Pyramid Quest - The Latest Schoch
Posted by Colette M. Dowell at 03:29, 22 May 2005Well, it looks like Dr. Robert M. Schoch has written another neat book about the Ancient Egyptians, it will be released in June. I thought I might let you folks in on some of it. I think you might find it interesting. Also, I would like to hear about any one’s particular theory about the Great Pyramid as well.
I have been reading the galleys for Pyramid Quest. I can see why Dr. Robert M. Schoch titles it such. I am only half way through, but I can see how he has laid a very interesting foundation leading up to further analysis of the Great Pyramid and the Ancient Egyptians. The second half is literally appendices about the variable hypotheses that have been formulated throughout the many centuries of many researchers, authors and the likes in their quest for understanding the Great Pyramid. Not only does Schoch detail many facets of variable analyses from many researchers and time travelers, he also addresses some formative thoughts on his personal and collaborated findings on the Sphinx, the Great Pyramid and Ancient Egyptians.
So far I have really enjoyed it. I did not know about the body of thought concerning the Great Pyramid; that it was designed to be a nuclear power station to possibly transport extraterrestrials maybe to Mars or somewhere? Wow, that one was strange. I am familiar with the Great Pyramid thought of as a huge water pump station, as years ago I had reviewed the Pharaoh’s Pump; a book written by Edward J. Kunkel in prior decades. I have read in the first half of Pyramid Quest many old timey theories about the Great Pyramid I did not know of, which have been buried under new modern theories. I like the bits Schoch writes about antiquated initiation rituals and the many authors and their lost views about different theological aspects. In more recent modern times, I found the Rosicrucians to be interesting, and then of course Manly P. Hall. But Schoch has dug down into some far reaching areas and found obscure lost and ancient texts of interest I had no idea even existed. Of course Schoch discusses mathematical and geometrical analyses that have seemingly some merit to them and then the ones that do rather seem to be far out in theory.
And then there is always smiling Zahi Hawass for all of you Zahi fans.
I will update as I read and further continue my quest of understanding more about all of the great mysteries the Ancient Egyptians behold.
Has any one ever heard of the Great Pyramid being built for use as a nuclear power station? I am interested in that one. I had not heard of it before. Does any one else have any other theories of what the structure of the Great Pyramid was possibly used for?
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17 March 2005
4 years 33 weeks
www.gizapower.com
Chris Dunn has a website and a book, I once heard somebody say you can come up with an theory you like and you will find evidence to support it I believe it is even a syndrome it has a name. Anyway my opinion on the great pyramid is that it is a landmark and some sort of fortified structure. It was obviously built with a purpose and I am sure the original limestone casing would have provided us with all the awnsers we need.
If you look at the shape it will not get covered in sand due to the slopes and its immense size shows it was definetly built to last. In Zecharia Sitchins third book the wars of gods and men he describes many battles involving sumerian deities and humans in and around the pyramids.
Whatever the case the huge hulk of architecture is no longer operational. It stands as a reminder that we are not the be all and all peak of civilisation, it is my belief that the previous human civilisations were more right brain orientated, they did not need vast machines and infrastructure supporting those machines.
26 February 2005
1 year 6 weeks
Thank you Scooby,
Yes, that was the author Schoch referenced and talked about. I read that before or had heard about it , but Schoch goes into great detail and it is very interesting, not that I really think it is what the Great Pyramid was really built for, but at any rate, I found it nice to have it available inside the book to read about. I thought it to be strange. Schoch also mentions Zac as well....I am starting into the second half. I like this book, he so far has a nice balance in it and covers a lot of territory.
I forget who was the author who even wrote about the Great Pyramid and the mathematical measurements disecting the Pyramid in inches. Each inch was representative of a year and was a form of prophecy??? That was strange...I had heard that too, but what is good, Schoch gets into more detail and then lists the authors and titles of books and when they were published. To me that almost seems like Nostrodamus and his quatrains...or however you spell it. I still can't figure out the spell check on this thing.....
In many centuries ago, travelers all had different opinions, and then it seems as time moves on, and technology moves on, the reason for the Great Pyramid structure tends to move along the time frame, sort of like for each era, the Great Pyramid means something to the era that is alive....Now of course, we are in the nuke era.
Schoch gets into some really neat spiritual rituals and names various authors and their comments about how they felt about the Geat Pyramid and what the believed it to be.
He mentions about the Masons and Freemasons and the cults in America and our forefathers and all. Kind of reminds me of what Greg Taylor writes about in his book DaVinci in America. However, I have not read his book, just his comments and reviews. I have many old files on that type of related material. It is scary in a way........I have maps and things.....written articles and the cults and all.
Well, I like Pyraimd Quest and find it interesting. I just read and learn about all different things. I find searching for truths of all kinds is pretty diverse. I have some pretty old books. One that is really wierd is titled X-Raying the Pharaohs....strange as all heck. It contains a lot of pictures of these mummy dudes inside the sarcophaguses....did I spell that right? Some of the skulls look like cone heads....seriously. Like they were not human at all. One
x-ray they actually found a baboon in instead of a Pharaoh??????
One site that is very good, and contains a vast amount of antiquated books on Sacred texts is...????
Sacred Science Institute???? Go on a search , you will find it....Brad is the man's name, he has a great selection of very rare books and such. Here he is, I found it.....
Brad Stewart
W. Bradstreet Stewart
Sacred Science Institute
Web: www.sacredscience.com
Email: institute@sacredscience.com
I will check out the link to the site you posted. I appreciate it very much. I am starting to compile a variety of weird thoughts and theories on many different topics.
THe Great Pyramid will always be great, that is for sure.
Thank you, Colette
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
Moving Forward Publications
17 March 2005
4 years 33 weeks
Like yourself I absorb vast amounts of information trying to glean that gem of knowledge amongst ego centric rantings of some people who are having difficulty keeping their imagination in check. Certainly all the anomalies on the planet lead any objective person to conclude that we are missing something, however due to our current indoctrination 95% of people dismiss the awesomeness of this world. Just look at the mental illness ravaging the western world we are making ourselves sick.
Myself I can read something, find it has a grain of truth, research it find corroborating evidence backing it up, then I give the idea plausibility, however I still cant believe something until I actually see it happening and understand it and it is not always in a physical sense.
Currently I am absorbing Jay Weidner and Michael Hayes's respective websites, alchemy always ties back into these topics which in turn ties back into spirituality. In this world where are so focused on the material and the self, it is so easy to dismiss anything spiritual or supernatural we taught from birth to rubbish such claims.
You are correct the Great Pyramid along with other works of long standing architecture stand as a symbol of our past, a reminder of how ignorant we are. We cannot build the great pyramid today! let alone with logs of wood and lots of manpower and time. People still dismiss it though, even though it stands there representing the unknown. It is like UFO's, if a group of people see a UFO, then another group corroborate the sighting in another location, and then the craft is sighted on radar is that not proof that there is something up there?
I am not a great supporter of David Icke however I think that we are being controller and manipulated by the richest most powerful 10% in the world. It used to be overt control via the catholic church, now with covert control we are free to do exactly as we are told. They can give us freedom while at the same time locking us up for expressing said freedom. Until our true history is revealed and not concealed, and science is not suppressed and controlled we will not fulfill our destiny or even be able to grasp the concept of what we truly are.
I know it sounds a bit pessimistic however I do believe that Humans are capable of magazine feats of awareness, if we knew how and had the will the universe truly would be our playground.
22 November 2004
1 day 19 hours
What do you mean we can't build the great pyramid today? We are not sure how they were built, but making a new one would not be particularly difficult, including the alignment with stars.
There are many things we do today on a regular basis that are a mystery to most people, and that seem very counter-intuitive. Looking at a 747 or a C5 go by, it is still almost impossible to believe it can fly. Yet is does.
In past ages, the "experts" who made things work called it magic. Now, many people are skeptical because they are told it is not. This is more a mystery of the human mind than of the workings of the universe.
5 February 2005
3 years 12 weeks
Dear Colette,
We've just seen the documentary of the X-rayed Tut-Anch-Amon on Nat. Geo. and what smashed me in the face was the following : they showed us briefly the shape of Tut's skull => Cone (or egg) shaped !!
If you then take a look at some Sumerian small statues, Achnaton and one of his daughters, Peruvian skulls... yeah, this is really getting bizarre.
Check this link : http://www.biped.info/articles/missingra...
Greetings from Antwerp.
26 February 2005
1 year 6 weeks
Wow, that was great, I just went to that link, the term conehead I have always used endearingly from Saturday Night Live. I wrote an article about the Incas and Maya years ago. It was about how they mutilated the young and transformed the shape of their skulls to distinguish class. The photos of the Pharaohs's skulls freaked me out. They look like Aliens....
Those are some outrageous photos and illustrations on that site. The article is very good and informative. I have photos from of the skulls in the National Mueseum of Natural History, or whatever it is called in Merida, Yucatan.
In the book X-raying the Pharaohs, they speak about the inner breeding of family lines. They (the skulls) have a very distinct over bite. Very bucked tooth and very deformed. I do not even know how they could eat or suck through a straw if needed. The Egyptian Pharaohs also supposedly had very bad dental problems due to these deformities which were thought of at that time to be caused from the incestial relationships of the blood lines. I wondered if they planked the babie's skull to make it elongated of if it was birth defects or what ever. I thought they were Aliens or something. I swear they do not look human. Too many Pharaohs look really like coneheads. I would think transforming the skull like that would have to have some affect on the brain. I mean think about it. I do not know what all has been figured about that, but that site you referred is pretty amazing.... Thank you.......Phew...........what a rush....
Yes, I have seen many pictures of the headresses that were "in Style" but wondered if they were not really hats that had to be shaped that way to cover the head and to fit. I have pictures of when I was in Egypt of the different figurines and statues.I do not remember all of the names, I can't spell them either. I personally am openminded about another race of beings ivolved in Egypt other than your normal homo type ancestor. Especially because of the traditions of the coneheads through out the ancient world. Voyages of the Pyramid Builders, Robert Schoch wrote that as well, addresses the possible scenario of migrating humans and the patterns of the ancients showing up at different areas of the world at different times.If I remember correctly two terms were used. Inventionism and diffusionism....
The Egyptians and many other races were very intelligent beings and very advanced in astronomy. Schoch goes into that as well in Pyramid Quest, more so the Egyptians though in this book. I had taken some astronomy courses so I am familiar with some of the terms, but Schoch makes sure the reader is understanding of some of the terminology and defines for them. Also in the appendices.....So, I think he has written a very well thought out and full of great weird stuff to think about.
Many cultures have aligned their sites to the stars and created calendrical systems based so they would know when winter and summer solstice was, as well as the equinoxes. They were dependent upon this knowledge for their survival and crops.
Mark Vidler wrote an intersting book, called The Star Mirror. In it he addresses the sacred sites around the world and the highest mountian tops coinciding with the constellations and high magnitude stars. I think it is still available at Amazon. It was published maybe 7 ? years ago??? I posted the review on here a long time ago, it might be in the blogs somewhere yet. The review which is posted at Amazon I wrote is very edited. The one I posted for the Grail was the total content. Actually, You can find it at Sacred Sites....go on a search......interesting read....
I think we were better off in the old days myself as far as no tech and all. I know we are in modern times. I admit I am very grateful to the computer.
As far as the comments that they can build the Great Pyramid today, that is not actually true, when you speak with engineers, there are many problems in construction they have not figured out yet. Electronics and computer is completely different from construction methods and available technology to reconstruct. I am a General Contractor as well as educated in many diverse fields. I also am in contact with many specialists concerning many areas, one obviously, the situations which are happening over at Giza..........We do not have the technology today to build the Great Pyramid as it is. We would have to develop special technology for that. There is a difference.
I read the thing Greg wrote about the Grail going to PDF and a magazine format, does that mean we can share photos?
I like to read about all kinds of reserach, sometimes it does not sit well with me, and that is another person's thought, so I allow them to share them. I also do not believe what all Ickey writes, but I do think there are the big boys out there trying to control us, and they really do, as we are dependent upon our society. Things have really gotten out of control. Has any one ever seen the old movie and cult classic THEY LIVE? It is about the Aliens covertly controlling us....It is truly weird and probaly in some sense truthful.
I was reading about the rate of the extinction of various species of animals....wow.I have been watching that for years as well. I am interested in anything that I can grow spiriutally from and help others evolve into a higher awareness so that we may some day be able to live in harmony. Like in that old movie Lost Horizons, starring Ronald Coleman, it was in black and white.
When I finish Pyramid Quest or get more into the middle of the last half, I will update some more.
So does anyone else out there have any weird stories about the Great Pyramid? Or the Coneheads??????
I wish I could scan those photos and display them for you folks....really stange.........and it is a very old book.
Thank you for the link on the Coneheads, very interesting article...
And then the one on the nuke plant was just as weird......
I do not know if we will really ever be able to find out what the Great Pyramid was really built for. maybe it was built as a device to further our search for understanding , simple as that. Who knows?
XC
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
Moving Forward Publications
22 November 2004
1 day 19 hours
What is it about building the pyramids that we would don't know how to do? Building something the same size and shape from different materials is not the same of course. But the old materials are not the problem, nor is the physical architecture. So what is missing ?
17 March 2005
4 years 33 weeks
The main problem I feel we would have is assembling the pyrimad as it is, I am sure the best chinook chopper pilots would have trouble landing all those stone slabs at perfect angles, and besides the largest blocks are 200 tonnes and are in the upper regions of the pyramid.
I find it interesting that there are now portrait style or realistic depictions of the priest kings of Sumeria Akkad etc. All the old illustrations are rather sketch like and symbolic. I have only seen one of an Annunaki 7000BC stone statue it looks insectoid or reptillian. It is in Lawrence Gardners book and Im sure all over the net.
I am wondering if the Coneheads are descendants of the original priest kings, humans bred with another more advanced hominoid. The sumerian texts do talk about this. I realise that Nancy Lieder is clearly insane but you cant throw the baby out with the bath water i find the myths section on www.zetatalk.com very interesting would make a good science fiction movie. And of course life imitates art.
Can I have some opinions on the Annunaki or Pyramid builders, Atlanteans root civilisation do you believe they were , of earthly origin being Humans or slightly different? There is quite a lot of evidence to suggest humans have been around not for thousands but millions of years.
www.humandevolution.com
If not Google Michael Cremo
26 February 2005
1 year 6 weeks
Hey there, I checked out that link, there was so much there I did not know where to look for the Coneheads.....?????
Any specific place?
Colette
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
Moving Forward Publications
26 February 2005
1 year 6 weeks
There are lots of books out diagraming the architecture of the Great Pyramid as well as many specialists scratching their heads on how it was built. There are inside chambers and such, yes, the star alignments would be easy enough, but the internal passageways and relieveing chambers are baffling. There is much debate on how it was really built. There are theories and some pretty god ones. One problem I have read about would be a special crane would need to be developed. That stooped me as when they had the cranes to build the Trade Towers and the Sears building. But the ones needed to build the Great Pyramid would be of a specific nature. Another problem is the slope angle, I think there are many problems. I do not have the names of books handy. I do know one really good book off hand, although it was written years ago by Peter Tompkins, that one is Secrets of the Great Pyramid. There is an appendix in the back of it with Stechinni's measurements and some mathematical analysis. Robert Schoch gets into some. Ummmm, there are links I have book marked that Professors have newly diagramed the pyramid with Petrie's measurements. They thing there are som errors maybe in the measurements.......
I have never read the book Giza the Truth, but there may be some idications in that book. I am not sure though if they get into the construction. I think Ian Lawton and a Chris O.????somebody wrote that. You can probably find that on Amazon.
I remember in Las Vegas, Nevada, they tried to build a replica of the Great Pyramid. They call it now the Luxor Hotel. They had many problems building it at the proper slope angle and had many cave ins. I think the biggest problem is how was it built with the internal relieveing chambers as such, and the slope angle and then the foundation to get the cardinal points, althouh as you say, that can be easily done now with bearings from compasses and such. It is just a very complex design. But, it is very elegant in all that it embodies.
Many authors comment on the problems with the building. I see it as the stones them selves to stack them up and then the limestone covering it once had. Today, it would take someone with a lot of money to want to design special equipment to construct the Great Pyramid, that is probably where the porblems lies. Although, some one did try to in Las Vegas. Yes it was of different material and the internal structure was not the same, but there were many problems. Many died in those accidents. Can you only magine what it would cost to build the original Great Pyramid today with all of the hand worked stones and crafstmanship and the quality of granite.....
SO, the problems stems probably from no money and no interest from the people who have money to want to try and reconstruct it by developing equipment to build it I suspect?????? But, then there is the big question, how was it intially built in the first place. Schoch does address some of this based from other people's speculations and from ancient texts. Different engineers have tackled the problem and have come up with different answers, it seems no one agrees....that is a problem as well......There are some that kind of agree and it seems like there may have been some progress in actually understanding how it was built.
I think maybe asking Zahi, he would know. He could better tell you that it was slave labor probably and just plain old Egyptians using sweat and their little minds. I use to think the stones were levitated....I changed my mind on that one though I think. I am open to suggestions and theories.
Colette
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
Moving Forward Publications
6 May 2004
16 weeks 5 days
"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts!"
--------Albert Einstein
That being said, I wouldn't dare to aspire to KNOWing what or how the pyramid was built for but I do believe they are far older than Zahi and his ilk would have us believe. I said before and I still stand by it, that I think the ancient Egyptians more or less "found" this ancient abandoned home and settled into it. Then TRIED to immitate what they had found, but never able to.
26 February 2005
1 year 6 weeks
I really like what you had to say, I kind of think that way, that it is far older than the Egyptians, or very , very pre-dynastic and really, really old........and the Sphinx too. I do not know if any one will ever know or understand THE WHOLE TRUTH, but I do know ZAHI will never know, but will always claim he does. There really needs to be more studies done. It is difficult to get an application in though for research inside the Great Pyramid, it is very controlled and you need an academic standing behind you usually and many grants and those are very difficult to come by.
I think it is all politics over there. Sometimes I wonder if he weren't in power, and some other person with a different type of personality was head of the Egyptian Antiquities Department and such, maybe things would be different and better. But, I guess he plays his part. I do not understand it, and it frustrates me. He frustrates many individuals, but then every one does some one to some degree. But with Egyptology, it is weird. There is something that as a culture, humans are very drawn to the Great Pyramid. I have yet to pin point the exact nature of it. I think it may be different for every person .....Like everyone feels different about it depending on whom they are.
I am still waiting to see if space aliens are really going to land there instead of the White House Lawn in America !
XC
Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
Circular Times
Moving Forward Publications