The Israel Lobby And U.S. Foreign Policy
Posted by cnnek at 13:54, 02 Sep 2010How much influence does Israel really have over U.S. Foreigh Policy?
Israel has much too much influence over U.S. foreign policy!
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22 November 2004
2 weeks 14 hours
Also worrying is the Chinese influence on US policies. And the Russian influence on French and German policies.
Then you have the Chinese influence on North Korean policies. And Russian influence in Iran.
Those are just examples of the big players. There is much cross-influence among smaller players. A lot of is in indirect, through foreign owned companies. And no, these companies are not mostly US based.
You can make the point that some states are to a large extent tools of major companies. Russian politics is heavily influenced by Gazprom. Historically, Canada was the Hudson's Bay Company, India was the British East India Company, and the Dutch East India Company was Indonesia.
Then there are global political movements. International Socialism has detrimental influence on the independence and well-being of many countries. The environmental movement has international influence, which often runs counter to interest of countries.
And I'm leaving out the religions and sects.
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28 June 2006
2 days 10 hours
Earthling,
In proportion to its relative size and relative importance, Israel has too much influence over U.S. Policy. It's strong influence over the U.S. media is one reason for its strong influence on U.S. Policies. No country deserves unqualified support for its policies and that includes Israel. But, the U.S. has given Israel unqualified support for its policies for 62 years.
What do you think?
cnnek
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22 November 2004
2 weeks 14 hours
Judging whether the influence of country A in the decision making of country B is too much depends on your point of view.
Since you largely disagree with the goals of Israel, it is not surprising that you would say any amount of influence is too much. In other words, you are biased from your personal point of view.
There are many examples of country X making decisions that are in the interest of country Y, or organization Z. Whether this is good or bad, or indifferent, depends on many factors.
Historically, in the relatively short time that Israel has existed, the US has forced it to do things that Israel didn't want to do. The influence taking is not one-way.
Also it really is, for the most part, between the USA and Israel. Since you are for the most part an outsider to this issue, you can't really expect them to adjust to your desires.
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28 June 2006
2 days 10 hours
Earthling,
With their Pro-Israel Middle East Policy, the U.S. is making the world an exponentially more dangerous place to live and that is a crime against humanity!
What do you think?
cnnek
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22 November 2004
2 weeks 14 hours
1 - you are mistaken
- what do you mean by "exponentially", other than "a lot" ?
- more dangerous compared to what?
2 - Farrakhan doesn't have the right or authority to say who should live where
3 - neither do you
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18 September 2007
5 hours 28 min
When you consider that the 911 false flag was a joint operation carried out by the Likudist network and our own military industrial network the influence of Israel is appalling. They are technically an "enemy" in every sense of the word. Of course, saying "Israel" here is misleading. It is more accurate to describe the cabal as a group of Zionists who rally around the "Greater Israel" project. That is not necessarily "Israel" any more than the neocon network is "America."
The Kay Griggs interviews on Youtube give us a look into the very ugly heart of the military mafia that has taken over US foreign policy. I highly recommend them. Griggs was married to a well known Colonel in charge of dirty tricks and assassinations. Here is just a little taste:
28 June 2006
2 days 10 hours
Earthling,
The Israeli Ashkenazi Zionist Jews don't have the right to say where people should live and neither does the U.S. or you!
What do you think?
cnnek
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22 November 2004
2 weeks 14 hours
The people who live in any particular place do have some say over who can live there. This would mean that the Israelies have more say about who lives in Israel than you or me, or Farrakhan.
Of course people who were forcibly moved out, like most of the Palestinians, several million German and Polish refugees and so on, have some say in the matter as well.
The folks who spread hate and racism are not the ones I typically give much credit to.
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28 June 2006
2 days 10 hours
Earthling,
The "This land is mine. God gave this land to me." sh!t is Bull Sh!t. Premeditated military agression and occupation and colonization are morally indefensiveable violations of international law and human rights.
What do you think?
cnnek
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