Green fireballs
Posted by epgrondine at 19:44, 11 Dec 2010While it's not another dolphin sex story, I thought you all might be interested in this piece:
http://cosmictusk.com/unclassified-dr-ed...
The original link is down, so I don't know how this release came about. It would be nice to subtract the ditch digger from the tape and have a full transcript.
PS - We now know that meteors produce electrophorenic sound during their passage through the atmosphere - their electrical field sets off human auditory nerves. We also know that the green fireballs are physics phenomenon involving oxygen reactions, as you can read in Bob Kobres's earlier piece at the Tusk.
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12 April 2007
2 min 21 sec
I've read of La Paz in Richard Dolan's UFOs and the National Security State. From what I've read in those books, it suggests La Paz was not opposed to the idea that the green fireballs and other phenomena he was sent to investigate had a non-human intelligent origin.
Fireballs that can hover? change directions? cause electromagnetic interferences? and have a penchant to appear where the most powerful nation in the world conducts nuclear experiments? That's some meteor ;)
It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!
Red Pill Junkie
23 October 2006
7 hours 15 min
Fireballs that can hover? change directions? cause electromagnetic interferences? and have a penchant to appear where the most powerful nation in the world conducts nuclear experiments? That's some meteor ;)
Yes. The green ball lightening is a product of a meteor, not the meteor. Read Bob Kobres' piece on them at the Tusk for an introduction to the physics involved.
I'd like to know where this tape came from.
As far as ET goes, my position is that if Bigelow wants to pick up the tab, there's some libraries we could visit. His dime though, not mine.
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas
12 April 2007
2 min 21 sec
Well, that's an interesting hypothesis. But from what I read in that rather boring and lengthy conference recap, these men --members of the top brass, and very important scientist-- were very worried about this phenomenon having such a great... interest... in the Los Alamos probing grounds area.
It seems that at the end Teller was beginning to be convinced that the phenomenon was "an electron phenomenon"; that would be --in his mind-- the only way to explain the horizontal trajectories, the unusual coloring, and the absence of noise (sonic booms etc). I guess back in those days the concepts of ionized plasma wasn't still widely used in scientific lore.
I don't think Bigelow would be much interested in that. Firstly, because that short statement immediately gave away your biased opinion on the phenomenon --who said anything about extraterrestrials?-- and secondly, why would Bigelow waste any time and resources scavenging for information in libraries, when he has his own testing facility in the famous Skinwalker Ranch? last I heard, Jacques Vallee went there as a consultant; unfortunately, he was made to sign a non-disclosure agreement as all the scientist who get invited to Bigelow's playground :)
PS: A friend of mine, Micah Hanks, has investigated the unusual lights seen in Brown Mountain, North Carolina.
VIDEO
He's a pretty skeptic guy, and so his conclusions is that this is some sort of natural phenomenon. Nevertheless, there are the tantalizing possibilities that these phenomena are capable of inducing audiovisual hallucinations by tampering with the witness' temporal lobe --and maybe... just maybe... these balls of plasma are capable of some sort of sentience.
It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!
Red Pill Junkie
23 October 2006
7 hours 15 min
Well, that's an interesting hypothesis. But from what I read in that rather boring and lengthy conference recap, these men --members of the top brass, and very important scientist-- were very worried about this phenomenon having such a great... interest... in the Los Alamos probing grounds area.
Hi RPJ -
But did you read Bob Kobres' piece at the Tusk as well?
I don't think Bigelow would be much interested in that. Firstly, because that short statement immediately gave away your biased opinion on the phenomenon --who said anything about extraterrestrials?-- and secondly, why would Bigelow waste any time and resources scavenging for information in libraries,
First off, bias: If I knew, then I wouldn't be interested in taking a look. For that matter, I'd charge about $200 per hour for the search if I knew.
Second, neither you, Bigelow, nor Vallee have the faintest idea which libraries and collections to check. I hope you don't find this too insulting, but otherwise you wouldn't make such a really stupid statement.
PS: A friend of mine, Micah Hanks, has investigated the unusual lights seen in Brown Mountain, North Carolina.
VIDEO
He's a pretty skeptic guy, and so his conclusions is that this is some sort of natural phenomenon. Nevertheless, there are the tantalizing possibilities that these phenomena are capable of inducing audiovisual hallucinations by tampering with the witness' temporal lobe --and maybe... just maybe... these balls of plasma are capable of some sort of sentience.
Most likely generated by a piezo-electric effect from local minerals. As to EMF-brain interaction, that's demonstrated by electrophorenic sound.
I doubt if the plasma has any intelligence.
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas
12 April 2007
2 min 21 sec
I wasn't able to find the link on the page.
I see you haven't lost your touch ;)
Well, Vallee has just co-wrote a book with a young English historian named Chris Aubeck. It seems all the research was made peering through online libraries. So I reckon that as far as those two gentlemen goes, they can find the info they are looking for in a library.
But, my original point is that Bigelow seems to be more interested into conducting actual observations —and possibly experimentation— rather than academic paper-trail. Which is fine by me because I'm kind of tired of people in the UFO business thinking that the smoking gun of the alien conspiracy is to be found in some dusty Pentagon file-drawer. That's NOT UFO investigations; that's report investigation.
PS:
Why? did you bother to read Kat's first news link today?
It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!
Red Pill Junkie
23 October 2006
7 hours 15 min
I wasn't able to find the link on the page.
At the bottom of that page there is link to earlier pages. Bob's piece was what led to the posting of the LaPaz et al material.
I see you haven't lost your touch ;)
Luckily for you I have, or I wouldn't be here now.
Well, Vallee has just co-wrote a book with a young English historian named Chris Aubeck. It seems all the research was made peering through online libraries. So I reckon that as far as those two gentlemen goes, they can find the info they are looking for in a library.
Pretty much proof of my earlier assertion.
But, my original point is that Bigelow seems to be more interested into conducting actual observations —and possibly experimentation— rather than academic paper-trail. Which is fine by me because I'm kind of tired of people in the UFO business thinking that the smoking gun of the alien conspiracy is to be found in some dusty Pentagon file-drawer. That's NOT UFO investigations; that's report investigation.
Trying to predict the next UFO, eh? Many years ago I wrote a treatment for an comedy/adventure tv show on that which is WGA registered.
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas
12 April 2007
2 min 21 sec
Sorry, I stillc can't find it. And doing a search with this guy's name wasn't of much help either.
Again, no one said anything about "predicting" UFOs, but since the Skinwalker ranch in Utah seems to be such a hotspot for weird phenomena, having a team ready at the site at all times doesn't sound like such a senseless pursuit. In any case, I'm just speculating here —who knows what they actually do there.
It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!
Red Pill Junkie
23 October 2006
7 hours 15 min
Sorry, I still can't find it. And doing a search with this guy's name wasn't of much help either.
Here, I hope:
http://cosmictusk.com/kobres-the-case-of...
If correct, this has important implications for controlled fusion energy generation.
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas
12 April 2007
2 min 21 sec
Thanks for the link. Giving it a *very* quick glance (for the moment) it seems your friend is explaining the radioactivity found in the Tunguska event as a sign of a nuclear fusion reaction, produced by a similar phenomenon to ball lightning, caused by some sort of onion-like carbon spheres. Very interesting.
...Although it could also be sign of an alien spaceship powered by a fusion reactor —but we can't go that far in our speculations, can we? :-P
It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!
Red Pill Junkie
1 May 2004
11 weeks 4 days
I have seen a green fireball and a red fire ball. Never seen or heard a meteor anywhere near these things.
Because they are large and move horizontal and slowly, these things look very strange. The green one I saw was between my view point and a large hill so I could guess the size well, it was about 3 times the size of a car.
The red one didn't have anything I could guage the size from. But I could see clearly the flames licking about so I was not that far from it. It too was moving horizontal and slowly. It's this slow movement that gives them an eerie look.
Both times I saw these it was perfectly clear days.
"Life can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you do what your told."
LRF.
23 October 2006
7 hours 15 min
But I did see a green meteor once. It scared the shit out of me for a few seconds - as meteors are usually white, I thought it was the re-entry of a warhead from an accidental launch.
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas