NASCA Square

Especially for Dr. Colette M. Dowell

I glanced at your suggested website and noted your interest in the NASCA phenomenon.

According to my investigations the elohim, the powerful angel gods have the reference number 323 that of 17 x 19 the Serpents of Death. The Alien symbol said to be marked on a crashed UFO stored at Area 51 is of a simple design that shows me the number 323. OK, I don’t usually bother with UFO info only Biblical UFO stuff.

Anyway, according to H. Harleston he feels the principle unit of measurement as used by Teotihuacan people was a length of 1.05946 metres, some 3.47593ft he called the measure a hunab, which in the Aztec language means ‘unified measure’. Which of course you know.

I suggest the Teo unit measure could be more like 3.475 feet in that x 4 is 13.9 feet.

I know little about the Nasca Square but I was sent drawings from someone who knows a lot about the subject.

A Peruvian measurement is the Vara is a meaurement of 0.927 yards, 2.781 feet (whereas the old Spanish vara is 2.782 feet, so I assume the former was of the latter). And the Nasca Square seems to be 63.727 Vara (Peruvian) in width, which is some 177.225 feet or 54.02 metres.

Now 177.225 feet is equivalent to 51 x 3.475 feet, or 51 Teo units, so the NASCA Square could be original ‘Area 51’ - only joking. For 51 is thrice 17 that of the serpent.

In September 2004 the challenge was thrown down to all by Mr Oliver Lawn (once of Bletchley Park, the famous British war time decoding centre) for someone to solve the mystery of the lettering ‘D. M. - O.U.O.S.V.A.V.V.’ carved on the goat Shepherd’s Monument in the gardens of Shugborough House, Staffordshire, England. So I simply converted the letters to numbers and the value of the letters ‘O.U.O.S.V.A.V.V.’ is 1721 and the value of the letters ‘D. M.’ is 44 and 1721 x 1721 x 440 is equivalent to Death at 190 x 190 x 190 x 190.

The Knights Templar reference seems to be the diabolical 1721 by considering their own symbol.

So my take on the NASCA Square is that it could have a metaphysical aspect, because the measurement does this: the elohim Serpent of Death at 170,000 x 19,000 x 170,000 x 19,000 x 19,000 x 19,000 and square root is 6.137000e+13 and /3 and square root twice is 2,126.7121 inches or 177.2260 feet.

Or the Knight’s Templar at 17,210,000 x 17,210,000 x 440 x 170,000 x 170,000 and square root is 6.13700e+13 and /3 and square root twice and /12 inches is 177.2260 feet. So the Shepherd’s Monument is related to the NASCA Square when the Serpent comes into Poussin’s picture.

Thus the NASCA Square is rather curiously related to the elohim, and an elohim statue once stood in the Niche in the Queen’s Chamber at 16.15 feet tall x 2 is 32.3 or 1.7 x 19. The Queen’s Chamber using the wall height is 4,990 cubic feet and made up of an elohim at 3230 + four sets of wings at 440 x 4 is 1,760 and as cubits the four widths of the Great Pyramid’s base.

So I like the idea of the NASCA Square as an all action ‘Area 51’.

John D. Miller

PS
By the way, the Statue of Armed Freedom weighs 14,985 pounds as she stands on the dome of Capitol Hill, Washington D.C. And 666 x 1.5 x 15 is 14,985 pounds and as tons and cubed thrice and square root is 1.3900097e+11 and 13.900097 feet is 4 x 3.475034 feet, and close to the Teo unit at 3.475 feet.

And the Skull and Bone’s reference 611 increased to 6.110000e+22 and squared and /10 and square root and cube root thrice x 2,240 pounds (one ton) is 14,985.0070 pounds. So Armed Freedom is a fearless money grabbing female Pirate. Ugh!

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haplo's picture
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Hi John,

I find your enthusiasm most refreshing. I'm glad you share you're thoughts here my friend. What I'm wondering is where it all goes to for you? You seem to believe that the number correlations are important but you do not offer your thoughts as to why? I'm just wondering if there is some purpose in your journey or if you just revel in the beauty of mathematics as a hobby...

I'm not having a go, i'm just curious mate.

Regards H

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I too see this wonderful connection with numbers. Not to cause a stir it's just fascinating to me. Here are links to a few sites regarding the statue (actually covers information on Lady Liberty too, together they are the twin sisters of victory). http://sc94.ameslab.gov/TOUR/capstat.html
and here http://xroads.virginia.edu/~CAP/LIBERTY/... and a bit more here http://xroads.virginia.edu/~CAP/LIBERTY/... -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.

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http://www.earthmatrix.com/sacred/index.htm
plus this fascinating article
Has the Age of Aquarius Arrived?
Precession of the Equinoxes
by Naomi Bennett

Until recently, the Greek Hipparchus, was given the credit for discovering the procession of the equinoxes. This 25,920 cycle is the foundation for the Age of Pisces which by modern measurement puts each age as 2,160 years long. The procession causes the fixed stars to rise and set against the earth’s solar years so that at the first day of spring, which is the spring equinox, the constellation of Aries no longer rises but the constellation of Pisces does now. In contrast, the Egyptians started their year at the summer solstice when the constellation Orion rose with the sun to mark the beginning of the flooding of the Nile.
With more insightful study of ancient myths and Egyptian temples, texts and myths, it now appears that the Egyptians priests knew and measured the procession back to the old kingdom and there are hints that this knowledge went back to the Age of Gemini which ended somewhere near 6,140 BC.

In 1895, John Lockyer, the British Astronomer Royal, wrote The Dawn of Astronomy where he visited and measured most of the Egyptian temples to prove their alignment to fixed stars and their realignment every 400 years to compensate for the precession. He was highly disregarded in his time but recognized for his original thinking in the 70’s.

Schwaller de Lubicz showed that the Zodiac of Dendera in the Temple of Hathor (around 100 BC) was actually a time clock measurement that marked the procession of the equinoxes from the Age of Pisces back to the Age of Taurus which started in 4380 BC by his calculations. Schwaller estimated the Age of Pisces to begin near 60 BC and the Age of Aquarius to begin at 2100 AD.

Dr. Giorgio de Santillana, historian and author of Hamlet’s Mill, traced all the ancient myths and legends around the world to show they had a foundation in the description of the procession. Jane B. Sellers then extended Santillana’s concept in The Death of the Gods in Ancient Egypt by analyzing Egyptian myth to show the consistent reference to the procession of the stars in their religious beliefs in the Osiris- Horus myths. These myths were the center of their theology, they empowered the pharaohs, and determined their death beliefs and practices.

The Orion Mystery by Robert Bauval (an engineer) and Adrian Gilbert use the procession of the equinoxes to add proof that the Great Pyramid and the King’s Chamber were used to send the dead Pharaoh’s spirit to the Orion constellation. By use of modern astronomy software they calculate the Age of Aquarius to begin approximately 2,070 AD when a half precession cycle of 12,920 shows the Orion constellation at it’s highest declination of -1 degree 50 seconds and it’s maximum altitude at the Meridian at 58 degrees 11 seconds. It’s opposite point at 10,300 BC would have been the beginning of the Age of Leo when Zeta Orionis would have a lowest declination of -48 degrees 53 seconds and an altitude at the meridian of 11 degrees 8 seconds. (Footnote 1)

This last calculation hints that the Egyptians might have considered that the concept of Great Return could begin at the Age of Leo when the stars in Orion are at its lowest declination. Jane Sellers stated that “I am convinced that for ancient man, the numbers 72...2160, 25,920 all signified the concept of the Eternal Return.” Footnote 2. It takes 72 years for the precession to move 1 degree, 2,160 years for one Age, and 25,920 for the entire cycle to repeat.

Robert Hand in the essay, The Age and Constellation of Pisces, uses the date of 221 AD as the date when the topical and sidereal zodiacs where in alignment which was deduced by Fagan and Bradley. From this point he calculates the first star in Pisces to cross the vernal point at 111 BC, which would place the Age of Aquarius to begin near 2,060 AD. Footnote 3.

So, from three very different calculations, we have the Age of Aquarius beginning from 2,060 to 2,100 AD.

Yet, why do I sense that we have already entered the Age of Aquarius? Since the invention of mass production, global use of electricity, the car, phone, television, NASA, invention of technology to shrink the globe with computers, and satellite transmission of voice and data like the Internet. These are all related to Aquarius. Since the advent of psychology with Freud, Jung and Adler, the Church as been displaced as a prime spiritual force for many. This century brought the decline of Church power over most governments. They can only advise and recommend now. This is a decline in the force of Pisces and the Great Religions. Since we are within 1 degree of a new age, are we sliding into the change gradually over a century or two? Is the presence of Uranus and soon Neptune in 1998 into Aquarius a preview to the future or a reaching out to pull the Age more into Now?

These questions are not answerable by absolute fact but by observation. So far, Aquarius hasn’t been the sign of brotherly love but of individual rebels with extreme ideas like the Oklahoma City bombing the first month that Uranus entered Aquarius, the militia, the Unabomber and Rabin’s assassin. Since January of this year, major scientific discoveries have been made. The Universe has quadrupled in size, Jupiter’s atmosphere was too cool, the oldest stars are 6 billions years too old by current theory. Scientific sacred cows are falling and should continue for the next 7 years.

Kepler believed that the great conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn in the sign of Pisces truly noted the full beginning of the Age. But that was before the discovery of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. What are our modern measurements now? Could Uranus and Neptune be adequate significators? Uranus will reenter Aquarius in 2080 just in time for the New Age. Aquarius’s ruler will be in its own sign at entry. Personally, I like this idea best.

Footnote 1. The Orion Mystery , by Robert Bauval and Adrian Gilbert, Mandarin Books, 1995.
Footnote 2. The Death of Gods in Ancient Egypt, Jane B. Sellers, Penquin Books, 1992.
Footnote 3. Essays on Astrology, Robert Hand, Whitford Press, 1982.

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Copyright © 1996 Naomi Bennett. All other publishing rights are reserved by the Author, Naomi Bennett, 3300 Bee Cave Road, Suite 127-650, Austin, Texas 78746 (512) 328-9277 home, fax (512) 328-6957. Naomi Bennett has practiced astrology since 1970 and teaches in Austin. She is currently working on her first book. NaomiBenn@aol.com -----------------------------Truth is stranger than fiction.

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Hello John,

Thank you for sharing all of that, but, I am not inot numbers the way you are. I am more into geometry.....I have fussed with numbers and got very much into the math sides of things, but, as I said moreso geometry....sacred geometry or astronomical studies....

UUUmmmm ....Nasca, yes, well, I have some original books that my friend wrote and who had studied and surveyed the lines for National Geographic and Maria Rieche....He has passed now. He was an astronomer, his name was Gerald Hawkins. Gerald and I also played with number crunching on many subjects....No, I can not say I have ever associated area 51 with the Nasca Lines, although many people like to say the markings on the deserts in Nevada are like those on the SA Platues, but, no they are not....

I suggest you read some literature on the Lines and the original surveys and astronomical findings, stellar alignments , equinox, solstice, solar , lunar, contstellations ,things like that. Pathways to the Gods is a very good book by Tony Morrison along with Gerald and some work of Maria.....Beyond Stonehenge....uuummmm....The Lines of the Andes....also by Tony Morrison and Gerald.....many of these books are out of print however.

I understand your brain perceives the world as a matrix of numbers. I wrote a post for you yesterday addressing this, but I did not post it, I felt that it was very personal and I should not write something like that.

I do understand number crunching and the obsessive disorder behaviour related with it. However, some how my brain got control over it and I am more relaxed about numbers and geometry, although my field was more sacred geometry and hyperdimensional physics.....

Right now my brain is fried trying to fiugre out how to get an audio program on this Frontpage program and get the site rebuilt, but, heck....I can not read the "How to do this text books on directions" or the hlep menu...like who ever writes those do not write them in a way that are comprehensible , at least to me, and the diagrams are usually wrong and for a different part, of are drawn missing some elements...I have just enough brain space to deal with the things I am dealing with right now that are monstrous in responsibilities..I can not spend the time to get involved with numbers and your studies, I just wanted to write you a note the other day as I was interested in the Mona Lisa, as the one I saw was very much smaller then the one you speak of, but, I think that was over all dimensions including the frame. The frame could have been placed on top of the wooden panel. I was also curious as to why you use only one set of mubers as opposed to understanding the vast amount of surveys and numbers that have been documented....thats all...just curiosity on my part......nothing that I need or feel I have to research....I have very umch I have to take care of, I do the best I can as it is...

All I want to do now is understand how I can get the audio file up, make osme little videos on interesting subjects and get my brain together on that. If I try to think of numbers right now, no way Jose....I am in frustration with this Frontpage program and audio....I am obsessing on that right now...freaking out....

I do not do numbers so much right now....I do not do many things I use to do. I am a different person, I am older, wiser and have amnesia...so....

All of what you write, I appreciate, but, I can not focus on it and deal with it. I am sorry. So, there are groups and websites available for people who are like you. I have a friend who is like you, he goes to these sites and they converse in a language of numbers. I am doing the best I can to converse in real english at the moment and not speak backwards or write back wards...

Sorry, I can not help you. Also, I appreciate you trying to have me understand about eht Nasca Lines and all, but , I am educated in a scientific mindset and also open minded to alternative theories, but, I am very disciplined in my process of analyses........

I do not mean to discount what you are involved in, and I am somewhat embarrased to write this. I don't know how I can help you. I have a very curious mind and I ask a lot of questions...I have been like that all of my life. I am seeking as many others to understand "how it all really works and what is out there ....."

I was trying to be supportive to you so you do not feel bad if some one does not comment to your posts as I have read others you have written, and you are upset that no one comments, but you write in a different language, most people will not comprehend the number language you speak in, your mind perceives the world as a mathematical matrix, this can be a gift at the same time be a major disability. I just want to let you know that if people do not post it does not mean you are not a good person , or your thoughts are too strange, you are trying to converse in a different language and maybe people do not understand.

I write posts, I do not get comments.......Most of the time I am posting so people can understand something or I am relaying info I have...sometimes I ask questions, or I just post and article, but, if I do not get a response on a question I do not feel bad. I do not take it personally and threaten people. I think you should maybe consider some of the things you have said in your moments of emotional pain and how you have reacted when people have not been able to comprehend that of which you speak.

So, that is all....nothing really, except, I was just trying to be supportive. I was just curious about your data base and why you do what you do and avoid other numbers, like they may not fit into the scheme of your reality....

Take care, I hope this may explain somethings to you about me and my interests. I like to share information, or when I think of really strange thoughts and I want to share them I do, but I do not get bent out of shape or ever expect anyone to comment or reply.I am on to trying to get this dumb audio program working now. SO, best of luck to you.

Thank you,

Colette

Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
Moving Forward Publications

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Thanks for your lengthy reply.

As I have had some rather strange supernatural experiences I am happy with how things have turned out, but it has taken a long time getting there.

So we are a copy, an earthly pattern of the real thing, but I am in no hurry to see my orignal manifestation!

Sincerely
John D. Miller