I found Atlantis

Well no, not really. But I found yet another place to look, and it's nice and difficult to look there. So maybe someone can get a book deal out of it: Atlantis is located about 1600 or 1700 nautical miles distant from Egypt, straight down. This distance is not too far out of whack with the original report, maybe the direction is. The timing of its sinking will have to be moved backwards by a few hundred million years, but we can do this by just moving the decimal point a little (nevermind that Plato didn't use one).


Where this comes from is
geophysics.
Seismic studies have found various parts of old continents (additonal links at the bottom of that article, some in english), sunken to the bottom of the earth's mantle. One of these is directly below the Med, this is the one I picked for Atlantis. Not sure when it sank, at least 500 million years ago.


What's new about these studies are mathematical (computer simulation) models of the convection in the mantle, caused by reactions of these sunken continents with the earth's outer core. Interesting consequences are that bits of the old continents get flushed upwards again, and come out to the surface in some magma, e.g. in Hawaii.


Also quite interesting is that the current continents are apparently (maybe?) only floating because of this convection, otherwise they would sink and we would have more than a few inches of sea level rise to worry about.


So that leaves stuff like, how would Plato know this? Of course he didn't, but we need to have a reason why he would. Without resorting to time travel and such, perhaps he was aware of theories of continental drift and subduction. Or he just made something up.


You know, this system really doesn't like long links as anchors, I always get these ugly line breaks. But if I literally post the whole link, the formatting breaks worse because of long unbreakable lines.

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mrsparky's picture
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has anyone considered the possibility that atlantis was not so much a place as it was a time?

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Well done!

That's what I call thinking.
Which time do you think it would have been?

shadows

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Half past Tuesday.

Regards, C

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well to tell you the truth shadow, im not really sure, i'll have to do more research on that.

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Earthling, I commend you on your search for the True theory of the universe -- for that is what you are heading towards with your theory. You may be unaware that your theory coincides with Michael Moyer's theory for the "standard model" of the universe. His theory integrates string and brane theories in one package. In his scenario, there are two extra dimensions, both of them small and straight and finite, which lead us to a parallel universe -- which is where your Atlantis may be.

Moyer says, "Hear me out on this one. Remember how string theory required us to live in a 10-dimensional universe? Well, imagine that instead of living in a four- dimensional space (three plus one of time) and having the extra six dimensions curled up into balls so small we have no hope of ever directly observing them, there are two four-dimensional spaces: ours and a different one hanging out not too far away from ours. A two-dimensional surface connects these two branes (remember, a brane is the thing we are trapped on), which gives you 4 + 4 + 2 = 10 dimensions. This implies that there is another, mirror brane located as little as a millimeter or so away from us at all times, but which we can never reach, because we are not gravitons. This is the sort of thing that the string theorists come up with and think not "how manifestly ridiculous," but -- and I'm paraphrasing here -- "wicked awesome!" It does make the math work, however, even if it breaks our brains.

Your theory also coincides nicely with the holographic view of the universe. In Paris in 1982, a research team led by physicist Alain Aspect was able to verify the theory that particles which have previously interacted with one another will, from that interaction forward, be connected with regard to the phase of their waveforms. What was particularly of interest about this confirmation was that the exchange of information between these particles occurred at a speed greater than the speed of light. This has led to the theory, espoused by University of London physicist David Bohm, among others, that the universe is in fact a massive and intricate hologram.
A hologram is an image created by reflecting a laser off of an object, and subjecting the reflected light to the light of a second laser. The resulting interference pattern is then captured. This results in a three-dimensional image of the original object. What is most noteworthy is that if a fragment of the image is torn off of the whole, that fragment will still contain a smaller but intact version of the original image. No intelligence is lost in the fragmentation.
Those who espouse the holographic paradigm have suggested that the contact between particles so observed is not due to a signal sent between them, but is due to the fact that it is only our inaccurate perception which interprets the particles as separate, discrete entities. In this theoretical system, such particles are considered to be manifestations of the same underlying fundamental phenomenon. Extracted to its conclusion, the theory suggests that all objects in the universe are infinitely interconnected.

As Michael Talbot states in his article on this paradigm, “In a holographic universe there are no limits to the extent to which we can alter the fabric of reality.”

And since we can all agree that there is significant altering the fabric of reality going on in the world today, I offer this question for consideration as you develop your theory: how do the 12 major star gates on this planet relate to Atlantis -- wherever it may be? The star gates, and recent activity at those locations which could cause inquiring minds endless speculation, are listed below.

1. Halley, South Pole. ELF/VLF and magnetic data from two manned and two unmanned Antarctic observatories for two yearlong intervals (1993 and 1995) reported unusual properties -- higher occurrence rates of Quasi Periodic (QP) drifts in the bands. Periodicities in the ELF/VLF data are usually seen in two bands: 10-100 mHz (Quasi Periodic) and 200-300 mHz (periodic). Scientists who observed these phenomena propose that type II QPs could be driven by PEs through the field-aligned currents produced by whistler wave induced electron precipitation. Our type I events without PEs are consistent with the model of such events being driven by upstream waves which cause compressional fast mode waves to propagate inwards from the magnetopause; they probably occur on closed field lines near the magnetopause. For those events which occur with both magnetic pulsations and PEs, we may surmise that they are classic type I and that the PEs occur fortuitously and are not connected. Alternatively there is the intriguing possibility that the pulsations may actually be linked to the whistler ducts in some way not yet understood. Dramatic signal dropouts and recoveries, on a time scale of minutes, are unexplained; a speculation is that they may be related to holes in the resonant particle flux.

2. Sarasota, Florida. 2004 hurricane season, with 145mph winds, was the worst in recorded history.

3. Bermuda. Ranked #7 out of 50 sites most often hit by hurricanes or tropical storms.

4. Cairo-Giza Egypt. Why is a wall really being built around the Great Pyramid?

5. Machu-Picchu, Peru. Controversy surrounds the Peruvian government's plans to build a high-tech cable car up to Machu Picchu in order to quadruple the numbers of tourists and foreign revenues. Two major religions influence this area: the Order of St Augustine in the region continued up until the 19th century, and Hiram Bingham, an American Mason, found Machu Picchu in 1911.

6. Near Moscow, Russia. "Stonehenge-like" structures found in the region, and other Pravda-like news items easy to dismiss because of the Pravda source.

7. Lake Titicaca, Peru. Sacred to Aymará Indians even before Incas.

8. Xian, China. Famous for the Terracotta Warriors and its ancient City Wall.

9. Bam tso, a lake near Heiho, Tibet. Tibet -- need I say more?

10. Abadan, Iran. A manufactured war next door allows indiscriminant destruction as a guise for exploration/development of diamond mines, star gates, other archeological sites.

11. Vale of Pewsey, S. England. Near crop circles, Stonehenge, West Kennet Long Barrow, etc. Despite its undertakings to protect the Stonehenge world heritage site, the British National Trust is having little success in getting the government to abandon its scheme to surround Stonehenge in a stranglehold of traffic. The trust had believed a road tunnel to carry the traffic away from the monument was close. "Instead it has been relegated to a regional traffic scheme." What would that tunnel have revealed?

12. Monsegur, S. France. Again, need I say more?

“The system of the Universe as a whole is such that quite small errors in the initial conditions can have an overwhelming effect at a later time. The displacement of a single electron by a billionth of a centimeter at one moment might make the difference between a man being killed by an avalanche a year later, or escaping” Alan Turing, mathematician.

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Perhaps you read too much into my post. I was merely trying to point out that there are indeed sunken continents, and we have a good idea where some of them are. They sank below more than just water. Of course it doesn't fit the Atlantis story at all, the timing is wrong, and probably more than that.

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I believe Anon may have been replying to Mrsparky with his response, but it was a very interesting response nevertheless-- especially considering I am currently in the middle of reading Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot and I am a firm believer in both the synchronicity of events and the interconnectedness of everything. Thank you Anon.

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Yeah, anyway, is there any chance that things happen by chance? I don't believe so.

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Hi Earthling,

I still think Atlantis is a tall tale told to some gullible Greeks by some Egyptian Priests one Sunday afternoon when the Priests had been chewing on too much Shem at the end of a three day 'Shem crawl'. They're is probably roars of laughter still echoing in the afterlife.

AAiek

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AAiek, im not sure about that. conduct some reseach into the bermuda triangle and find out why the stuff that happens there happens. I'll give you a hint, its got something to do with a pyramid.

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Can you give me some hints?
AAiek

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The Atlanteans themselves, who inscribed the knowledge on imperishable tablets of precious stone. Thus the legends of the tablet of Hermes Trismegestus...

The US Govt. found one of these tablets when it crashed to earth from safekeeping in orbit at Rosewell, NM. Since then, they have been constructing Atlantean UFO's which have a real purpose of travelling beneath the earth which is why people keep seeing them coming up from below ground near Edinburgh airport and Leuchars airbase in Scotland...oh, and right at the point on Edinburgh approach where the jets normally turn on their landing lights - Bonnybridge - where they are exiting from old mineworkings.

Easy really. :-)

Regards, C

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>>You know, this system really doesn't like long links as anchors, I always get these ugly line breaks. But if I literally post the whole link, the formatting breaks worse because of long unbreakable lines.

I don't know what you mean by 'anchors', and I'm not exactly sure what 'ugly line breaks' or 'whole link(s)' are either, but with my penchant for going where angels fear to tread, I'm wading in here anyway...

You could do it like this, which is essentially how we do all the news articles:
"Seismic studies have found various parts of old continents."

You can even make the link just one word - or even one letter - out of the article's full title, which you can enclose in quotes, if you're a stickler for proper form. That way the words in the title will break in - err - an aesthetically pleasing way.

And as long as I'm wading around without angels here, I just gotta ask... Is personal aesthetic preference the reason you put two spaces between paragraphs, or is there some other reason? I'm not complaining, mind. I'd much rather everyone put two spaces between than not put any paragraph brakes at all!

Kat

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What I do is put html tags in the text to make the links. The "a" tags are called anchors. If the href="www.foo.bar/this/that/theother/" is very long, I get extra line breaks. Probably because the thing that does auto line breaks doesn't know that the link will just be one word in the text.


The extra line space seems to come from the "br" tag that I put between paragraphs. I tried the "p" tag, but the space gets even bigger. That's not normal html rendering either, it's a case of the tools guessing what the user wants to do, and getting it wrong :-)

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I don't know anything you can do about the long anchors, but I have a solution for the 'br' and 'p' problem -- don't use them. Just hit 'Enter' twice before beginning your new paragraph.

Kat

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That's what i get for trying to do things right :-P

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every piece of earth in Earth was one, and there was a center ,atlantis,that ruled everything, all worked for the center,unified.
and a disaster took place and divided the earth in many continents.
Maybe.......

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Some things we just know. What you have proposed is one of them.

Two spaces between paragraphs later, I find myself musing that no one chose to comment on the star gates. Interesting, yet understandable.

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Hi Anon,

I think it's the lack of transition that has me confused. You were talking about physicists' theory of a holographic universe, and then suddenly, without explanation, evidence, or references, you launched straight into a declaration that there are 12 star gates, and this is their locations.

Someone might comment if you explain little things like what a star gate is, and who has theorized, researched, and/or written about them.

Kat

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To what has you musing Anon, all I could say is that Atlantis is of the past and only has historical relevance insofar that we need to feel the 'roots' of the fabric of our consciousness.

In the end, what the Atlantis era was useful for it has lived through its usefulness and there will be no going back.

Attlanteans were totally possessed with their Astral Body and projected consciousness paradigm as we are today with our Indo-European consciousness based on intellect striving from memory analysis and intellectual repertoriation and extrapolation.

This current scheme of things requires people to be reassured by proof so you will not be taken seriously. On the other hand, what was relevant to a civilization that has passed the time of its usefulness is not relevant to the future of humanity, even though every man that will go through the next initiation will have to become consciously aware of his Attlantean experience.

Taken from that perspective, it might not be so much ancient Star Gates or ancient whatever that is important for the future man rather than the repossession of his mental territory to finally put an end to his enslavement to a karmic spiral that was initiated with the Adamic race.