Kryptos. Sub Rosa. A code-breaker's fascination for learning unspeakable secrets.

In today's News Briefs: The race to find the secrets of Kryptos, a sculpture inside a courtyard at the CIA's heavily guarded headquarters in Langley, Virginia, may be reaching a climax.

Gary Phillips was one of the code-breakers interviewed in the recent Wall Street Journal and Guardian articles. His web site www.RealmOfTwelve.net goes to great lengths to reveal secrets of the CIA's sculpture Kryptos and Holy Grail anamolies in Leonardo da Vinci's The Last Supper.

What the world doesn't know is that the group of code-breakers barraging the sculpture's ciphers knows that once the supposed final passage of Kryptos is deciphered, the journey to solve its entire puzzle is merely in its infant stage: the puzzle has layers upon layers of secrets that may never be known as only one man, James Sanborn, holds the answers. Dan Brown alludes to the sculpture in his latest The Da Vinci Code dust jacket, tying together the theme of secrets from Kryptos (greek for Hidden), Sub Rosa (in secret), and the Holy Grail.

Neither the CIA nor NSA knows what Kryptos is hiding, and according to its creator, the world may never know.

www.realmoftwelve.net

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Kat's picture
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1 May 2004
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Hi Gary,

I read several of the linked code-breaking pages, and am amazed. With regard to the decoding of the first two kryptos messages, how did code breakers come up with the particular words used to break such a code? Did they write a program to try every word in the English language?

With regard to the third message, the code breaker says he shifted 3 columns -- which wasn't a very clear explanation, as far as I was concerned.

Do you know what other methods have been tried so far for the rest of the code? Has anyone tried a knight's shift, i.e. a 3/2 or 2/3 columnar shift? Has anyone tried reversing the kryptosabc... lettering, and then using 'reverse' (or should that be 'esrever') as the code word? There are so many possibilities, wouldn't it be helpful to everyone's efforts if all the previously unsuccessful methods were available on the web, to prevent duplication of effort?

Has anyone written any theories about the rest of the clues, such as the raised or otherwise out of place letters, the messages on the stone slabs, etc., and how these might fit together with the decoded parts of the kryptos message, or is the spirit of competition too great to allow such cooperation/collaboration?

I read a couple of quotes from Sanborn which seemed to imply that it's the journey rather than the destination that's important, i.e. that even if all the various clues are decoded and correctly pieced together, the 'pot' at the end of this rainbow may contain nothing more significant than intellectual satisfaction and a bit of glory for those who successfully contributed to the decoding. Has he ever said anything that would tend to indicate otherwise?

Kat
p.s. Sorry, life got a bit hectic, so I'm a bit behind on all my email correspondence.

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Kat,

Codebreakers came up with the first set of unknown keywords by frequency analysis. Basically they saw patterns in the code to determine the keyword length. From there, trial and error revealed the plaintext, which ultimately revealed the keywords. The first two passages were encrypted by a cipher called Quagmire III, which uses a pair of keywords. The first keyword was Krytpos in both passages. The third passage was decrypted by columnar transposition. I have my version at the web site.

Many methods are being used to try the fourth passage. Nearly 600 members of the Yahoo! Kryptos group have used hundreds of methods with no significant results.

Several web sites have theories on other clues. We have a lot of information that we've gathered from photographs and first-hand witnesses of the sculpture. Some try to use Sanborn's comments in the press for clues, but I think most of that is disinformation or too abstract to mean anything until after the passage is solved.

I think most people are in it for the fame of cracking what neither the CIA nor NSA has been able to accomplish. Some of us are in it for the journey, and even if we don't solve it... or someone else solves it, it has been worth my time and energy spent. I have made a lot of friends through my web site, and that's what it's all about to me -- community.

gary

"I don't know enough to know that I don't really know."

Sol Aris's picture
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Hi Gary, and very nice to meet you.

I am a researcher of ancient history and mesopotamian religious symbology, and I have stumbled on the Kryptos Riddle totally by "accident", hehehe.

I had recently posted a very lengthy message on both of the main Kryptos Boards, about the Clues which I have, my interest in the matter, and our need for some Serious Brainstorming of Like Minds at this time. Sadly, my message has still not been answered, and probably won't, on those lists. However, they do point to your Highly Interesting Site, for which I wish to thank you dearly at this time. So: Thank you Dearly! hehehe... But I'm not kidding, actually.

I would like to do some Serious Brainstorming at this point, because as you so rightly note: the Kryptos is but a very small part of this Great Puzzle. This Puzzle spans all of our History and Mythology. It goes back into the Mists of Time, and Connects it all with the Present.

One other small thing: I am a researcher of the Royal House of Stewart, and that's my other connection with this matter.

Please, dear unknown friend. Reply to this message and show some interest in this, and I will be glad to spill more, much more.

With deep regards,
Sol

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Sol,

Nice to meet someone with such passion! Like you, I discovered Kryptos by accident, although in hind sight it seems that the circumstances leading up to that discovery were all but coincidence.

I do recall reading your posts at the groups. I generally do not comment about theories there for the simple reason that a day does not contain enough time to fairly respond to every potential breakthrough. I do take many thoughts there into consideration in my own research. Thank you for your kind comments about my web site. I agree that some serious Brainstorming is in order.

I'm reading up on the Royal House of Stewart, which I have heard reference to several times, but have never had the opportunity to pursue further -- until now. I look forward to what you have to say.

gary

"I don't know enough to know that I don't really know."

Sol Aris's picture
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Dear Gary!

Thank you for your prompt reply.

I am reading back in Kat's comment on this thread, about how Sanborn says that it is the Journey which is important here, and the Kryptos itself is but a small part of the Greater Puzzle. It is Indeed So. And it would seem that you understand this only too well, and are therefore prepared to Explore in many different Directions.

Great! So let's do it. And your "signature", by the way, is a very old Confucian Wisdom, from the days of the Great Lao Tse, in case you did not know this. A nice quote, and nothing less is ever expected of a Grail Researcher, actually.

I think that your current Research on the Stewart House would be a Good Starting Place, and Mary Stewart can be a Good Starting Person here. Here's a nice convenient link in this regard: http://www.nwlink.com/~scotlass/mary,.htm
and a nice short summary here:
http://www.hfac.uh.edu/gbrown/philosophe...
(cut and paste into Browser Address Bar if appears on two lines above.)

ONE of the Main Reasons that the Stewart House is connected to the Kryptos Riddle, is the fact that the CIA Headquarters in Langley is situated on land which used to belond to the English Crown, whose Head at the time was still on the Shoulders of King Charles I, grandson of Mary. This land was given to Some People by poor Charles. His own head later formed a nice mantlepiece on Ollie's Connubial Loge.

But all of that is History! I hear you cry. Yes, fortunately it is all in the Past. We live in Kinder, Gentler times now. Therefore, we shall not be giving our Heads to Ollie so quickly this time.

Search on, Intrepid Researchers! For the Search is Drawing to a Close.

Film at Eleven.

Sol