Um, so I think I just saw a UFO...

OK guys, make of this what you will. All I an say is I'm not lying or making this up, although I could be mistaken.

The fact is, that I had forgotten to storage the bag I took to my trip to Paradigm symposium back up to a little storage room located in the terrace where I live. Some minutes ago I decided not to postpone this any longer, so I climbed up the metal stairs around 9:00 pm.

It's a beautiful clear night with some clouds in the sky. I was watching some of the airplanes flying from northwest to southeast, when suddenly after I opened the door to the room, out of the corner of my left eye something caught my attention. I turned and I saw like a little yellow light which moved erratically from right to left with a very quick and swift motion, and seemed to either have hidden inside the clouds, or went out somehow. The whole thing lasted less than a second.

The light was around 2 to 2:30 elevation in the sky (with 12 right at the zenith) at an approximate South East direction. It was very small, like the light of a laser pointer, only this wasn't been projected on a blackboard, and the light wasn't red nor green.

No, it wasn't a reflector light being projected on the clouds. I saw the light in the CLEAR part of the night sky.

It really startled me, and I just waited to see if there would be something more, when suddenly I perceived like a white flash of light inside the dark storage room, which had the door ajar but I hadn't turned on the lights yet.

After that I felt like a huge surge of energy crossing the whole of my body. Quite possibly the result of fear and adrenaline rush.

I waited a minute or two more, but I saw nothing else.

I entered the room, put away the baggage inside a cardboard box, turned off the light, closed the door, stood there a few moments actually pleading that light to come back, and then climbed down to write this while my memory is still fresh.

Man, it would be interesting to gauge in the coming weeks whether attendees to the Paradigm symposium started to report an increase in their paranormal experiences.

Cosmic Love in action, Mr. Hanks? ;)

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PS: I didn't mention this on the blog post with the Martian Chronicles synchronicity, but the other Bradbury book I took with me on the trip was Something Wicked This Way Comes.

In the book, Cooger & Dark's Pandemonium Shadow Show arrive to Green Town on October 24th, at 3 am (the Witching Hour).

Soooooo... what that means at the moment, I have no idea.

But maybe something interesting is in store.

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so you're no longer a UFO virgin?

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LOL I don't know ;)

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That white flash sounds like a craft suddenly revving up and dematerializing in this dimension. I had a sighting a few years ago. There is nothing quite like it. You feel a bit like it was a show being staged especially for your attention, and in your case it may have been. You are on a roll. There may yet be more to come

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Some part of me thinks exactly that. Maybe I am opening up more ;)

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A link to the account of my first UFO encounter. I have since had others -- all during the day, in real time, and with another pair of eyes as confirmation on one occasion.

http://www.mythomorph.com/wp/incident-at...

Welcome to the club ...

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Very interesting. So, am I right in understanding all the time you took those photographs, you were never aware of the presence of the objects?

Although, I must point out I feel that the image your daughter took might be explained as a fly passing near the camera lens. This is obviously quite speculative of me, since I don't know the aperture or the speed by which the image was captured.

It's also interesting that you mentioned that place in Scotland has a lot of extinct volcanoes. As you probably know, there's a lot of discussion right now about a video which allegedly shows an object going inside the crater of Mount Popocatépetl in Mexico. Many people think is either a hoax, or an object which is not really getting inside the volcano, as they are expecting some sort of explosion or plume of smoke. I'm keeping it on my gray basket though.

Anyway, thanks for sharing :)

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You are correct in understanding that I did not see the objects when I shot the photos (or videos).

You are also correct in thinking that the object my daughter photographed COULD have been a fly. The fact that I would photograph an object that looks like a classic UFO, however, within minutes of my daughter shooting an object that is visually ambiguous enough to be interpreted as either a fly or a UFO is, you must admit, a marvelous coincidence. Also, I read a speculative paper about UFO propulsion systems, shortly thereafter, that (I recall) seemed to put forth the possibility of vortex-like anomalies either above or below the objects.

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'Coincidences'?

Tsk tsk. My dear Jeff, you should know we don't appreciate that kind of language here @ The Grail ;)

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Sorry ... "Concordance" OK?

BTW: The island the UFO is above is Lamb Island, known locally as The Lamb. This is the island I mention in my "The Pyramids of Scotland" article, the article that inspired Uri Geller to buy the place a few years ago, which further inspired me to write "The Pyramids of Scotland Revisited."

I didn't mention that fact in my UFO article, for obvious reasons.

To the naysayers it would have seemed too much of a concordance.

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Oh. So that's Geller's property now, eh? I suppose that now entrance is off-limits. Pity.

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The place is hard enough to land on, even in good weather. Interestingly, the island used to be parlt of the Dirleton Estate, the Laird of which was a possible ancestor of mine -- Sir John Nisbet -- a Lord Advocate, witch judge, and cruel prosecutor of Covenanters. He bought the title when he was raised to the bench. A real sweetheart. Geller bought the island from a South American who I think had similarly bought the title.

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So, are there medieval constructions in that island?

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No ... Just scads of seabirds, and everything they produce. A good place to hide something, though. Hard to land on, irate nesting birds in good weather, and lots of bird crap.

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I smell me some treasure, mateys!!

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time to get the scooby gang together :3

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in case you haven't already, check out on youtube a defunct alien invasion tv fiction programme that only lasted one season called "Threshold"

i found the concept intriguing

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Thanks for the suggestion :)

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In the UFO lore over the years there have been quite a few reports of ET's using the inside of volcanoes as "hangars" and bases. Pumice is soft and easy to excavate, and once deep inside an extinct lava dome the micro bubbles within the lava act like insulation creating potentially a very thermally balanced environment. There are also usually internal lava tubes that can be enlarged for the tunneling. All in all, dormant volcanoes make a logically good place to park the craft and hang out.

The spate of sightings in Mexico are around a still active volcano which makes me wonder if they can also use the molten magma as an energy source.

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Or maybe they use the veins of the Earth as portals, or gateway entrances.

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Did it bear any resemblance to previously recorded sightings in Mexico City?

Did anyone else see it? (Is there a local UFO group that might collect sightings?)

Is there anything of note on the ground in that direction? (Especially things like military bases or ancient ruins/sites.)

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>Did it bear any resemblance to previously recorded sightings in Mexico City?

That's tough to answer, being how Mexico is such a UFO hotspot, and I just can't claim to be conversant with every single report or UFO sighting.

All I can say is that it looked like tiny 1 light (or maybe 2 lights close to each other) with a slightly yellowish white hue.

>Did anyone else see it? (Is there a local UFO group that might collect sightings?)

I was all by myself, but whether anyone else in the neighborhood happened to watch it, I can't really say.

>Is there anything of note on the ground in that direction? (Especially things like military bases or ancient ruins/sites.)

Nothing of the sort. As I point out in the text, planes fly right above my home, following a north-west to south-east trajectory. But that's about it.

Well, there's one thing worth pointing out though: I live fairly close to what would probably be a tiny extension of San Andreas' fall, which actually seems to run across two public parks near where I live.

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...always gets my attention.

Flashes preceding, or occurring in conjunction with, the appearance or disappearance of UFO/UAP are fairly common, but I've also been in a directed flash a few times during my contact initiation a few years ago. It was always outdoors in the wee hours while I was alone sky-watching; typically white or blue-white and almost imperceptibly brief. Initially, I thought it was some kind of synaptic power surge, not an objective event. Repeat occurrences, always against a "high strangeness" background, convinced me otherwise.

Enjoy the charge. ;•)

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I'm still thinking about that part.

Like I wrote, the flash seemed to have been located inside the dark storage room, and I perceived it from the corner of my right eye, and it was extremely brief --like the flash of a camera.

Maybe it had something to do with the CFE light-bulb in that room, or maybe it wasn't really a 'physical' flash at all, but what it's commonly referred to as Entoptic phenomena, which I experience very frequently --my personal interpretation to these, is that some of those optical effects might be somewhat related to the endocrinous release of DMT, inside the human brain.

So, whether the 'flash' was related or not to the 'surge' of energy I felt immediately afterward, I cannot honestly say.

But it was a really interesting experience :)

BTW welcome to the Grail! And, let me suggest you pay a visit to the blog Hidden Experience, where you'll find a fascinating story written by my friend Mike Clelland, of a time when he and a friend of his experienced some missing time, after seeing a really powerful orange flash in the sky.

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I like your DMT theory, which, to my mind, generally speaking, raises the question of possible DMT triggers other than sudden physiological or psychological stress. If one entertains the possibility ^They have the capability of affecting specific outcomes in witness behavior, externally modulating isolated physiological functions - like triggering a DMT release - doesn't sound so implausible. (I'm not suggesting this happened to you.)

I'm quite familiar with Hidden Experience ;•). Mike Clelland is a mensch, and his openhearted inquiry into the nature of The Enigma is a fascinating epic all on its own. Truly an amazing breadth and depth of perspectives in Mike's roster of guests, and the uniquely personal character of his audio conversations is really quite extraordinary. Kudos, Mike.

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If one entertains the possibility ^They have the capability of affecting specific outcomes in witness behavior, externally modulating isolated physiological functions - like triggering a DMT release - doesn't sound so implausible. (I'm not suggesting this happened to you.)

And yet it's a rather interesting theory. Vallee and others have long theorized of the effect the lights often reported in UFOs might have on witnesses. The idea is that they bombard the mind with microwave radiation, which might elicit hallucinations or other altered states of consciousness. Maybe the key component is how said radiation might affect DMT production in the pineal gland.

Strassman's book has been sitting on my shelf for far too long. I really need to get down reading it one of these days ;)

Yeah, Mike is amazing. I want to have a chance to shake his hand, and thank him for all the love and effort he's put on Hidden Experience.

I'm glad that you feel welcomed. I'm sure we'll have plenty of great discussions in the future ^_^

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The idea is that they bombard the mind with microwave radiation, which might elicit hallucinations or other altered states of consciousness. Maybe the key component is how said radiation might affect DMT production in the pineal gland.

Microwave radiation seems like a crude tool for such ends, but I don't presume to know how it's done; only that it is.

While DMT theories are intriguing, they don't appear to be on the keyring to my experiences, most of which occurred while fully conscious and perfectly sober - the last being somewhat curious given the number of experiences (never counted, but I'm comfortable with "dozens") and my cyclical affections for wine and herb.

I'm uncharacteristically confident there is, in some cases, an external component to witness behavior. However, like you, I'm highly suspicious of reflexive assumptions regarding screen memories and the like. As more becomes known about cognition, I suspect the screen memory theory - that it is imposed rather than organic - will atrophy. I lean toward it being part of a natural cognitive process, albeit one easily exploited by entities, nonhuman or otherwise, with advanced knowledge of human physiology.

Leveraging existing physiological and psychological capabilities, limitations and tendencies is efficient, and efficiency is surely a marker of advanced intelligence... as demonstrated, sadly, by my verbosity, interminably long To Do List and cluttered hard drive. :•/

Oh, I haven't read the Strassman book, either. ;•) I'm poorly read on the paranormal/metaphysical/edgy-science classics.

P.S. Damned if I didn't see a very bright flash in the clear blue sky, with no visibly apparent source, shortly before 1 PM CST one day after writing the post about flashes. I love it when that happens.

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Yeah, i hate it how some researchers are SOOOO sure that the missing time and blocked memories present in so many accounts, are the results of the aliens deliberately trying to erase the abductees' minds, in order to cover their nefarious activities.

PUH-LEEASE

Mike's recent guest on Hidden Experience, Chris Augustin, said it best: Maybe the contact with these entities occurs on a plane of existence so overwhelmingly beyond our level of 'reality', we instinctively block it out. Maybe trying to regain that part of your life --the one that happens when you interact with them-- is part of the intended journey.

So, one thing I highly suspect, is that interacting with them occurs on a non-ordinary state of consciousness, regardless of whether they deliberately seek for it or not. Something not unlike the 'slowed time' effect many car accident victims experience, when they experience an event of seconds as if it happened in minutes.

Maybe that's why they are still patiently waiting, not doing what we, in our childish immaturity, would wish for --i.e. the stereotype of the landing in front of the White House lawn. maybe they are waiting for us to be mentally mature enough to handle a REAL interaction with them.

The Communion Whitley Strieber wrote about, some 20 years ago.

...Or maybe we're just expensive pets :P

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Jim Sparks says that the energetic aura of an alien is so much higher frequency than ours that it can be quite stressful for a human just being in the vicinity of them. The ET's indicated to Sparks that the number one agenda of the aliens was to get us to raise our frequency. I consider orgonite to be one of the ways in which we are doing so.

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I don't discount it. But maybe there's a simpler explanation: Maybe having an encounter with a non-human sentient being brings such a cognitive dissonance to the witness, because it's so completely outside our normal frames of reference.

It would be like having an encounter with a talking spider or something. It would naturally freak you out.

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Of course, it would be a total freak, but Sparks spent years with them in a sort of "classromm" where they very strictly forced him to learn a highly advanced alphabet that communicated vast amounts of information in relatively small space like a single piece of paper. It was like being in an old style Catholic school where the nuns are always rapping your knuckles for not paying absolute attention. The carrot they kept dangling in front of him to keep him going with the teachings was that he would given some more information about what they were ultimately up to if he would apply himself more diligently to learning this amazing multidimensional alphabet. He was by turns supremely irritated by and extremely fascinated with these dudes.
I highly recommend Sparks' book "The Keepers." It has great insights into ET mentality and what they want us to do with ours sorry selves while there is still time for us not to blow it entirely.

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Yeah, i hate it how some researchers are SOOOO sure that the missing time and blocked memories present in so many accounts, are the results of the aliens deliberately trying to erase the abductees' minds, in order to cover their nefarious activities.

PUH-LEEASE

Anything less than sinister requires venturing well past the exclamation points and caterwauling of the carnival barkers.

Whatever the proximate causes, trauma associated with close encounters is real, and, so, too, is the human-to-human exploitation it drags around - a product more of myopia more than malice, but a compound factor just the same.

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Mike's recent guest on Hidden Experience, Chris Augustin, said it best: Maybe the contact with these entities occurs on a plane of existence so overwhelmingly beyond our level of 'reality', we instinctively block it out. Maybe trying to regain that part of your life --the one that happens when you interact with them-- is part of the intended journey.

Chris Augustin's authenticity and clear-eyed resolve is instructive for anyone on a similar path. Considering the perilous vacuum of a demolished paradigm, anyone who achieves grounding post-Contact wins my respect.

My own missing time experience lasted sometime between a half-minute and nearly three hours. It keeps me from resettling in the shabby Potemkin village of consensus reality, and if that isn't a blessing, I don't know what is. It's also a rock in my shoe.

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So, one thing I highly suspect, is that interacting with them occurs on a non-ordinary state of consciousness, regardless of whether they deliberately seek for it or not. Something not unlike the 'slowed time' effect many car accident victims experience, when they experience an event of seconds as if it happened in minutes.

Whatever criteria may exist for prospective Contact - and I'm primarily familiar with the intentional, reciprocal variety - my understanding is that specific states of consciousness, including very ordinary ones, have corresponding levels of interaction. A basic concept, but only if one considers the proposition that individual human consciousness plays a role in at least some Contact events. The resistance to this, despite some cracks in the dam, is fairly extreme.

Even the briefest glimpse of some inexplicable light can have a psychic/telepathic component - one that may be experienced subtly, as a self-generated thought or intuitive hunch; or not-so-subtly, as a crystal clear telepathic communication. A more complex interaction might entail a psychic prompt to go outside and witness an anomalous mind-blowing spectacle of some kind. And there are synchro-mystical happenin's and dreamscape interactions and full blown missing time events. Something to think about when the cool kids declare the insignificance of "lights in the sky" and bemoan the prevalence of oh-so-credulous witnesses.

My impression is that repeaters like myself are introduced to progressively complex interactions which become increasingly state-dependent. Such a gradated process is consistent with Chris Augustin's comment about the (intrinsically) "overwhelming" nature of Contact. It also suggests "real" Contact - that is, direct interaction with corporeal hyperintelligence in "our" space-time dimension - may be a flawed ideal in terms of optimal conditions when information exchange/transfer is the primary objective.

It is unequivocally, irrevocably, ridiculously true that normal states of consciousness can yield extraordinary events, correspondences and insights to a significantly greater degree than is generally assumed.

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Maybe that's why they are still patiently waiting, not doing what we, in our childish immaturity, would wish for --i.e. the stereotype of the landing in front of the White House lawn. maybe they are waiting for us to be mentally mature enough to handle a REAL interaction with them.

Ah, yes. Contact, silver platter style. A common delusion shared by both grizzled cynic and wide-eyed ingenue. Alas, vicarious contact is not Contact, but deferment. Home Of The Brave by proxy. Lazy bastards.

I'm not so sure about that patiently waiting part, though. This planet is in very serious trouble, no prophesying necessary. Although it's a purely subjective perception, my sense is Contact is progressing at an accelerating rate. If so, a global event involving coordinated demonstrations - mass sightings - seems entirely possible, if not likely. A wildcard, but it's all in play.

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The Communion Whitley Strieber wrote about, some 20 years ago.

I've never read any of Strieber's books. Before 2009, I couldn't have picked him out of a lineup. I've since heard him a number of times as interviewer and interviewee. He's a great essayist. I do an impersonation of him, but I don't give that shit away; it's for premium subscribers only ;•P

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...Or maybe we're just expensive pets :P

As a person with expensive pets, that would easily make my short list of tolerable outcomes.

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Whatever the proximate causes, trauma associated with close encounters is real, and, so, too, is the human-to-human exploitation it drags around - a product more of myopia more than malice, but a compound factor just the same.

I like Strieber's phrase, that perhaps this is what the force of Evolution looks like to a conscious mind.

Nobody really wants to evolve. We'd all like to stay in our little comfy pond, where we feel warm and secure. Unfortunately for us, the pond is quickly drying out. So we'd better start growing some darn legs pronto!

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Whatever criteria may exist for prospective Contact - and I'm primarily familiar with the intentional, reciprocal variety - my understanding is that specific states of consciousness, including very ordinary ones, have corresponding levels of interaction. A basic concept, but only if one considers the proposition that individual human consciousness plays a role in at least some Contact events. The resistance to this, despite some cracks in the dam, is fairly extreme.

I do suspect that Consciousness plays a big role in all this. And that interacting with these entities also inadvertently triggers a profound change in the psyche of the Experiencer. I don't know if Emlong's explanation re. vibrations is the right answer or not, but maybe it's just semantics trying to explain the same phenomenon.

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My impression is that repeaters like myself are introduced to progressively complex interactions which become increasingly state-dependent. Such a gradated process is consistent with Chris Augustin's comment about the (intrinsically) "overwhelming" nature of Contact. It also suggests "real" Contact - that is, direct interaction with corporeal hyperintelligence in "our" space-time dimension - may be a flawed ideal in terms of optimal conditions when information exchange/transfer is the primary objective.

It's either a slow and painful process of acclimation, or a crash-course in higher states of awareness.

Right now I'm thinking of the movie Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind. In the movie, hundreds if not thousands of people were imprinted with the idea of going to Devil's mountain to meet the Others. But in the end only Roy Neary and Gillian complete the mission. Maybe it's the same with the experiencers: Thousands if not millions get imprinted, but only a handful will be able to go the distance.

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Ah, yes. Contact, silver platter style. A common delusion shared by both grizzled cynic and wide-eyed ingenue. Alas, vicarious contact is not Contact, but deferment. Home Of The Brave by proxy. Lazy bastards.

LOL yeah, it's part of our Microwave Mentality I guess.

20 years ago, when the big UFO flap hit Mexico, I was so certain that direct contact was imminent. There was some guy who predicted a big UFO manifestation over Mexico city on New Year's eve. So OBVIOUSLY I stayed up in my uncles' house's terrace waiting to get a glimpse of the UFOs, while the rest of my family were celebrating below. It was a sobering lesson.

Now, as I'm reaching 40, I'm getting to a point in my life where I don't really care whether direct contact will ever happen or not, and if it does, whether I'll get to witness it.

UFOlogy has become my personal alchemy. It's been an invaluable tool to grow intellectually, and even morally. I think that's enough of a reward for me ...even if I don't even get to yell "I told you so!" to all the people who made fun of me in the past :P

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I've never read any of Strieber's books. Before 2009, I couldn't have picked him out of a lineup. I've since heard him a number of times as interviewer and interviewee. He's a great essayist. I do an impersonation of him, but I don't give that shit away; it's for premium subscribers only ;•P

LOL I'm not a subscriber in Unknown Country, and I can understand why people might have issues with the man. Nevertheless, I still pay close attention to what he's got to say, and even his own ambivalence is enough proof for me that he's been in contact with something real.

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I do suspect that Consciousness plays a big role in all this. And that interacting with these entities also inadvertently triggers a profound change in the psyche of the Experiencer.

I don't know if emlong's explanation re. vibrations is the right answer or not, but maybe it's just semantics trying to explain the same phenomenon.

I agree with you and emlong, as your respective interpretations speak to reactive and proactive aspects of the metamorphosis associated with Contact.

There was a time when language like "vibration" and "frequency" made me look for the exit door. About a week ago. I kid. It was more like a month. :•P Living through the advent of New Age culture may have made me allergic. So I just substitute V&F with mindfulness, which I think of as awareness, consideration and deliberation.

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Right now I'm thinking of the movie Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind. In the movie, hundreds if not thousands of people were imprinted with the idea of going to Devil's mountain to meet the Others. But in the end only Roy Neary and Gillian complete the mission. Maybe it's the same with the experiencers: Thousands if not millions get imprinted, but only a handful will be able to go the distance.

It is an interesting thing to include in the story. Great metaphor.

I saw this film in its entirety for the first time just a couple of years ago. Live-blogging it would be arduous and fun.

"I guess you've noticed something a little strange with Dad. It's okay, though. I'm still Dad." I have to admit, watching Roy's mania and obsessiveness was as uncomfortable as it was amusing.

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Now, as I'm reaching 40, I'm getting to a point in my life where I don't really care whether direct contact will ever happen or not, and if it does, whether I'll get to witness it.

I am ambivalent about the prospects for a global contact event in my lifetime (I'm fifty), but The Enigma delights in defying expectation, so I can't dismiss the possibility. I suspect it all comes down to closing speed and consequence.

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UFOlogy has become my personal alchemy. It's been an invaluable tool to grow intellectually, and even morally. I think that's enough of a reward for me ...even if I don't even get to yell "I told you so!" to all the people who made fun of me in the past :P

Then you've taken the very best The Enigma has to offer.

When my concerned neighbor-friend thought I was losing my mind with all this UFO business, she had a dramatic, unambiguous sighting from her backyard. She didn't pursue the subject, but whatever doubts she had concerning my state of mind and experiences seem to have vanished, replaced by a quiet sense of wonder when the subject occasionally arises. Similar events occurred with my wife, my father and a couple of others at the periphery of my very small social circle.

It is satisfying, but, surprisingly, not in the I told you so way one might think. The gratification, for me, comes from being in a position to provide a small measure of support - the lightest touch possible - to the stunned neophyte presented with a unique opportunity for personal growth.

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LOL I'm not a subscriber in Unknown Country, and I can understand why people might have issues with the man. Nevertheless, I still pay close attention to what he's got to say, and even his own ambivalence is enough proof for me that he's been in contact with something real.

I doubt Whitley would appreciate the satirical homage, but in the humor vacuum of ufology, I take the laughs where I find 'em - no harm, no foul and no malice intended.

As for his veracity, and that of most others, considering the unusual nature of my own experiences - and barring a compelling reason to do otherwise - I am more or less obligated to take people at their word, although I do so with an acute awareness of the ontological minefield where Event, Experience, Recollection and Interpretation converge.

What people want to know, I cannot tell them.
What I can tell them, they do not want to know.

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There was a time when language like "vibration" and "frequency" made me look for the exit door. About a week ago. I kid. It was more like a month. :•P Living through the advent of New Age culture may have made me allergic. So I just substitute V&F with mindfulness, which I think of as awareness, consideration and deliberation.

Yeah, the New Age terms tend to be annoying. Some people like to sprinkle the word 'quantum' here and there, the same way the Teosophists liked to talk about 'etheric' substances. That said, if these concepts are merely understood as working mental models, in order to help us organize our thoughts, then they can still be useful, despite their shortcomings. The problem is when people take them in a too-literal sense.

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I saw this film in its entirety for the first time just a couple of years ago. Live-blogging it would be arduous and fun.

Are you $#!tting me??!

Wow. Just... wow. So I take it you never really had an interest in this subject, until you started to realize your own personal involvement with it. Me, I'm the complete opposite ;)

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When my concerned neighbor-friend thought I was losing my mind with all this UFO business, she had a dramatic, unambiguous sighting from her backyard. She didn't pursue the subject, but whatever doubts she had concerning my state of mind and experiences seem to have vanished, replaced by a quiet sense of wonder when the subject occasionally arises. Similar events occurred with my wife, my father and a couple of others at the periphery of my very small social circle.

Yeah, I perceive something similar with my own family. They've had sightings of their own too. They are much more open to the subject by now, but they just don't obsess over it like I do. Maybe they are on the right track and I'm the one who's got it all wrong...

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I doubt Whitley would appreciate the satirical homage, but in the humor vacuum of ufology, I take the laughs where I find 'em - no harm, no foul and no malice intended.

The man has suffered a lot in his life. His career and reputations destroyed. His life being the subject of vulgar punchlines. And yet, it disturbs me how his privileged opportunity hasn't granted him a wiser approach to laugh of his own problems.

My personal test to assess the value of a person's teachings consist on noticing whether that person has a healthy sense of humor. If people take themselves too seriously, then I tend to look the other way. And I do think keeping a good sense of humor is invaluable in this field, otherwise you risk a lot of heartache, and even falling into mental psychosis.

Yeah, I'm also trying to learn to be less judgmental of people's claims. For even if I have my doubts about them, I need to remind myself that they are people too, not just letters on my computer screen.

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this is getting to be longer than my dissertation!!!! LOL

...I forgot how I got here but everyone seems to be heading off in that direction. I hope someone brought food. I have a feeling this is going to be a long journey................

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I had a sighting very recently, too. On my birthday of all days. I was on a hike in Los Angeles and at the top of a hill known as the Culver City Stairs. I was doing some stretching/yoga poses and saw two silver disk looking things, floating in the air, next to one another. They were extremely noticeable and I was surprised that more people weren't stopping what they were doing to look at them. I watched them for a minute and then rationalized that perhaps they were just silver helium balloons (like the kind you can buy at the grocery store for a kid's birthday). This struck me as possible and so I thought to myself, "I'll do some stretching on my other side - with my head turned away from the objects. And if they're balloons they'll still be there or somewhere in the vicinity when I turn back."

Alas, when I turned back they had vanished.

I could be wrong about what I saw, but I felt quite special on the way home. And regardless of what it was - that's a nice feeling to have. Especially on your birthday!

Anyway, RPG - I don't think you are mistaken.

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They were extremely noticeable and I was surprised that more people weren't stopping what they were doing to look at them.

Well, who knows? There are many stories in the field of people standing next to each other, one sees the UFO and the other doesn't. Likewise how many times have we read about photographs of weird things taken by people who didn't notice anything out of the ordinary while they snapped the picture?

Your sighting was way cooler than mine. I'm jealous ;)

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Good sightings are very enervating. It is a bit like being a lone outcast on a desert island spotting a ship off in the distance. We are that lone outcast in a vast sea of space and that UFO is a marker that there may be others out there. You don't realize how lonely you actually were deep down until you see the otherworldy looking thing. There is nothing like one's own sighting. You become a member of a "club." Nothing can really prepare you for what your psychological reaction will be. I was surprised by how boyish I became in the days immediately after my sighting. I realized suddenly how little we actually know, and how thrilled we are likely to be when the next Big Thing comes along.
Authority structures have plenty of reasons to be reticent about UFO's, but after my sighting I suddenly had another insight in the cover up - contact will be an amazingly uplifting and imagination loaded experience. It will be powerful antidote to all the negativity and suppression of spirit being engaged in now by authority, and it will take our consciousness beyond our petty human squabbles of the day - disensions purposefully fomented by authority to keep us limited and scared. Assuming we don't have a "Mars Attacks" scenario we will be vaulted into a whole new awareness and enthusiasm for upholding spirit.

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I love that movie! The part when the American National hymn is played by a mariachi band? People in the theater started clapping :P

My ideas about Contact are always in motion. One idea I currently subscribe to is that people think of the 1st Contact the same way they imagine death: a simple one-step event --i.e. with death people assume they'll stand in front of the gates of Heaven, they'll be greeted by St. Peter, and they will be immediately escorted to meet the Big Boss with a white beard.

So my ideas about death are somewhat similar to my ideas re. contact with the others: We'll have a first major step, which will be pretty ground-breaking, BUT after that there will come many more tasks and tests, which might last hundreds, if not thousands of years, until we finally reach the same evolutionary level of the rest of the Galactic club or whatever.

Likewise, I don't believe you get to meet with the Big Cheese after you croak. I think one keeps on a personal journey towards higher levels of perfection, until you're finally ready to commune with the Ultimate Source :)

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Beautifully stated, emlong.

What people want to know, I cannot tell them.
What I can tell them, they do not want to know.

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it was a warning fo the hurricane. people always see bad stuff in the sky or UFOs before a natural disaster right? so maybe those Ancient Aliens guys are right :P

I mean "they" sure as hell could see it from space. maybe they were like "what the f@$% is this mess?"

...I forgot how I got here but everyone seems to be heading off in that direction. I hope someone brought food. I have a feeling this is going to be a long journey................

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Well, Sandy didn't affect us down here in Mexico, so... maybe that's why they quickly left: because they realized "Oh $#!t! Glonkrd gave us the wrong coordinates again!" ;)

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...it did hit the Caribbean, which may count in this case....

...I forgot how I got here but everyone seems to be heading off in that direction. I hope someone brought food. I have a feeling this is going to be a long journey................