Man died from heart attack and came back after 25 minutes

Hi, this happened a while ago, a few months ago in December, I thought of Greg. The man works at WBTV news station in Charlotte, North Carolina. He had a heart attack, died for 25 minutes, they then froze him, (hypothermia) did some medical procedures on him and brougth him back from the dead - from what I understand he is still alive. I wanted to contact the station, but, he worked there and I thought it would be too intrusive at the time, but, some one, maybe Greg would like to email them and ask about it.

WBTV.com is the url and it is a tv news station - it happened in December ( have not stopped thinking about it as it is so wild)....the man worked in a high position at the station, so I am sure that some one there would remember his name and also enough time has passed now that it would not be rude to ask about his condition and possible interview if he were to agree.

Off Topic from dead man - but kid of related- One time , a few years ago I wrote about seeing lights, like fire flies, the ones that the Aborigines ( spelling?) in Austrailia made with their fire when Apollo 13 flew over.....the sparks were supposedly seen flirting about the space craft. The event I had was amazing as they seem to come from within as if I saw them (no they were not floaters in my eyes) and then they came out of me and were swirling all about and then faded. I had never had this happen before that first time. It did happen again the other night. I wonder what those things are? I have never heard of them. I want to find my blog I worte about it on here, so I just go backwards or something? Then post the url of what? Maybe if people can read it, there is more info on it and better explained about what happened to me. I would like to know if any one has any ideas. I guess I will try to find the posting here.

I FOUND IT

http://www.dailygrail.com/node/4504

This is where I talk about the weird lights that came from inside of me through my eyes and then went outside of my body and swirled around - this happened again a bit ago......

(Came back on an edit to post the above)

OK, been a long time since I have posted, but, that has been due to transferring data from computers, updating this and that and we had one bloody cold winter here. Froze my butt off and the climate has been breaking records for lows and then highs and then higest lows and so forth. We were below zero wth wind factor last week and then we went into the high 70s to low 80s in one day. The highs lasted for four days and now we are back to cold but, it is to come back up.

But, life as normal I suppose.
Hope all are well and miss the yak.
I hope to find the post on the fire flies .
Peace and Joy,
Colette

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earthling's picture
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There is a problem with definitions here, and also a problem with what really happens.

A person can be legally dead for many reasons. Such as no heartbeat for a few minutes, or no measurable brain activity for some time.

The fact is, we don't have a good measure of someone being dead or not.

But also, a person can be legally dead just because they are missing for a few months.

Consider Steve Fossett. Some news people have told us they have found some body parts that match his DNA, so most likely he crashed his plane. But on Monday, I saw someone who looked remarkably like him, not much worse for wear. Lost weight in fact.

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it is when you get there.

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Unrelated to the event mentioned by Colette, where the person 'died' in hospital - statistics say that more than 300 people a DAY go missing in Oz. Considering our total population is only 21 million, that's one hell of a lot of people.

No doubt some of these are dead, others have re-invented themselves for one reason or another, some would be run-away kids, and others are crossing State borders and melding into their new backgrounds to escape child support payments.

Fact remains - 300 people a day is a huge amount of missing persons.

Regards, Kathrinn

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hi colette,

The Encyclopedia of Tibetan Symbols and Motifs
By Robert Beer
page 141 is very interesting -talks about prana - energies - death - light like fireflies - heres link

http://books.google.ca/books?id=XlqeS3Wj...

and other book is
"Hands of Light" by Barbara Ann Brennan

heres another link i think you would appreciate

http://www.hayemill.com/index.php?option...

ciao clemente

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Hey,

Thank you for the links, I red them, they were not too far off from my education on Prana, Yoga and Geomancy, but, I was having a hard time trying to find the fire fly bit with the 72 thousand things ( I forget the names already ) - but, I just re-read my original post on the fireflies. I was in the bath and coming out when I started seeing the fireflies and yes I was meditating before and after. The second time this happened, I was in the bath as well, I had been meditating alot lately and most likely that day. I just recently got over a bout with pneumonia ( spelling?) and my energy has been very low. I have been using peppermint, lavender, ylangylang oils inside my nostrils and using oxygen tubes, and sleeping sitting up for over 2 1/2 weeks as my lungs were filled. I found the oils worked very well ( I can not take anti biotics). I was thinking if they altered my mind though as they do - do that.
Well, I just can't figure it out. Those little fireflies could be anything. (NO - not mind control buggers)

Also, on the man who died and came back, I am thinking I wrote 25 minutes, but, I think there was 4 hours and 25 minutes maybe he was considered dead. There is a new procedure where they place the body in a state of hypothermia and do something to the heart and pump in oxygen due to lack of blood flow to the brain ( they explained this procedure and I took notes, but, damn if I can not find them now). In Charlotte NC, they have a facility that does this new technique and a few others have survived as well. Now, I understand the term dead - as in dead.....not coming back type. Also there is brain dead, heart dead, coma type dead and so forth where people are placed on life machines. What ever label they want to place on it; I am curious where the man's mind / spirit went when he left this reality of consciousness. Where did he go in his reality - what was it he experienced? He survived with little brain damage and he after a week seemed to be almost normal in his mental processes as far as they had tested at that point.

I read the posting on the reincarnation and the vote - I voted -all of the above. I just do not think science as it is today is capable of measuring accurately energy and spirit as there is so much variance due to each person being unique in their making ( although we are to be the same, we are not) .....so......I really wanted to contact Greg, I felt he would-be able to write appropriately to this man once he recovered. Everyone at the news station was surprised he did and it was like the "thing" in the news for a week or so. What I thought was weird "they" never brought up about asking where the man's thoughts or feelings were about is death experience.
I am thinking I wrote it wrong, it was more than 25 minutes, but, 25 minutes was in there some where.

To me, even to be pronounced dead for 25 minutes is long enough to have some form of experience ( if you remember - some do not)....I often think of that fellow and want to know what it was like for him. I Just am not confident in my writing right now to write to him and write correctly other wise I would be on it. I have died a few times and come back myself. One time I remember like I was spinning around shooting down a tube and at the end of the tube was a light and during this time of spiraling through this tube I was aware of everything in my life and understood the entirety of the realm of our Universe ( I know grandiose and all, but I did feel that way) ...other times were like dreams (the brain does many things chemically and electrical at times of death depending on the cause of death).

I don't remember much of many things lately. I take notes and meditate and do exercises to regain my mental abilities. AS far as my clairvoyant abilities, I notice they are more subdued ( spelling) ....I often wonder if that is the medication I am on, or just my life energy in transformation - or I have walls blocking " input" ???? ---- as I do find the world around me very negative and I stay inside my fantasy land I guess where I feel safe. Trauma is weird that way, it can do strange things to your mind. I can not say I miss the poltergeist stuff , flying books and weird crap like that or the old experiences I had for many years with some form of beings ( my son too ) ...but, I miss the daily knowing of what was around me, like the all knowingness of my surroundings not only close-by, but far away as well - as in what is going on with some one, knowing ahead of times of tragedies to make the phone call to some one to watch out, knowing who is on the phone before they call and such...just being in more control of my being I guess. It is hard to explain - unless you have experienced it, it is hard to put into words. However, I do know most people have Deja Vu experiences --- those have diminished as well for me. But I think I am still having these things happen, I just think they are slipping by me though so fast I am missing the frame they are on and I can not freeze frame it to catch it and realize the event ( if that makes sense - like my mind is not as quick as it use to be) -- I think exhaustion, meds and pain can take away from many positive aspects of a human brain's ability and our faculties to comprehend them and go further into them and explore them. SO, I still may be having weird things happen to me, I just do not recall them as I was able to as well before.

However, I was able to talk to a lizard the other day who was abducted by a teenager and scared to death. I told the youngster that he just abducted a lizard and freaked him out and how would he like to be abducted. So, I told him to put him in my hand (he had him in a cup ). But before I told him to put him in my hand, I told the young boy to tell the lizard ( it was a salamander) that he was sorry and loved him and he was just curious about him and to please allow us to look at him and talk to him. SO, the young boy said that out loud to this squirming salamander in the cup and let him walk out. He walked out into my hand and rested there and I spoke to him while I was teaching the surrounding children that we are all connected through some form of circuitry and some call that energy love. And with this love we can communicate with all forms of life . The Salamander mellowed out, I told him to walk over to Tim's hand and he did and I told the little guy I would be right back with my camera and take a picture of it and also a pic of the Salamander coming back to my hand. Every one doubted that by time I came back with my camera that the little lizard guy would still be sticking around. Well, he was, and I got the shots and then the salamander went onto my hand and I got the shots of him looking at me and we had a little yak. This was an excellent experience for the children who were at my home the other day (age range between 14 - 17) as they had never thought of talking to other life forms. They told me they wish they had teachers who would teach them things like that instead of what they are learning in their classroom. To me, I think of it being a totally natural event, talking to animals , tree frogs and all.....to them it was magic and it changed their perspective in a very positive way as if they too could make a positive difference in the world and take control over some actions and events that occur.

What is also interesting is I asked them what is it they would like to learn in the next few years before they are considered an adult and what did they think about their world as it is now? They all said they felt their world was dying and failing and they all wanted to learn survival skills....I smiled and told them they were "right on"....I did not tell them about my latest articles, but, I was impressed by one fellow telling me he wanted to learn about how the ancients survived....Food , water and shelter.......... I brought up about astronomy as it was used to know the changing of the seasons and when to plant - agriculture and water. (One of the days we were working in the garden was on Equinox - they were helping me clear weeds and the broken limbs from the winter away from my labyrinth I have bean creating the past 12 years - they have never seen one before - so I got to slip in some astronomy and sacred spaces to walk, contemplate and plant) .....so, I thought the past few days were really cool and I felt blessed in a way.

Also, the kids told me they hated math and geometry, but they noticed the crystals in my yard and I explained geometry (starting with a triangle) to them using the crystals as an example of hexagonal geometry (although I explained some forms of minerals, like maybe different types of iron pyrite ??? have some pentagonal facets as well as hexagonal facets). I explained pentagonal geometry such as organic life, like a starfish, and then the crossover between hex and pent such as a honey comb with its hexagonal compartments and some flowers have 5 petals & some have 6; DNA crosses over with its hex strands and on and on - yak, yak, yak.... they loved it and understood it when it was hands on (and they saw the colors of the crystal break up when the sun light hit it , so I got into sun angles and spectrums too). They actually began to see and understand mathematics and geometry through the use of nature. It was really great. They don't hate math and geometry so much any more now that they see its beauty and form created by the intelligence of nature - not a human text book. And they understand now from the salamander experience that we are all connected by some form of a natural bond and circuitry and we do have the ability and can communicate with many life forms. I feel this is very important for these children to know and put into practice.

Here at the Grail we take many things for granted (because we seek and communicate and are helping each other exposing the curiosities in our world and communicate ), but there is a young generation out there that are going to be adults that will be very lost because they lack the basic skills of survival and knowing what hard work is (not just hanging on IPods and Netflix) and actually KNOWING skills and putting them to work to survive and create and be productive. One young man said that getting his hands in the dirt and working like that made him feel great and as one with the earth -he felt GOOD. I thought that was terrific for him to feel that and to articulate it. (These are children with special needs in ways - but, way smarter than others give them credit for- they are not handled properly in regular schools with the same ole crap and the dumbing down grade modern education.)

Well, I guess I am rambling here, on tangents, but , they relate to the supernatural that is really natural and as far as death who knows; and what about the fireflies? I guess that is my personal little thing that one day I will understand when I get there.

Oh, something neat happened, and I will write about it later on (it was one reason why the children were here to learn as they were helping me - as in hands on type teaching) . But, it is a good thing about schools and education here locally I have been trying to put together, and I wish to spread it throughout. SO, when I am able to write about it and I understand my position a bit better - I will let you know and hopefully we can spread this to other communities and start helping others and getting back to basics.
Love, Colette

I suppose I will have to spell check this one, Hope I do Ok with it.

Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
www.circulartimes.net
www.circulartimes.org

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How great to be able to communicate so much to those kids which will change the way they think about our world. (I talk to lizards, frogs, birds, my cat and often have more sensible conversations with them than I do with other humans!)

One night not so long ago I embarked on explaining to my (not quite 5 yr old) grandson about why there was a little crescent moon, which I'd taken him outside to see. He wanted to know if I'd be able to see it from my house too if I was there, and if so whether it was the same moon!

With the aid of 2 basket balls and a smaller ball I showed him how the earth rotated and revolved around the sun (the 2 bigger balls), and how the moon (smaller ball) orbited the earth, and why he could sometimes see a little baby moon and sometimes a big full moon depending on how the sun shone on it.

I thought I'd perhaps been a bit optimistic and explained things beyond his understanding, so was delighted the next day when he got the 3 balls and explained it all to me!!

Children are a lot smarter than we often give them credit for being.

Regards, Kathrinn

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you hit on so many good points in that post.

the Nadis - 72000 subtle channels in the body
(the fireflies lights you mention).

chief ones are ten and they carry the Pranas. Ida, Pingala, Sushumna, Gandhari, Hastijihva,
Pusa, Yusasvini, Alambusa, Kuhuh and Sankhini are said to be the ten important Nadis.

heres one quick link

http://books.google.ca/books?id=uY6MGgH5...

and all your comments about newer generation to learn skills - its so true - we have develop a soceity to rely
on a system to support us for all our needs -
which puts us in a weaker position if any diaster occured.

and true - todays society has so many negatives,
and so many bad.

but lucky for the world there are people like us.
it makes the world a better place,

ciao clemente

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But I like to think I have a special connection with dogs. I just love them; and whenever I see one I project all my admiration for its beauty to it; and I think the dogs respond to that.

My sister has a neighbor who has two dogs living on his front yars—which is really his garage; this SOB doesn't take propper care of the poor animals. The two dogs are a dogue the Bordeaux and a labrador. the dogue is a really impressive animal with a massive head and big jowls, it's something that whould give anyone pause, but from the moment I lay my eyes on it I fell in love with this gorgeous animal. So whenever I visit my sister I first say hello to my cuadruped friend, who is always excited to see me—most to the amazement and fear of my family who can't imagine I don't feel scared to pet an animal with a head twice the size of mine :)

the only problem comes afterward, when I have o wash my hands because those poor animals are practically frolicking on their own feces :(
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It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

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I have found that dogs listen to me better when I talk to them in complete sentences.

Not that they understand any of it, but they seem to appreciate the respect given to them. My guess is the dog pack social structure is similar to the human extended family, so they want to fit in. And some of them understand they idea of social acceptance expressed by complete sentences.

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It is not how fast you go
it is when you get there.