skies since forever. Along with all kinds of paranormal/supernatural experiences, UFOs have been with humanity a very, very long time. Have we gotten any closer to the “answer?” Maybe that’s the wrong question. It’s possible seeking one size fits all, magical answer is the wrong objective.

My journey has taken me a lot of places, personally, spiritually, and socially. Sometimes it is merely on the same level as a quilting bee. So what? Often times it’s much deeper. That is for me to judge, no one else.

Look, if you’ve experienced episodes of missing time, seen several UFOs, had psychic communication with others in the context of UFOs, with the UFOs themselves, and entities, I’d suspect you’d be “wasting time” trying to find out what the hell happened, just like I’m doing.

And if you’re not, that’s your choice too. (Alhtough, really, I am very curious as to know why you’re not.)

The point is, a lot of us have experienced some very weird things, and/or are fascinated by the phenomena. The reasons for this interest vary, but I suspect that somewhere in there, is included a process to bring us closer to something. A spirituality, perhaps? Maybe. A psychological, creative understanding of self, and our relation to others? Very probably. What’s wrong with that? Not a damn thing.

Then, too, there’s some of what all this UFO research reveals on the dark side: conspiracies, cover-ups, factual and historical doings of our government. (And others.) MK Ultra, for example. Not pretty.

We gain insights into our society, culture, different religions, the “folk,” mythologies, creativity, spiritually, and so much more studying UFOs.

No, it hasn’t cured cancer, stopped wars, ended world wide suffering in any way. Should it? Why do some expectit to? I don’t, and I never have.

It’s not people like myself, who are usually considered the kooks, who are guilty of magical thinking. I don’t expect UFOs to fix the ills of the world. I expect us -- you and me -- to fix them.

In the meantime, those who choose to study UFOs are hardly harming anyone, and often are bringing change in various and small ways. What are the critics doing? Nothing, except complaining about, and insulting, others.

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the shadow's picture
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Hi rlee,

I hang my head out the window every night before I go to bed and beg those blessed aliens up there to come and abduct me.But do they?
NO!
I don't know whether it is because I am plump (an understatement) and would break the light beam or they don't like the cut of my genes.

But you are right in what you say.I know some people, and if by any chance they are reading this you know who you are, who will not discuss with me any single thing to do with UFOs or the possibility of UFOs.
They make me feel like an idiot if I ever raise the subject.

They just totally dismiss me as if I were old and demented which I probably tend to be in a small way.
But my argument is that I am getting on in years and it wouldn't hurt to humour me with a little discussion of this topic.

After all, if there really are aliens or even earthly visitors or any kind of intelligence flying around that we don't know of, then it is the biggest and most important event in the history of the world.

I get fed up with 'No Ma we just don't believe in UFOs although yes we DO love Sci-Fi so please don't go on about them'.

Dang, I think I just gave it away.

shadows

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You're just after some of those lollipops!!!

Regards, Kathrinn

the shadow's picture
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shadows

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I understand that a fair number of people who post on the Grail are somewhat cynical about the value of skepticism. However, from my point of view, skepticism can be a useful mindset with which to approach the claims of others. I remain steadfastly skeptical about television evangelists, network marketeers, pyramid schemes, faith healers and diet pizza. I approach the claims of these groups with firmly fixed preconceptions of doubt and disbelief.

Conversely, however, I remain relatively open to the possibility of cold fusion, the potential existence of extra-terrestrial beings, the likelihood that nineteen angels really could kneel prayerfully together on the head of a pin and the undeniable truth that worms are the true progeny begat from ham slices when artificially inseminated with coke.

the shadow's picture
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I also believe in those things, specially the nineteen angels on the pins head, but I don't know about the prayerfully part.
I mean look what Lucifer did to stuff things up.
And I hate to correct you anubis2 but it is actually vanilla coke that is the catalyst in that particular interaction.

shadows

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THE SHADOW: "And I hate to correct you anubis2 but it is actually vanilla coke that is the catalyst in that particular interaction."

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Good morning, everyone.
I’m not really interested in whether ET is a real, existent entity, other than whether upon his arrival he would be my friend, conquer, or eat me (if he’s a bore, the latter may be preferable).
I think this way because there is absolutely nothing I can do about it unless he arrives, when I can either make friends, flee or fight. This is so because it is up to science to discover his physical existence, or not.
UFOlogy, though, is a different matter. I can’t get enough of it. Indeed, I study the ‘culture’ of UFOs and aliens, and whenever I do I find similarities with the construction of previous religious/spiritual systems.
This has led me to the conclusion that the UFO phenomenon is an involuntary religious ‘mechanism’, which shows that religion/spirituality will out in any human society regardless - even if that society is predominantly materialist or atheist.
Unconsciously, I think scientists/materialists/individualists perceive this and it scares them. Hence, they ignore, ridicule, and sometimes get quite angry. This says as much about detractors as the UFO itself.
One final point, people, it works as well with good old English beer - the ham slices I mean. And it has the added advantage that, after enough, I, also, would see anubis2 this weekend.

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Reality, like time, is relative to the observer.

Anthony North

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I'm off to a wedding there in September. Smooth a hill for me. And don't get the dolfins pissed.

"While contemplating on their life, anyone who says they have no regrets and would do it all the same again, have not learn't anything."
LRF.

the shadow's picture
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Yes a pissed dolfin is a dangerous creature.

shadows

the shadow's picture
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And yes I can wave to you from my roof as I have wonderful views from there.

Is the Venturer real? What sort of boat?

shadows

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If you saw a UFO or even better came in contact with an Alien Intelligence?

They may look entirely different, they may look similar.
They may be far more intelligent, they may not.

Far more universal, eternal questions would still remain. The cycle of life and death, the origin of all existence, the purpose of life. These questions would remain regardless of an Alien species or not.

The answers to these questions will remain unanswered if you continue to see life merely in the physical plane, and remain unaware of the higher truth of consciousness.

You will spend an eternity in believing the truth is 'out there', when in fact it has been within you all along.

the shadow's picture
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Well done!

Yes, you can find God in a cornflakes box.

shadows

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many will understand how close to the truth your comment is.

"While contemplating on their life, anyone who says they have no regrets and would do it all the same again, have not learn't anything."
LRF.