Wondering About Wonder Woman?

It seems that NBC decided not to option the new remake of the Wonder Woman TV series. Via The Daily Mail:

Despite months of hype, NBC have declined to option the super hero series by David E. Kelley and Warner Bros. TV. Kelley had penned a script that updated the comic book classic to have the heroine as a hard-headed businesswoman by day and a baddie botherer by night. However, U.S. industry magazine Entertainment Weekly says that the show's completed pilot garnered mixed reviews at test screenings. It also reports that there were concerns about the character's updated superhero costume, which had lost the Stars And Stripes and amped up the Greek goddess instead.

Is anyone shedding tears over this? I must confess: I never really got the concept of Wonder Woman. Sure, it's obviously a feminine counterpart to Superman —and that's fine by me— but I never really saw anything in the character aside of some weird dominatrix fetish out of the Disco era —which was further reinforced by the remake's choice of latex for the new costume.

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That doesn't mean I didn't actually watched the original show when I was young, but probably for all the wrong reasons ;)

Maybe the moral of the story is that you can't bring back a pop culture icon that doesn't reflect the Zeitgeist of the times. In this day & age, I just can't buy the idea of a demi-goddess running around the streets fighting crime in THAT outfit. I would rather choose something like this for the costume: [Source]

You could still use the red & blue colors to appease the sensitivities of 'traditionalists' —read jingoists :P

The show producers could have also consulted with Alex Ross and Mark Waid. Their magnum opus Kingdom Come is IMO the best rendition of Wonder Woman you could ever find: a cold detached super-being with a warrior's mentality who looks down upon humans and sees force as the best way to resolve conflicts; it brilliantly interprets DC's unspoken philosophy that the only way to keep the gods' powers in check is by having them learn to appreciate life from a human level.

But hey —I could be wrong. maybe there's some Wonder Woman hardcore fan out there who can make a strong case about why this show deserves air time... anybody?

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Redoubt's picture
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I'm not a supporter (in any way) of the globalists concept of a one-world humanity. Not that it's a bad idea but the current application is being force-fed to a world that just isn't ready for it. As such, I'm expecting mother Earth to vomit it back up.

That was the lead-in.

Wonder Woman was, as you said, the feminine counterpart to Superman. The problem with both of them today is that they were originally American inventions designed to forward the American ideal and sporting American icons. You know, 'Truth, Justice and the American Way'. The Stars and Stripes on WW's apparel was fine from the Depression years through the early stages of the Cold War.

But today?

We've grown up since then. And it's not so much that we don't take pride in who we are as it is the understanding that other nations take pride in who they are as well. We shouldn't force Old Glory on anyone. People get tired of it and begin to see it as arrogance. If we haven't learned that lesson yet, we will be hated more tomorrow than we are today.

Batman does well because Gotham City could be anywhere. The Dark Knight could spring up from any major world city to combat the crime that exists in all of them.

I like the idea of a female, superhero. It's my personal opinion that women are stronger than their brethren in many ways that don't include upper body strength or a thick skull. But girls still do suffer from a society that's so often penis-centric... and find that self esteem is really tough to come by until they've smacked their husband over the head with a skillet for the first time.

Wonder Woman in a black, cat-woman-like costume... that's the ticket.

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I agree with you. To me the appealing idea of the super-hero is the individual that is free to do what others can't and yet puts those powers in the service of the less fortunate. It's also appealing as a paradox, since if you're there to save people all the time, you deprive them of the possibility of saving themselves.

Yet modern heroes that are still popular (at least in the movies) are the outsiders: the ones that are seen as a threat to the establishment and institutions. Batman will never be officially acknowledged as the savior of Gotham because he undermines the authority of the police, and their monopoly over force.

Likewise with the X-Men, Spiderman, etc.

There's also the notion that even the younger generations have learned we don't live in a black-white world, where the good guys and the villains are easily identified by the color of their costume.

As a strong female role model, I like Storm and Jean Grey of the X-Men: intelligent women, powerful, but that keep their their aggressive nature in check —or at least they try to.

There's also Xena, but I never really watched the show so I can't comment on it. Still, I find it as a much more interesting character than Wonder Woman.

Wonder Woman in a black, cat-woman-like costume... that's the ticket.

LOL yeah well, not that I would mind, but one would question the demographics' goal of such a program ;)

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"It's also appealing as a paradox, since if you're there to save people all the time, you deprive them of the possibility of saving themselves."

This is exactly why I think that religion works and ET doesn't... when it comes to human salvation from human stupidity.

God... God the Father, God the creator, God the maker of the universe, requires no special place not already embedded within us. Whether God is a white-haired male or a female with red, flowing mane or just a spirit that can manipulate matter and energy; we don't have to surrender anything because we began there.

Everything since remains while our moral compass is not threatened.

But when we start talking about being saved by anything or anyone else, we do become secondary to an external entity. We become lesser, dependent creatures who were unable to overcome... to eventually take a spot as equals.

Superheroes that live alongside of us are okay because they have embraced the human condition and become one of us. Superman knew love and weakness from of same. And to be sure, he was not immortal.

But land a UFO in the UN parking lot and let the world body be addressed by Mr. Gray (or whatever), we decline into one of those species that Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock had to save themselves from.

This is a great topic :)

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Superman knew love and weakness from of same. And to be sure, he was not immortal.

But Superman cheated!

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;)

Yeah, I definitely agree with everything you wrote, and these comic book examples are great because they really help us understand the purpose of the human condition.

Although I must admit, sometimes I like to fantasize about what it would be like if a superbeing arrived to Earth and started fixing the problems of our planet. It's a fun fantasy, but utterly childish, and in fact I seem to recall that Whitley Strieber had the same thoughts, and the 'visitors' eventually gave him a very harsh lesson.

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"We've grown up since then."

...if only that were true...go somewhere like texas or oklahoma and you'll find "we" haven't grown up at all...sigh...

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...can someone explain the point of an invisible jet?

...I forgot how I got here but everyone seems to be heading off in that direction. I hope someone brought food. I have a feeling this is going to be a long journey................

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How about Superman envy? :P

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