Human Activity and Global Warming

Hi, back from 3 weeks in Alaska. It is vast and beautiful and much more then any travel show can give it credit. I have become fasinated by Capt. James Cook while up there and am reading up my on his voyages. Hopefully I will be able to put together a slide show of our travel very soon. We went from Anchorage, Seward, Denali, Fairbanks, through the Yukon Territory of Canada, to Skagway where we cruised on the Alaskan Marine Highway to Juneau, Sitka, and Ketichacan. We were on planes, trains, cars, and boats of every shape and size. I would encourage everyone to avoid the large cruise ships. All they do is polish you butt and make it bigger. Nor in many cases do they truly add much to the local economy. Thats from talking to and listening to locals.

The other thing I wish to mention is that for the most part. The natives and locals believe that our earth is changing. They have seen how the influx of people has changed their land, from the interior to the coast. Also in the last 10 years many areas have had much different weather. Some of which they can immediantely pinpoint as increased wind and heat, because of logging in the interior. More snow because of water temp. increase, and rising bacteria in coastal waters because of temp. increases again.

I see in reading resent posting many people are resistant and suspicious to the many signs around us. But our planet is special, because it is the only one we have. Our atmosphere is very thin, like varnish, laquered to the globe. Many of the chemical and pollutants we use will not break down in our life time or that of our children's, children. the oceans are changing, with increases in temp. and changes in salinity and acidity. These changes are happening very fast, in the scale of time, in our lifetime. One of the reasons Alaska still has salmon is that is has no Dams. And the very first legislation passed and signed into law when Alaska became a state was banning certain types of fishing that hurt salmon runs.

Yes our planet is in consent change. What we see now is only a moment in the history of this planet and the history of people. But we don't have to act in ignorance and instinct. We can change, we can live and nurture the humane race without using up the earth's resources. After seeing so much life and beauty. I wish to listen to it, and do what is tells me is right for it.

If you believe Global Warming is a hoax or religion, fine. But look at where you live and leave it better then you found it. I believe anything else is selfish and wrong. That is what I have seen and that is what I believe.

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earthling's picture
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Indeed we should leave things better than we found them, not just in Alaska. Wherever and whenever we can do that.

My point is that we need to be informed about what we are doing, and what the consequences are. Not indoctrinated, but informed.

Perhaps this is hopeless, that I am asking people to think and analyze, as opposed to follow the currently most popular leader. Or the currently most popular speaker. Or the currently most popular rock star.

But we have to think, not follow.

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The data on the change has been out there for a long time. In the 70s we knew there was a change we just were not sure of the direction, wether we were seeing the end of an inter glacial or something else. Some things take so long the no one notices the small changes until its to late. We live in an age when good science and environmental policy, seem to take on a political colouration, when it effects economic intrests. These intrests just do not what to hear this and so when its to late, to bad for the rest of us. An old story, sadly it maybe our undoing.
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earthling's picture
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Really, you are not saying anything with many words.

What do you want ?

Say it.

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Forgive the partially form thought; what I wanted to say was a basic agreement with your observations, I guess thats what happens when your writing two things at once, I lost the thread of what I was writing to you. The USGS had a remarkable series of photos the show what you observed, at various locations separated in time by many decades, showing the stark changes, the stuff from the 70's was an out growth of modeling for the effects of nuclear winter, its when climate modeling really began to take off (granted that many of the computer systems were not as powerful as an old 486 machine). Next time I'll engage brain before writing.
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earthling's picture
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Nothing wrong with seeing some evidence in pictures and in personal experience.

I am just looking for the actual climate data and models, on the off chance that I can understand them :)

I say let's all look for that, in addition to what else we do to save the planet.

Personally, I think me looking for the evidence may help more than me going to a concert where Al Gore does not sing.

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I don't think singing will save the planet. But as a public awareness campaign it may have had an impact, on a younger audience that gets a large amount of info from the TV God. One segment I watched was about bottled water. Bottled water is a big energy user. It costs a lot of money and resources. Where as most people who buy bottled water in the US have perfectly good water coming out of the tap. And you can use one "cool looking" containers to use over and over again. Or buy a water filter for your tap if you have concerns about, or don't care for the taste. When I do something for the environment I make sure its also putting money in my pocket, not someone else's. Case in point carbon credits. I worked in the stock options field for 8 years. This does not address the carbon problem, it only generates money for someone. It will only work if the money generated goes into building renewable energy sources. This is not always the case.

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It was a small joke. But it will really help if I do NOT sing. The world s a better place already because of my restraint.

Other people should follow my little example.

In the meantime I look for those climate data.

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this is a link from a site which is doing a project like seti@home. This a good primer for climate studies. http://climateprediction.net/science/ind... and this http://geochange.er.usgs.gov/ or this http://stommel.tamu.edu/~baum/climatolog...
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Hello BLaderunner!

You sound like you had a wonderful trip, I remember you speaking about leaving and your excitement, that is great. I hope you did not get wide butt as you claim others might. Keep healthy as you can! I would like to see your photos if you get them posted soem where.

Here our summers are all haze mostly. Little actual bright sun, mostly gray skies or white outs. Some people call it chemtrails and go on about how we are getting killed by conspiracy minded corporations and politicians. I am not sure about that, but, I am sure the weather is bad. I do see the trails from the planes every where.

TOday, just now, we had a tornado thing. The wind whipped up real fast, real suddenly, rain came crashing at a severe angle while huge oak trees were bending. I got scared when all of the doors in my house slammed and my solarium was rocking. Leaves were twirling in cirlces and limbs flying about, I watched through my window with my kitty, I was sacred, I didn't know it was going to happen, there was no fore warning by the tale of the sky -- just a big crash of lightneing and poof, wicked wind of the west grade furies.

This summer we have had actually little rain and are in a drought, we have just haze. I have been tending my new flowers for safe haven for all who need them.I am happy to say as of the past few days I have seen honey bees and many butterflies of all different species and colour. Two were in a pair of a light pastel purple color, I had never seen that species before. WHen I walked around the drive and was watering they followed me, I thought they were enjoying the splash, but, when I walked to the labyrinth they followed me too. I enjoyed them and it was like they were happy and saying thank you ( at least that is how I perceived it) as they fluttered about, they stayed with me for the whole period of me gardening, it was nice.

My water comes from a well, I do not drink city water, but, I would never buy bottled water unless I was in soem other country. Most bottled water is not the quality they suggest it to be, and there is no way I can afford over a dollar for a small plastic bottle of water. I feel it is a big commercial hype. I saw this fellow at the grocey store the other day, he had little crates of bottled water, possibly for an office or somehting like that, or may be his house for convenience, it must have cost over 50$. I was thinking about my water from the well. I turn it on and I would have more than he had with in a few minutes and it cost me nothing except the pump and energy I suppose...

In winter I bundle up, I do not use propane hardly, and just electric a bit where my computer is so my hands do not get numb. At night I have a ltitle elctric pad to heat me, and not heat the whole house. I just keep moreso in my bedroom and then open the door to the solarium when that heats up and move the heat ito my home. I go with out air conditioning even though I have the big unit for my home. I just acclimate myself to the weather as it changes and wear a small amount of clothing during the day.

I have been rescuing my tadpole eggs from my pool and letting them grow too so the treefrogs do not go extinct. I use 5 gallon buckets and transplant them into them, I add water and stir so it will have movement and not get stagnent. Treefrogs are needed to keep the bug population down. This weather has created the perfect temp for grasshoppers and these other huge nasty looking black ass beetles and Japanese beetles that eat plants. It is a horror to one day have beautiful tomatoe plants flowering and the next day they are half gone and you see the beetles chomping away. SLugs too are beginning to become a pest and eating plants and not allowing them to flower and go to seed and replant themselves....Things are out of balance.

If we all did little things we could make a difference. I cannot sing anymore though - I think I am croaking now.

Oh, I watched this most beautiful video on birds and the music was really eerie and telling. It was footage of migrating birds up in the air and you could see them fly and keep in foramtion and change with the wind , it was like the birds all together were one moving entity. I will try to find the link, I happened upon it by an email that was sent to me with some other music videos.

OK, here it is, it starts with the outline of trees that look like black lace and then it changes into birds flying and the music is totally out there for sure...

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseac...

XC

Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
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