The Pawns In The Game

THE PAWNS IN THE GAME: AMERICA'S CRISIS: HAS SOMEONE CALL THE DEBT IN

By Fahim A. Knight-EL

The United States economy in the last twelve (12) months has had more economic challenges perhaps not seen since the Great Depression of 1929, in which the United States economy collapsed sending political, economic and social shock waves throughout America and around the world. Dr. Malachi Z. York in his book titled, "Leviathan: 666" stated, "The Depression of 1929-1937 A.D. was caused by too many goods chasing too little currency. Instead of making more currency available, the Federal Reserve deliberately took currency and credit out of circulation to cause the Depression. The bankers took over the defaulted properties. The New Deal was instituted whereby the Federal Reserve expanded the credit currency and national debt." (Reference: Malachi Z. York;” Leviathan: 666" pg. 323).

This is almost like deja Vu because the exact thing is taking place in 2008 that took place almost 80 years ago—blame the money changers, on these present day economic events because they are inventive and cyclical. Who are the Elitist men that preside over humanity? David Rockefeller, Harry Oppenheimer, Baron Eric de Rothschild, Karl von Habsburg, Juan Carlos, Edgar M. Bronfman, Sr., Lord Peter Carrington, etc. http://fahimknightsworld.blogspot.com/20...

The devaluation of the United States dollar, the Subprime fiasco, the escalating Oil pricing and perhaps the first time in the history of the United States, the Federal Reserve financially rescued, a private investment firm—Bear Sterns. This unilateral decision was made by the Federal Reserve to rescue Bear Sterns and engineered JP Morgan's purchase of Bear Stearns with a $29 billion guarantee was unprecedented. But this writer believes it was well calculated and appeared to be on the surface diametrically opposed to how we were taught business principles 101 in America. The system of Capitalism, in particular private enterprise foster risk versus projective profit incentives—the free market arena is for players (the taxpayers did not share in the astronomical profit margins these financial vipers reaped over their many years in business) and the taxpayers should not be burden with external debt incurred by private Fortune 500 companies for what appears to be poor business decisions that has adversely affected their bottom line figures. Moreover, greed a was factor in their so-called failing.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two of the largest home mortgage lenders in the United States in which the Federal Reserve pledged to backstop Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac up to $200 billion dollars as a bailout move and also, American International Group (AIG) was bailout by the Federal Reserve—they readily passed the debt on to American taxpayers as though they are in a position to absorb these private business financial crisis—who already has a tight economic noose around their necks. These staunch capitalist are blaming the "have nots" for their so-called profit losses and accusing the public of manipulating the system of credit, but are taking no responsibility for poor due diligence because there is no honor amongst thieves.

The international bankers are putting the squeeze on the American people, in particular and the global economy in general, they have acquired the majority of the world's gold and has built the world economy on a worthless piece of paper (Federal Reserve note) and of course, they are behind orchestrating Wall Street and the world market collapse.

Ahmad Thompson in his article titled, "The King Who Has No Clothes (the DAJJAL)" stated, "The money used to be made principally of Gold or Silver. Since it was made from these precious metals it had inherent value. The first banks were formed to look after other people's money by keeping it in a safe place, although of course even at this stage money still had a palpable and valuable form. The practice arose whereby when someone deposited Gold or Silver in the bank, the banker would give the depositor a written receipt, whereby he promised to repay the Gold or Silver when that receipt was presented to him. The practice then arose that these receipts became transferable. Thus the depositors of the Gold was able to buy goods to the value of the Gold in the bank, by giving his receipt to the seller of the goods. The seller of the goods could then take that receipt to the bank, and collect the Gold, even though it was not he who had originally deposited the Gold there. Since Gold and Silver are relatively heavy, and since paper is relatively light, the bankers then hit upon the idea of printing paper money. Any one who deposited Gold and Silver with them was given this paper money. That paper money could then be used in any number of consecutive transactions, the understanding being that anyone at any time who had these notes come into his or her possession could, if he or she wanted, take them to the bank and exchange them for the Gold or Silver which they represented. At this simple stage every paper note was backed by its equivalent amount of Gold or Silver. You could exchange one for the other at any time." (Reference: Ahmad Thompson; "The King Who Has No Clothes).

Thus, these gangster have no shame in their game, they are continuingly making zillions of dollars off the misery of humanity on the backend and then hold the ignorant masses on the front-end liable for the recent financial woes, which they themselves created—they are bent on getting all the money from their modern day slaves (yes debt is a form of slavery). Texe Marrs in his book titled, "Circle of Intrigued: The Hidden Inner Circle of the Global Illuminati Conspiracy stated, "Cloaked in mystery and shrouded in secrecy, the Inner Circle is comprised of ten powerful men. These men meet regularly--at least twice per year--secluded location. Their proceedings take place in a locked and sealed suite at a swank and exclusive resort hotel, or at a private estate owned by one their minions. Their decisions and agenda, kept top secret, result in the most dire and grievous consequences for ordinary citizens. Wars, revolutions, scientific discoveries, diseases, financial booms--and crashes!--these are some of the life-giving-destroying decisions made at their confidential sessions. The future of Planet Earth and almost six billion inhabitants is plotted out in the dark recesses of the mind and hearts of these ten cruel men. Most American know little or nothing of the existence of the Inner Circle and are totally oblivious to its grand design." (Reference: Texe Marrs; "Circle of Intrigued: The Hidden Inner Circle of the Global Illuminati Conspiracy" pg. 15 &16).

US Government in 1913 turned over our monetary system to a bunch of private bankers that operates behind the Federal Reserve System and gave these twelve Central Banks ruler-ship over our monetary system. This is a list of Banking Institutions (Central Banks) that rules the entire planet: 1. Rothschild Bank of London, Rothschild Bank of Berlin, 2. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (Rockefeller) Chase National bank of New York (Rockefeller). 3. First National Bank of New York. 5. Hanover National Bank of New York. 6. Goldman Sachs of New York. 7. Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York. 8. Lehman Brothers of New York. 9. Warburg Bank of Hamburg Warburg Bank of Amsterdam. 10. Lazard Brothers of Paris. 11. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy. 12. JP Morgan. The Thirteenth Tribe is the Mother of all banks—The Bank for International Settlements based in Basel, Switzerland. (Reference: Ashahed M. Muhammad; “The Synagogue of Satan”)

These so-called failing financial institutions are only subsidiaries of the Central Banks, the Central Banks use them to deal with us peasants and act as sophisticated collection agencies that enforces the interest rates and is on the frontline of the buying and selling of currency pursuant to the ground rules laid out by the Central Banks (for laymans, when you negotiate an interest rate on a loan, you have purchased a credit base dollar and has agreed to repay it at a higher interest percentage rate than the actual amount you borrowed—this is buying and selling money, but this writer is from the streets and where I am from we call it "loan sharking").

In all actuality, the world's currency for the most part has no value—paper which has become the medium of exchange and was created out of thin air. Pat Robertson in his book title, "The New World Order" stated, "The companion secret to wealth building is compound interest, called by Baron Rothschild 'the eight wonder of the world.' If it is possible to create money out of nothing, then loan it at interest. Think how more wealth can be created if the money is not repaid but allowed to compound year after year." (Reference: Pat Robertson; "The New World Order" pg. 121 & 122).

The Federal Reserve is the go between the people, banks and the Central Banks. Eustace Mullins in the "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve" further stated, "Federal Reserve notes are actually promissory notes, promise to pay, rather than what we traditionally consider money. They are interest bearing notes issued against interest bearing government bonds, paper issued with nothing but paper backing, which is known as fiat money, because it has only the fiat of the issuer to guarantee these notes. The Federal Reserve Act authorizes the issuance of these notes 'for the purpose of making advances to Federal Reserve banks . . . The said notes shall be obligations of the United States. They shall be redeemed in gold on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States in the District of Columbia.' Tourists visiting the Bureau of Printing and Engraving on the Mall in Washington D.C. view the printing of Federal Reserve notes at this government agency on contract from the Federal Reserve System for the nominal sum of .00260 each in units of 1,000, at the same price regardless of the denomination. These notes, printed for a private bank, then become liabilities and obligations of the United States government and are added to our present $4 trillion debt. The government had no debt when the Federal Reserve Act was passed in 1913." (Reference: Eustace Mullins; "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve" pg. 203). This link give us a good explanation of how the Federal Reserve system operates

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This writer learned by casually studying finance and business; in particular, the capitalist economic system and learned that the major means of production and distribution was a matter of private enterprises, comprised of corporate ownership being in the hands of individuals and private corporations. Eustace Mullins in his monumental work titled, "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve stated, "The International consortium of financiers known as the Bilderbergers, who meet annually in profound secrecy to determine the destiny of the western world, is a creature of the Rockefeller-Rothschild alliance, and that it held its third meeting on St. Simons Island, only a short distance from Jekyll Island. Larson also states that 'The Rockefeller interests work in close alliance with the Rothschilds and other central banks." (Reference: Eustace Mullins; "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve” pg.173).

The bailout of Bear-Sterns was not a decision put forth by referendum where it was brought before the citizens of the United States for vote nor did the United States Congress or not even President Bush because the Federal Reserve does not act under the United States Constitution or our jurisprudence system; it functions with sovereign immunity. This writer has watched Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Shalom Bernanke testify and give reports—generic explanations for the rise and/or decline of interest rates before the United States Congress as though he is being held accountable to the American people. The concept of fiscal responsibility does not apply to the Federal Reserve. This is only an illusion. Reference: Fahim A. Knight-EL http://fahimknightsworld.blogspot.com/20...

Thus, in this writer's last article titled, "None Dare Call It Conspiracy: There is no Other Name to Call it by" http://fahimknightsworld.blogspot.com/20... there were some critics from various websites where the article was posted who could not phantom nor accept or were unwilling to explore the possibilities that their existed a small Cartel who literally rule the world and pull the purse strings on the political, economic and social events that affects all humanity.

The evidence of this is becoming clear at each passing day. The entire financial crisis that the Unites States is experiencing, is being orchestrated behind the curtain. One responder tried to deduce the above article to anti-Semitism and even declared me as an anti-Semite because some of the evidence pointed to a small sector of a powerful Jewish Cabal that were involved in high finance and banking. This writer abhors any form of racism and bigotry and has fought against these type injustices all my adult life. This writer has no power to disrupt, alter or impede Jewish people's progress which rendered his criticism of me and my writings even more senseless. However, there is a Zionist influence that is undeniable and some time it becomes quite difficult to ascertain the truth because of the layers upon layers of intentional deception.

Some damn body has a stranglehold over humanity and it appears to be the same names and faces that have been recurring in American history since the inception of our Republic and throughout the world; a bloodline of powerful invisible rulers of Dynastic families that have been inspired by greed and the accumulation of wealth by any means necessary seems to always be front and center in this debate.

David Icke in his book titled, "The Biggest Secret" describes it this way: "The control of money and banking via the Rothschilds and others are crucial to this. One of the brotherhood's most important coups was the creation in the 1913 of the Federal Reserve, the so-called 'central bank' of the United States. It is neither federal nor has any reserve. It is a cartel of private banks owned by the 20 founding families, mostly Europeans, which today decides the interest rates for the United States and lends non-existent money (figures on a screen) to the US Government on which the taxpayers have to pay interest. This is what we call the 'American Deficit'--it is fresh air. The Federal Government of the United States does not own a single share in the Federal Reserve and American citizens can not purchase them. Profits exceed $150 billion a year and the Federal Reserve has not once in all its history published audited accounts." (Reference: David Icke; "The Biggest Secret" pg 219).

They completed there financial enslavement of humanity in 1913 (the establishment of the Federal Reserve Act and system) at that secret meeting at Jekyll Island off the coast of Georgia where the International Bankers and a bunch rogue politicians met with criminal intent (a Conspiracy was hatched to rob the world monetary system) performed and enacted one of the greatest bloodless revolutions in the history of mankind. It put Mao Se Tung, Ho chi Ming and, the French Revolution, and the Bolsheviks Revolution to shame and other great revolution to shame. There was not one bullet fired, but the invisible casualties would be made visible immediately and over time by this master too slave relationship that would bind and chain humanity forever to DEBT and psychologically convincing them that this was the greatest economic system in human history, as defined by Adam Smith in his treatise "The Wealth of Nations" and they have controlled the people's will to resist.

This is how it played out, William Guy Carr in his book titled, "Pawns In The Game" stated, “Mr. Paul Warburg's creation of 1913 had been steadily attempting to set up a 'Central Banking Organization which would acknowledge NO AUTHORITY ON THIS PLANET AS ABOVE IT (emphasis mine). Hitler knew that if Warburg and associates had their way, the Bank of International Settlements would become as autocratic in regard to international affairs, as the bank of England is in regard to British National Affairs and Foreign Policy. Politicians and statesmen were being asked to believe this banker's dream would stabilize the banking system of the world. In this contention they were absolutely correct. The nigger-in-gold-pile is the fact, that with the realization of this dream, all hope of freedom and plenty for the individual and private industry would automatically disappear. The citizens of the world have the same financial security as the criminals who enjoys social security behind bars. Against this process of reducing the people of the world to financial slavery Hitler decided to take a definite stand, and refused to allow Germany to be merged into the league of Monopolist States, secretly controlled by agents of the Illuminati”. (Reference: William Guy Carr; "Pawns In The Game" pg. 154-155).

William Guy continues: “After Paul Warburg's Federal Reserve System had been in operation three years i.e.1913 to 1916, President Woodrow Wilson summed up the economic situation in the United States of America as follows:” A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credits. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. . .We have come to be one of the worst ruled; one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments, in the civilized world. . .no longer a government by conviction and the free vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men.' That is actually what modern so-called democracy really means." (Reference: William Guy Carr; "Pawns In The Game" pg. 154-155).

Yet, it was a coup d’état with unimaginable ramifications and consequences that would impact the political, economic and social lives of many generations to come. The financial trouble on Wall Street is being induced by the twelve Central Banks and the Federal Reserve System is its front—disguising itself as a governmental entity, but is privately owned by the same twelve Central Banks that determines nations currency value, interest rates and daily strength and weakness of the global financial markets. (Reference: William Greider; “Secrets of the Temple: How the Federal Reserve Runs the Country”).

Eustace Mullins in "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve" further stated: "Even the present Chairman of the House Banking Committee claims that the Federal Reserve is government agency, and that it is not privately own. The fact is that the government has never owned a single share of the Federal Reserve Bank Stock. This charade stems from the fact that the President of the United States appoints the governors of the Federal Reserve Board, who are then confirmed by the Senate. The secret author of the Act, banker Paul Warburg, a representative of the Rothschild bank, coined the name 'Federal' from thin air for the Act, which he wrote to achieve two of his pet aspirations, an 'elastic currency,' read (rubber check), and to facilitate trading in acceptance, international trade credits. Warburg was founder and president of the International Acceptance Corporation, and made billions in profits by trading in this commercial paper. Sec. 7 of the Federal Reserve Act provides 'Federal reserve banks, including the capital and surplus therein, and income derived there from, shall be exempt from Federal, state and local taxation, except taxes on real estate.' Government buildings do not pay real estate tax.” (Reference: Eustace Mullins; "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve" pg. 202 & 203).

There are many who refuse or unwilling to explore the possibility that there are invisible powers and entities that are manipulating our very existence. This writer deliberately did not venture in the connection between the various ORDERS (Club of Rome, House of Rothschild, Skull and Bones, Order of Illuminati, Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission, etc. This writer has written extensively in the past, on the Order connection to High Finance in which these powerful men are ranking members in these various front Orders and communicate in a language of symbolism that is indiscernible to the masses of the people. (Reference: Dr. John Coleman: “Conspirators Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of the 300”).

Many of them are high degree Freemasons, but even these powerful and influential Orders—there is a Circle, within a Circle, within a Circle. These layers of deception allows these Dynastic Families and Elitist to shield their inner workings and identities from the naked eye. There loyalty is power and greed. The recent United States financial Crisis is not incidental or coincidental, but these Invisible Power Brokers have the ability to call the debt in and it is being orchestrated by Federal Reserve and the Central Banks—they never lose money, they create misery in order to make more money. (Reference: Gary Allen and Larry Abraham: “None Dare Call it Conspiracy”)

This writer have been watching US Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson encourage Americans to continue to have faith and hope in the United States economy. These bailouts are estimated to eventually cost the American taxpayers one (1) trillion dollars. Secretary Paulson is a low level front man that takes his orders from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Shalom Bernanke and no one can stop the bleeding, but the invisible men who are behind the Central Banks and right now the bleeding is profitable.

Many like me, have produced documented evidence and has done empirical research to substantiate our findings, which points to the fact, that clandestine forces do exist and they secretly rule over humanity. These present crisis are explainable and some economist or academician are paid to give us abstract and generic answers, but in most instances, even these Talking Heads have little to no knowledge that someone is pulling the purse strings. Our critics have bought into the popular view of the powerful propaganda machines which is the most influential and powerful arm of the Invisible Power Brokers.Our monetary system is a hoax and it was inevitable that money that is created in thin air was a slick magician trick and at some point it would come tumbling down. http://fahimknightsworld.blogspot.com/20...

Pat Robertson in his book, “The New World Order” stated, “American money is also made up of ‘notes’ of the Central bank. Take a dollar bill out of your wallet and read what it says. It is not silver or a gold certificate. It is a ‘note’ issued by America’s Central Bank. If you do for any reason don’t like it, all you will get in exchange is another Federal Reserve note. It is money created out of nothing, printed paper backed only by a private Central Bank. Yet it says, contrary to the Constitution, it is ‘legal tender for all debts, public and private.’ ” (Reference: Pat Robertson; “The New World Order” pg. 120).

These same Invisible Power Brokers, the Central Banks and their Dynastic families are behind the war in Iraq; moreover, stealing oil and hiding their dirty hands behind their low-level operative President George W. Bush and United States Foreign Policy. They are not fully telling the American people that the United States economy is in a recession, but this sounds like a contradiction when the United States taxpayers are spending billions of dollars in a war that America can not win. Why do not the United States just end this unjust war and use some of that money air marked for Iraq to aid the suffering and slumping United States economy? United States Foreign policy is being driven not by Congress or the President, but by a secret Cabal of powerful men. Lastly, Oil theft means more to them then us useless eaters. (Reference: William Cooper: “Behold A Pale Horse”).

Fahim A. Knight Chief Researcher for KEEPING IT REAL THINK TANK located in Durham, NC; our mission is to inform African Americans and all people of good will of the pending dangers that lie ahead; as well as decode the symbolisms and reinterpret the hidden meanings behind those who operate as invisible forces, but covertly rules the world. We are of the belief that an enlighten world will be better prepared to throw off the shackles of ignorance and not be willing participants for the slaughter. Our MOTTO is speaking truth to power. Fahim A. Knight can be reached at fahimknight@yahoo.com.

STAY AWAKE UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN,
Fahim A. Knight-EL

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Relax, the LHC will start up again in 2 months or so. Then in another 2 or 3 months the Earth will be swallowed by the black hole, and all monetary problems will go away.

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I think this clip speaks volumes and I want to share it with TDG Family. Some time this is the position we must take. I AM NOT AFRAID TO STAND ALONE

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Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
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It is a grim future, made up by silly old men who thought too highly of themselves.

We must think there's a way out of this mess. Otherwise we might as well put a gun close to our temples, and pull the trigger.

Good health to you all.

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I agree with much of what you say, Fahim, for these are ideas I have had for sometime.

Over the past few years I have been saying to anyone who would listen, both in the UK and outside it, that the UK, and the US are both "bankrupt". I was told, politely, that I didn't know what I was talking about.

Perhaps not, after all I am not a professional economist, but I do have to balance my budget each week, and I have also made mistakes creating unnecessary debt which I am now trying to get out of.

When I started looking at the modern form of money, I realised it is no more than a false commodity. It only has value because everyone has been told it has value. If a government wanted to say tomorrow, "from now on our form of money will be changed, and the old money will become worthless" it would show just how false a commodity it really is.

Society does not allow us to do without money - it demands it be used for transactions! However, money is not much in itself, especially as several western countries have allowed their money supplies to be created/held/manipulated by PRIVATE companies, owned by individuals!

I find it strange that there are people who live in countries and yet are said to have more money than the country in which they live!

India has its billionaires, yet as a country it seeks aid to feed its people! Russia has several wealthy oligarchs who have made the most of the recent foray into capitalism and between them own more money than the country itself! These are just two countries out of many. How ridiculous!!!

For the past few years I have found myself having less and and less income, and yet prices for everything I need are rising every day.

I actually find it exciting to spot bargains, build a small hoard of food that only a short while ago was a lot cheaper, make my own meals (or rather my husband does it mostly as I do often have problems cutting and preparing food due to a severe medical problem with my wrist), preserving food when it is in bulk, looking for natural foods/supplements in the wild which are free.

All of these things have helped me and my husband survive over the past year, and this has only been possible because we took time to learn how to do these things, and do not expect a great deal out of society.

I no longer have the internet at home - using my computer at work or at the local library. I don't have a television, and having for the past 5 years, because I couldn't afford the UK Television License and found there was so little on the television anyway that it was switched off more than it was switched on.

There have been other things which we have adopted to help us cope with the credit crunch, but we saw the signs long ago and prepared for it. Those who have only woken up to the present situation, or still bury their heads in the sand, will find it a greater struggle to survive.

Yes, the present situation is difficult, and it may be the wake up call we all need to reassess what actually is important in life. I hope so, and that we all benefit from the pain we are clearly going to have to endure before this situation works its way out.

Thank you Fahim for your view on the situation. I have to concur with a lot of it. But then, I have accepted in my own mind that there is a conspiracy against the masses already.

Carol A Noble

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I no longer have the internet at home - using my computer at work or at the local library. I don't have a television, and having for the past 5 years, because I couldn't afford the UK Television License and found there was so little on the television anyway that it was switched off more than it was switched on.

Wait a minute: you mean TV on the UK is not, like, free?

Even here in Mexico we have free national TV. Mainly horse manure, but there are a few gems here and there.

Getting to the main topic: What's really annoying about these economic bailouts these fat cats end up receiving, is that they certainly don't go SHARING the benefits when they are ripping people off; but when the red lights turn, the taxpayers have to step in and assume the debt. How's that for fairness.

Is it sensible to give a loan to such poor businessmen that have been found incapable of keeping their business afloat?

I read that the UK doesn't plan to give any bank a bailout. We'll see.

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In some places, like Germany, you have to pay monthly fees when you own a TV or a radio. This is to finance the government-supported programming.

Germany wanted to expand this to computers that can receive government TV stations over internet, i.e. the computers that are equipped to connect to the internet. Note that these would not be the computers that are connected, but the ones that can be connected. These laws are on the books, I don't know if they are enforces for computers. For TVs they certainly are. Per TV, not per household.

Similarly, the fees for TV and radio are not for what you are watching (or listening to), but for what you could watch.

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Why should I pay for something which already benefits the TV networks, because they sell my eye balls to the advertising companies?

It would only be fair then that you should have LESS commercial breaks, while on the contrary now there are more ads than regular programming.

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Thank you Carol for always giving us some additional things to think about in these discussions. Let me say this, I could have added some more to my article relative to this equation. Thus, just reason with me, most people in the United States believe that the Federal Reserve is a "Federal Agency" and that it is owned and control by the US Government. Lets for a minute accept that as the truth (of course those who are awake and study know that is the furthest thing from the truth). But for a moment accepted this notion as the truth; the US Government is acquiring banking and financial institutions that even after the government bailout they are still functioning on some level. I had a college Professor named Dr. Earlie Thorpe who taught me social science and history. Dr. Thorpe talked extensively about Karl Marx and the concept of socialism. He taught us that Socialism was an economic system where as the majors means of production and distribution was control and owned by the State (or government which translate to mean owned by the majority of the people) and back then the former USSR was considered the model nation for communism (socialism). Now! At least in theory within socialist economic system--the people are supposed to share in the wealth and resources that is acquired and amassed by the State. But check these vipers out, the Federal Reserve (the state) in acquiring private base financial institutions is a form of NATIONALIZATION (the state own and/or taxpayers are the true owners in theory of these acquisitions). But unlike under the socialist government the people have acquired business assets that they receive no dividends or shares from this form of socialism or better yet neo-capitalism. Red Pill you are right this is a sham and the fat cats are laughing at us and still making money. Taxpayers are paying a tab for crooks that have made billions and they did not share those profits with the masses. We should be outraged.

Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL

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It is true that what we have witnessed is a socialization of the risks, but when it comes to the profit, it's back to good ol' "everyone-for-himself" capitalism.

And this is from the government who rejects the idea of a socialist health care like the plague! :-/

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RPJ, In the UK, a license fee is payable, at present £139.60 (I think) for being in possession of equipment which can receive tv transmissions. This includes having a special aerial which you attach to a computer, or a VCR, or DVD Recorder - in other words, anything which can help you receive the tv signals has to be paid for.

There are also subscription fees, sometimes monthly, sometimes per programme, where people have to pay EXTRA to the license fee if they want other tv channels. The license fee is payable for only 5 channels, and if you have a special "freeview" box which enables an analogue tv into a digital one, there are some other channels available if desired. These pieces of equipment have all to be paid for in addition to the license fee.

The license fee is supposed to be to pay for the BBC tv channels, as they are not supposed to have advertisements. However, they do have advertisements for their own programmes, and often encourage chat shows, and other programmes to include interviews with authors, etc, so advertising the new books.

Having extra channels does not mean you have more programmes. The BBC is like every other tv company, they continue to play repeats and more repeats, regardless of the channels. What few new programmes to arise are not necessarily worth watching.

We gave up our tv because the set was switched off more than on.

In 2009/10 my region is going over to digital - analogue is slowly being switched off in the UK. Anyone who has an analogue set after that will not be able to receive programmes. Changes are afoot. I am glad I don 't have t worry as I don't want to watch tv anyway.

If there is a programme I have heard about that I would like to see, then if it comes out on dvd (which many are now) then I will buy that and watch it on my computer. The cost for this is very low as there are very few programmes I am interested in enough to buy.

I hope this answers your question, RPJ.

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Fahim

I knew that the Fed Reserve was owned by private individuals. The Bank of England is too. This means that the people of the US and UK, via their political representatives, gave up the management of their money, long ago, and no matter how many "safeguards" are put in place in law, you cannot be sure that your money is safe, or that the services you pay for via your taxes will arise. As it is, in the UK the Bank of England and other financial companies have very close links indeed with the political administration of the country. No ordinary individual has this sort of contact. This means the financial sector and other companies can lobby the government, and find ways of pressurising the politicians into thinking their way, whilst the ordinary person has difficulty even getting the chance to speak to someone in authority.

If I contact my MP, he will contact the so-called relevant person in the government about my query, they will often then pass it on to another person, and the response will usually tell you no more than you knew already. I know, I have tried this several times with limited result.

Technically it is possible to write to any MP in the house about a problem, but as Edwina Currie demonstrated in her book, A Parliamentary Affair, if the MP received a letter from someone who is not a constituent they usually throw them in the bin unopened as they have too much work to deal with otherwise. A farce, but I believe it does happen as many times people have written directly to other politicians who were not their MP and failed to even get a reply!

Once anyone gives over their money to another body, they lose control over it.

So many times the ordinary people are forced to have their income paid through the bank into a bank account. It is sometimes impossible not to do this as the odds have been stacked against you if you don't accept this situation. By society forcing this attitude and situation on us all, we are being coerced to handing over the control of our money to others. I am waiting for the truly cashless society. It will come, and the safety of our money will be even less sure than it is now.

Carol A Noble

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RPJ

You say that the UK government won't bail out a British bank. You are wrong. We have already bailed out a British Bank - Northern Rock - a year ago. The signs were there then, and should have been heeded by all.

Carol A Noble

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I don't know whether you have heard of George Green, but he is a former investment banker (Registered Financial Principal with the N.A.S.D.) and a Broker/Dealer, Securities Underwriter, Real Estate Developer, Insurance
Broker and Publisher, who was invited to become a member of the 'Power Elite. However, faced with a moral and ethical dilemma, he turned his back on his former associates and chose to walk an entirely different path
in which he has tried to warn the world of the Power
Elite's plans for the future. Anyway, my attention was drawn to a recorded telephone conversation, on July 16th 2008, between George Green and an as yet
unidentified web interviewer from the 'Conscious News Network. Please Check this Link and interview. This is some heavy stuff. No. We are not insane, in fact, we are on top of it. http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/new...

Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL

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That's what I get for believing in newspapers ;-)

I read that some British politician or Economy minister said they didn't intend to bailout any bank. Maybe he meant "this year", eh?

Obviously, I didn't believe they would keep their word.

Incidentally, this whole "bailout" thingy? We experienced it in 1996 here in Mexico. I don't know, maybe it was for the better, because 12 years afterwards we're still here and afloat (barely); but I hate it that no white-shirt felon that was on the Banks boards spent a single day in prison, or at least in a shelter after they had to sell everything they owned.

No, they're still here and in charge of everything.

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Red Pill,

The British bailed out a Bank today.

What do you think?

cnnek

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RPJ

This was the second bank that the UK has bailed out!

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Carol,

When did they bail out the first bank! Thank-you for the update.

What do you think?

cnnek

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People forget that Northern Rock was the first sign on the global stage of a bank failing! The fact this happened last year and not this does not take away the fact that the economic signs of a serious downturn were already in place.

Many people still think of Northern Rock as a building society. But Northern Rock was no longer a bulding society but a bank at the time of its bail out last year. Billions have gone into saving that bank/busines and billions more are going into saving B & B, which had also been a building society originally, but when we, the ordinary people, require just a few million to pay for drugs that could keep the general populace alive, suddenly the country , and the NHS, is broke!

The government said it would not bail out any other banks after Northern Rock but it has, and if another goes it will bail that out too.

I am very surprised that Barclays is after buying part of the Lehman Group, because just before Northern Rock was publicly said to be economically unviable forcing the government to step in, Barclays had gone to the Bank of England for a loan, privately (secretly?) Where do they suddenly find the money to buy up part of the Lehman Group? Could it be that the goalposts have been moved yet again, as with the Enron disaster, and companies that looked like they were in serious debt suddenly appeared to be in the black!!!

Something still isn't right about this whole economic situation, and there will be more shocks to come, this is just a quiet respite so that people can take a breath before the next blow comes!

Carol A Noble

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Politicians not keeping their promises. Where is this world coming to?? ;-)

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