What Do You Think About the Dogon & UFOs?

What Do You Think About the Dogon & UFOs?

Hello,

This text was sent to me and I was told I could reprint it. Also there are some links to it for some video to watch on YouTube - it is a documentary about some UFO sightings and the Dogon tribe.
There are pictures to be seen of the supposed alien that was photographed with a Polaroid camera by the fellow who encountered it 2 different times, the last time being in 1993.
SO, after going to the site with the text and looking also at the photos and then the videos - part one and part two - What do you think? Real of Not?

I have inserted the proper links below too in his paper - they are the same as the ones listed below, just in context.

Hope you enjoy this.

Colette

Text Story

Pictures to See

Dogon Part One Video

Dogon Part Two Video

Occupants Listings

Well, I see the link was yellow and may not work, here it is just plain - maybe it will work that way........I did this on an edit.

http://www.hyper.net/ufo/occupants.html

Dear Dr. Dowell

I was intrigued by the possible parallels between the "alien" beings described in the Caponi Italy 1993 / Varginha Brazil 1996 cases and the amphibian beings described in various mythologies, e.g.

1/ the "Nommos" of African tribe Dogon in Mali. The word Nommos is derived from a Dogon word meaning, "to make one drink," The Nommos are usually described as amphibious, hermaphroditic, fish-like creatures. Folk art depictions of the Nommos show creatures with humanoid upper torsos, legs/feet, and a fish-like lower torso and tail.

2/ the pre-Sharun cultures of modern day Iraq contacts with amphibious being known as Oannes (ref: works of Berossus, a priest who was the first person known to have collected those fertile crescent encounter stories in his Babyloniaka, a history of Babylon).

A few days ago, I stumbled upon Youtube's clip of a (spanish production?) documentary on greek TV about the Dogons, which unfortunately was broadcast translated, rather than subtitled (which tends to cause further distortion). In that documentary, there is info about the Nommos, which e.g. describe the Nommos having red eyes, three fingers and breathe through a place in (our) stomach area.

See
Dogon Part One Video

Dogon Part Two Video

Look at the Caponi story & pictures at
Text Story

Pictures to See

Notice the place the "tubes" go in is in the stomach area.

Notice things which suggest the Caponi-being desires water, as Caponi's testimony suggests:

"The being had always appeared with gauze around the legs, and something similar to leather on its back, but this time it did not wear its covering anymore, but appeared with two tubes on the thorax that seemed to slightly move under its skin, like from air or liquid pressure, or some fluid, I don't know, maybe for its respiration. The small tubes both moved rhythmically. And an other important thing: I was convinced that the body was wet, it drained water, it dripped. But not much. From its head, water passed beside the eyes like some sweat. I want to emphasize that that evening my sister had also heard the noises, on the small terrace of our house, where my father had two drums in which he put water for watering the flowers. We have thought that perhaps it had gone to bathe itself. The drums were supposed to be full, but instead one was half empty. Maybe during the night, it had "undressed", dipped in a drum, washed, and jumped from the terrace, producing the noise of a jump in water that my sister heard."

Also, apparently the Caponi being is wearing a jumpsuit and "helmet" in all but the last photo. The only time when it's seen without its "coveralls/jumpsuit" was on 20-Sep-1993 which was a rainy night.

The Varginha case witnesses talk about "oily (wet/glistering?) brown skin", "very small hands with three fingers", "huge veins running down its neck" (perhaps the tubes seen in Caponi's photos?). There is a different in the description of length of arms and legs, but the being seen by the 3 girls at Varginha was seen in "kneeling" position (which incidentally is also how Caponi's sketch depicts it).

American medical doctor Dr. Roger Leir traveled to Brazil in 2003 and interviewed a Varginha doctor who said he examined one of the aliens. The physician observed "reticulated skin," which though smooth, showed the outlines of scales, as well as a "claw-like appendage," Leir recounted (src: C2C interviews on 29-Aug-2004 and 22-May-2005). My Question: would this "claw-like appendage" be at the lower limb / "thigh" area? (see pic)

There are many Web pages on the Caponi and Varginha cases, I list several sources in my UFO-occupants page at
Occupants Listings

Please feel free to forward/share/re-mix this to anyone.

Regards from Greece,
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Dr. Dowell, I'm kind of living a weird moment right now,as I'm writing these words to you.

You are talking about the dogon, and you link a couple of videos regarding a spanish documentary translated to greek.

Well. Right now, I'm in the process of finishing THIS book, written by EXACTLY the same person that appears in the documentary you linked. Mister Juan José Benítez.

I'm literally shaking as I'm writing this. My God, how can this be? I stopped believing in coincidences a long time ago, but still...

Because just yesterday I was going through pages 276-279 of the book, in which Benítez describes his journeys to Mali (which should be the time when he shot the documentary that appears in youtube) and talked with some of the dogon elders, which described their lore about the nommos gods.

Benítez believes there's a connection between the UMMO case that was famous in Europe during the 60s, 70s, and the nommo tradition of the dogon.

Now please understand this, Benítez does not believe the UMMO letters are authentic. What he claims in the book is that, all around the world and in even years before the letters were made public, people has seen UFOs with the stranhe H like symbol that was linked with the so-called UMMO myth.

please compare the UMMO symbol , which you can find in this page

http://www.isolachenonce-online.it/et/ta...

with the KANAGA headdress of the dogon dancers...

http://www.celtiberia.net/verimg.asp?id=...

In fact, this symbol, with some variations, appear all through out history it seems. It appears in the cyrilic russian alphabet (apparently around the same year the dogon tradition claims their gods came to Earth), in chinese pottery (apprently, in chinese the symbol means "king" or something like that.

You know, just last Friday I wrote an e-mail to J.J. Benítez website, suggesting there might be a connection between the UMMO symbol and the symbol of the french monarchy, the fleur de lis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur-de-lis

I know it's a bit of a stretch, but I think there's a simmilarity between the two symbols. The two petals of the flower are like the two opposite curves of the UMMO symbol, and both have a vertical and a horizontal element that BIND both curves...

http://scoutpleyades.webcindario.com/

And since in chinese the symbol means "king", well... you know. It's a hunch :-)

Now I don't anything about the italian case you mention, I have seen these images before though. And, personally I'm not that convinced about them. It doesn't seem to me as a living being that's all. It feels that it is a puppet of some sort. I could be wrong of course.

But nevertheless it's interesting that there is this connection between the Varginha case and this italian case. And you know what else? J.J. Benítez ALSO investigated the brazilian case in the 1990s.

http://www.kajen.com/~rasken/varg_pix.html

I think there's also a connection between these cases and the famous DOVER DEMON case investigated by cryptozoologists Loren Coleman.

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-new...

I mean, not only there are some simmilarities between the morphology of the creatures seen in Brazil and in Dover (slightly humanoid, red eyes and all that). But I found yet another simmilarity: in both cases the creature was found near a ROCK WALL.

And, in this case you mention, the creature was also seen near a rock wall. Maybe it is a copy-cat hoax. But still, maybe there's something important about all these walls don't you think.

Well, anyway. I had to write all this down or it would drive me insane! I hope you find it both interesting and useful.

Maybe you should contact Benítez yourself. I don't have the pleasure of knowing him in person, but he's one of the main reasons I'm a regular at TDG...

Kind Regards
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I just left you kind of a lengthy comment concerning your question. since it has a lot of URL links it will probably take a while to appear (anti-spam blockage hates me!). But PLEASE look at it. Just let me tell you this: I don't believe in coincidences ANY MORE.

Kind Regards

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Sorry about that RPJ. Seeing as the captchas seem to have weeded out a lot of the spam, I can probably wind that filter back a bit.

Kind regards,
Greg
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Come on Red, what pills have you been sucking on lately.....?.......don't fret either about "no coincidences" - as in fact, there actually are some...

Well, I see a Gray dude, the infamous "no" Face on Mars freak and text reading of an alien out to get his "Space Bitch." I can not take this seriously, I can't follow the trend of thought you are on except that you are into two vertical risers with a connecting horizontal shaft and you think all of these things resemble each other - well, you are right, they do, but, that is about it....Take a triangle or a circle - most everywhere human kind has drawn these images as they are easy images to draw; straight lines connected or curves. I do not believe it is more than that and it is just coincidence. Give a stick to a baby ( male or female) , place the baby in the sand and let it start marking up the sand, look at the images the baby makes.....now, most likely you will see lines connected and curves and little odd circles and such. It could be argued this is collective consciousness, part of Rupert's Field (can be argued too) ....Jung....what ever..but, the fact is, we are very much alike we humans and show tremendously the same instincts. The letter H, the Fleur-de-lis and other symbols are just similar in nature, as you can say that the letter O looks like a circle or the moon or the sun, but, it has its own meaning, sound and conveys a letter. The letter O is its own entity. Gosh, am I making any sense?

I am semi fluent in Spanish and have read those papers....well, they are very suspicious -haha..to say the least - or you can say my Spanish is not all that fluent and I am missing something of gre4at importance ( but I do not think so). But, the alien in the post I saw was made of clay, look at it closely, it is not real...those pictures I saw on the one website.....uh.......which one? http://www.kajen.com/~rasken/varg_pix.html

that one........well, they look phony too, the whole thing looks jive and, well, come on Red, can you really take this text seriously when they are talking about dogging a Space Bitch and show the Face on Mars (that is not real ) and, well again........ good grief, I sure hope you do not take this seriously, or more than just a form of entertainment. I do not mean to hurt your feelings. I went to every link you posted and I do not think personally that any of it really ties together into something that means anything that is real except the info on the fleur de lis, maybe only in your mind. But, none of this seems real to me, then again, as I always say - I may be wrong.............

Quote from part of the story at

http://www.kajen.com/~rasken/varg_pix.html

"In a search after this alien, yet familiar life form he covered vast grounds in the universe he
knew. After many a year he finally sensed something pulling him in. This was, what he later
had been told, a roomful called The Milky Way. The place was filled with stardust and other
things for that matter..suddenly..there she was..that space-bitch he would have in his mind..
Oboy, was she hot! Maybee too hot to handle. After the Gnome checked his Giger he decided
it was alright to close in for a break of ice. Slowly and very carefully he then started to dock..
..and yes, you're right. They are here and here to stay....."

This does not read like a scientific report or journalistic paper, it reads like a comic strip....Space Bitch - that blows my mind...........................That little fellow on the Cryptomundo site looks like a yearling chupacabra....dig the red devil eyes................funny....

Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
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Dr. Dowell, please excuse my... how to say it... impulsiveness, when writing to you yesterday. I wasn't acting very soberly on account that it really FREAKED me out all the strange "sync" between the fact that I'm reading Benitez' book about Ummo, and you querying about these documentaries on youtube where "Juanjo" appears. In a more crude slang, it was quite the "WTF moment" :-)

Now, please let me explain that, the only reason i chose the URL links about Varginha and the dogon and Ummo that I included in my post yesterday, was merely for the images they contained. They were chosen after a rapid Google Image search. I hadn't seen that "Space Bitch" page until you pointed it to me today! I have no idea what's that about, or wy do they talk about the so-called "Face" on Mars, as you can see I'm a fairly imaginative fellow, but even that connection between the Varginha case and Mars eludes me! ok the weird chap was kind of red-colored but that's about it ;-) Once again, I should have included with the links that I only added them for the images, not the text.

The direct objective(s) of the last post was this: To express my wonder at the astounding sincronicity event that ocurred to me between my personal research on the UMMO subject and your question (it's even weirder because I really don't pay much attention to the blogs of TDG members, and it's been rather recently that I began to notice your blog comments, so the fact that it was YOU the one who asked about the dogon added to my surprise), the personal impact that J.J. Benítez' work has had in my life (I began to read his books as a teenager), and to illustrate what Benítez field work may have in common with both the dogon people of Mali, and the particular case of that "being" this italian man claims to see and photograph on several ocasions. This last one was done rather poorly and for that I apologize.

Nonetheless, I feel it's a real shame that the books of J.J. Benítez have (to my knowledge) never been translated to english. it is puzzling since in the spanish-speaking countries he's one of the most famous researchers of things like Ufology and weird phenomena. The youtube documentaries clearly illustrate just how well known he is in the mainstream media.

I really think it would be a good idea for you to try to contact Benítez, or at least try to read some of the books he has written so far, especially the last one, "El Hombre que susurraba a los Ummitas". The book has the advantage of containing a lot of photos and drawings of Juanjo's investigations all around the world. I have tried to contact him via his web page administrator but sadly to no effect. I could always try to write him to the address he includes:

J.J. Benítez
Apartado de correos 141
Barbate 11160
Cádiz - España

But I have refrained to do so, partly because of childish shyness :-) and also, because the mexican post service is a DISGRACE, so it could be months after I receive a reply from him, IF a receive a reply at all :-(

His webpage seems to have an on-line forum. Maybe I'll give it a try.

Well, I don't know what else to add. Lastly I would like to know your opinion regarding those photos you linked in your original blog post. What do you think of them? As I wrote earlier, I'm not that convinced, but they are interesting and the witness' testimony seemed sincere.

Un saludo
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Ok, what in tarnation is going on???

I had sent an e-mail to Benítez some time ago (around in the beginning of my participation at TDG) and I had never received a reply.

I sent another e-mail last friday, and no reply also.

But after I wrote the comment above, I went to register in Benítez forum, and since it sends an autommatic letter for the inscription process, along with the auto-message I also find the much delayed reply to the message I sent on Friday...

Would it have something to do with the fact that it was a Friday 13th, and after 700 years the Church has made public the exoneration to the Knight Templars? ;-)

If by the end of the week I end up seeing goblins and Bigfoot stalking me on my office parking lot, I don't know what I'm going to do! LOL

Cheers

PS: Oh! BTW, in the message they inform me some of Benitez' books will be available in english shortly. I'll keep you informed if you wish.

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As this controversy has spilled over onto Beyond the Blog in a little way, and I've been asked to comment, here goes. The main claim by Red seems to be synchronicity. I haven't posted much on this subject, but I have researched it, and I feel it is often the result of information coming out of the mind's 'clutter', and attention upon it.
Perhaps if Red and Colette would trace back to where the prompters for their actions came from, the two trails may cross, and a little light may come out of it.
As for the ever appearing reptilian humanoid with red eyes, I'm convinced we have a form of universal psychology, in that mind and environment will prompt certain responses in culture regardless of time, etc. To me these creatures are just a variation of the universal cultural monster which Christians call the Devil, usually based on Pan and other Greek beings.
It actualy appears in some form in most mythologies, so will obviously out in our beliefs and 'hallucinations', and will be represented constantly from eyewitness accounts to clay models.

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That would also explain the universal appearance of this so-called UMMO )+( symbol throughout history... with some variations of course.

But why the importance of this particular symbol, that people keep seeing it in such weird circumstances (under the belly of UFOs, on the suits of the beings that come out of them, etc). Whatever could be so special about it?

I could very well see how this "sinchronicity" thing is kind of a self-enforced phenomenon. Your mind picks something of the clutter and, either adds meaning to the event based on your life, or realizes the significance in itself. Later, you tend to keep your mind more ready for these events, so you see more and more of this in your life.

Maybe you just... open your eyes. I don't know. Maybe miracles can become of common & trivial things, but it is WE who give them the value based on the impact it has on our lives, when we pay attention to the chain of events that triggered them. Maybe I'm just delusional or need to lay down on the caffeine :-)

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No, Red, it's wider than that. Something happens, in a cultural sense, and certain people, for various reasons, pick up on it, and the 'opening your eyes' scenario follows at a personal level, but it also sets you upon a trail that intersects with others. Hence, I'd argue that you and Colette could identify the initial sponsor of the 'coincidence'.
They happen to me all the time. Even today. I've been having a bit of trouble sorting out a tree at the bottom of my garden which is obscuring people's view and could be in danger of blowing down.
The problem came to a head today, involving several people, who were somehow impelled to take action today. Why? The answer was staring me in the face when I concentrated on it. Today is the 20th anniversary of the greatest storm the UK has experienced in living memory, felling thousands of trees. And guess what, I've seen nothing but damned trees on TV all night!
Culture is synchronous and subtle - it's communal in an amazing way.

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Synchronicity is the manifestation of clear thought. You create your own reality. Everything begins with a thought. If the thought is clear and strong enough, the universe will provide. It will materialise in some form. Your dreams will come true if the thoughts are determined enough and not jumbled. This is not a knew idea, it;s been around since humans started thinking.

"Life can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you do what your told."
LRF.

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Yeah, I have had WTF moments too, I think every one has in part. Synchronicity, I do think you are having it, I am not, but, it sure seems you are, and if I can be a part of it, well, that is all fine with me as long as it is not violent or nasty.

Where was I in the moment of time as Anthony says to think of when I posted this? OK, I was sitting in my bedroom at my computer, reading this email from this guy when all of a sudden I thought this is Grail material. I emailed the fellow back and told him what I thought after reading what he sent and going to those links and that I was going to post it on a site as he allowed me permission to spread it about. SO, when was that? When ever it was that it said I did it. It might have been yesterday or today depending on the time of where you are at.

It was a logical event in my mind. During the time I was reading the email and "experiencing" the now of it, as in, "be here now," I was not thinking of Red, I was no thinking of the Grail, I was not thinking of the Face on Mars or the hot Space Bitch. I was thinking however, about how people hoax things and they look so bad and phony and others look at them and can not distinguish them from real or not real. That is what I truly was thinking and I was thinking more of that than anything else. So, if that falls into any category of your "Red Mind" Red, then there you have it........................Oh, and that is very nice that you read me. I actually forget people read me. I post when things are on my mind. It is moreso like the Grail is my mirror. Mirror mirror on the wall......I ask it questions, I pour my guts out, I tell it stories, I add some thoughts.................but, then people read them. I do know that members of the Grail read them and we interact. I forget others who do not post read this stuff and follow what we are talking about. Recently I have had emails sent to me from things I wrote on the Grail and these people do not post on it - it made me feel freaky......They are watching me. They say they come here to read what I have to say. Yeah, that is kind of odd, I never thought of that. So, hello to you people out there that come here to read what I write about. I think that is to be good isn't it? I am not sure???

Anthony, I just went to your site to see where you guys were discussing bits that would tie in what is on here. I could not find it, can you place a link please to it so we can read how it all ties together?

Devils are little red men with forked tongues and tails and pointy little ears and red fiery eyes and they stand on the cliffs off a sea of lava and poke sinners in the butt making them jump into the blazing liquid and they burn up. You do not want a little devil on your back. The way to get rid of them is to not sin. That is what alot of people think. But, I do not know if that is true or not. I have ever seen a devil. I suppose they all look alike in one way or another. Red, little pointy ears and tails and ....then some blood dripping from their....and then their tongue is ....and then their pointy forked tail and ....and....and...well, they are all related in some way.

WTF - you have just posted another post since I just read these two and answered to them, well, I cannot write again. I guess I could, I am spell checking thses the best I can. I am getting brain fried, still having porblems from that lightning stike. HAd jerks so bad yesterday morning I flung my coffee all over the sheets.bummer.spent the day washing coffee out.

YOu are having a lot of WTF moments................WTF can mean many things too you know......I am WTFing over you just writing again.Like WTF? That was quick, what does this guy do all day? Post on the Grail???

I am ribbing you Red.........

Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
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Thanks for that, Colette. It spilled onto my site with a comment about it from Red, on my Sympathy of Souls post, linked on Tuesday Roundup.
Okay the link stops with you with the email. These things form, I think, out of connections built upon connections. To trace them can often be impossible and would require going back to the emailer and possibly further back than that.
I'm still convinced somewhere some information or action would intersect - in theory.

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Nite, nite.

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what does this guy do all day? Post on the Grail???

And not much else nowadays, which has caused some trouble with my employer, I might add!

I posted a lengthy comment on Benítez forum. Let's see if the weirdness continues...

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OK WTF, here we go again

I am not having a synchronistic moment, you are, not me - but, when I do ,I love it. They tend to last for days at a time. Wait, some of them do as I live my life like that, but some are just a days worth.

Now Red get ready for more SYNCH....hold on to your britches as you will not be able to handle this one after all of this all ready....OK, here we go - a big one.....

My birthday was on the 13th of October, NOW THAT IS SYNCHRONICITY - did I spell that right? Oh, the 13th was on a Saturday wasn't it? Not on a Friday..

Oh heck..

SO, see Red, that even fuels you more on your synchronicity bit, but you got the day wrong, you said Friday - aaaa nope-aaaa wrong, it was on a Saturday. But, maybe where you are it was on a Friday. Where are you at? Don't tell me you are in North Carolina sitting at your computer in your bedroom going back and forth tossing about whether or not to write an article for your site? No, don't tell me that. That would be way too weird now...................NO, I am not really contemplating that,I am too far gone still from that fire that struck me down. That was not a devil, that was a bolt from the heavenly skies, not from hell where those little creatures live......

I agree partly on your theory on synchronicity Anthony. I would add that yours is cultural in a way- yes -the way you define it, but that is on one level. It is the synchronistic things that happen when you are not in the realm of mainstream and do not follow the outside world so much. I have had flying books happen to me and then my friend witnessed an event of it too after it had happened before. And the title of the book happened to be about the subject I was talking about with the person who saw the book fly off the wall ---again, like WTF?. But, the person who I initially told them about flying books, is the person I was talking about, and they happened to see it fly from behind me. It was all very synchronistic and then tied into a past event -again, like WTF?. It had nothing to do with mainstream things or culture of the day. I do see what you are talking about how things can be subliminal and then we rethink them as they are on our minds because of something in our peripheral view.........but, then it can go deeper than that..........

Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
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Yep. I made a mistake on the date. Friday was the 12th not the 13th.

BTW congrats on your birthday! Which, to add maybe a little more spice to this thread, is 10 days after mine (I was born on Oct 3rd, 1973).

Oh, one more thing that came to me a while after reading your previous-previous reply. When you wrote:

"HAd jerks so bad yesterday morning I flung my coffee all over the sheets.bummer.spent the day washing coffee out.

I had a very nice but weird dream last night (although it was probably past midnight, don't know). I was inside a weird but pleasant english house, very big and old, but not creepy, following an elder gentleman who was showing me around and leading me toward a room. After I complimented for his lovely house, we sat down on a bed, and he had in his hand a glass filled with creme-de-ment (the liquid was green and I tink with ice, and I enjoy ocasionally a glass), but right after he was going to give it to me, he spilled its content all over my shirt (I felt it was an accident, not deliberate). I think I went to a bathroom to clean myself, and that's when the dream stops.

Well, that's it... for now :-)

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Is what mine are called, my arm will fling, my leg will fling, both feet will fling at teh same time, my torso will fling up or to the side......I hate it. I was sitting up in bed, drinking cofee and then my right arm involuntarially flung out and that was the arm with teh hand that was holding teh coffe cup. It was not green, it was cafe con leche color....It was about 10 am my time in NC..............

yeah, that is pretty weird to have that dream.
YOu are a Libra too? Now that is snych on a small level.

I am 50 now. I have been looking at my life and what all I have doen. I have done a lot of differnt things in this lifetime and it makes it seem like there are many lifetimes within this one. Most people do not realize I was a musician in LA and Vegas before I wa a doctor. ALso, that I was a commercial artist and general contractor too in California..........that was the first half of my life this time. I have a whole world of friends out there still doing the msuic bit.............wow, those were fun days too. Now I am different than I was a few years a go.
I am still me though, just slower, wiser and less likely to get in trouble. But, I realize I have been too nice to people and then I have been walked on and ripped off. I Was told I was an easy mark. I did not understand that at first. Now I understand it. I have been too nice to people and then they have taken advantage of that. OR, I have not distrusted people I should have, so that hurt me too.
50 years old, that is getting up there.From the age of 40 -50 things were very different thatn lets say 30 -40. I think I peaked at 35.............I am not peaking now, although many people say when you hit 50 it just begins...wow...maybe, huh?

XC

I just came back on an edit-I am going to hang up now..nite nite to you and ANthony and eery one...oh, myoclonic or? I can't spell it right now...myoclonic electric jerks? I forget how to say it/

Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
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Thanks for sharing these things about your life with me. I will close this now by saying one of the greatest things that has happened to my life of late is finding this site, with such wonderful people as yourself and Anthony (without forgetting Greg, Rick,Kat and the rest of the gang who might be reading all this and scratching their heads).

Life's weird
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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

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