News Briefs 19-01-2012

Thanks Rick, Greg & Mafalda.

Quote of the Day:

“We want a Henry Ford today to modernize the distribution of knowledge, make good knowledge cheap and easy in this still very ignorant, ill-educated, ill-served English-speaking world of ours.”

~ H. G. Wells

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tihz_ho's picture
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Artefacts are so out of date, they're now called Anomalies!

hahahaha

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Yes, it's always nice when NASA can explain those anomalies/artifacts, although there are times when they can't.

Like this video in which strange orbs were seen flying around Space Shuttle Atlantis, and Space Shuttle Program Manager Wayne Hale stated that, “Over the years we have chased (many) of these things, maybe not with the visibility that this one has gotten, and rarely if ever (have) been able to pinpoint exactly where they came from.” Hale also notes, however, that the objects, whatever they are, “didn’t pose us any hazard.”

See video

Well ain't that peachy? even when the anomalies remain 'unidentified' (hence UFOs) they can still wash their hands! ;)

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It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

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Snippets of what is said can be interpreted in a way that changes the original meaning.

Think about what Wayne Hale was talking about, you know, like the subject? He's talking about clearing the shuttle for landing and the inspection of the heat shield tiles and the heightened concern of damage to the tiles (by free moving objects). Therefore any object floating around the shuttle is going to attract attention, and they have chased down these objects (meaning small) and while they are not sure of their origin (frozen waste dumps from the shuttle etc) they still pose no concern.

Or they are UFOs from Omicron Persei 8?

One makes better sense, correct?

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Nobody is saying these are the forefront of an Andromedan invasion. But ask yourself this: if Hale's words were taken out of context, why wasn't any clarification or rebuke on behalf of NASA? I mean, it's not like they don't have the means to post a message somewhere --you know? like Space.com?

Frankly, it's enough for me to hear them say "we don't know what they are". That's braver than the Air Force and the Army have ever done ;)

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There is nothing brave about commenting on some unknown debris.

That's the point too, if NASA then countered every-single-internet comment about some "anomaly" already made by countless tinfoil hatters, this would open the flood gates for more and then when would NASA find the energy to do NASAily things?

Its a Catch-22 if they comment it gets worse, if they don't, it gets worse. Worse meaning, absurd interpretations of mundane "anomalies".

Another point is, just because someone happens to be a scientist, had worked for NASA, or in the military, had some awards, does not mean they cannot become "crazy", or enjoys the attention / money ergo: Richard Hoagland "The Enterprise Mission" Should be a link to enterprisemission.com from cracked.com haha

So, do you think NASA should (waste time) commenting or debunking Hoagland's "anomalies"?? (I think he coined the term). I doubt there is not one single news item related to space that he hasn't come up with some other explanation. If he hasn't commented on something its just he didn't get to it.

QED

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How easily (and comforting?) you seem to jump to the debris explanation, my friend.

An 'anomaly', by definition, it's not mundane. Some people think it's a waste of time to pursue them, whereas others understand the great potential of investigating them.

It's got even the potential to save human lives. Something that should have sunk deeper into NASA's mindset, don't you think?

And for the life of me I don't know understand why Hoagland needed to be brought up into this discussion. I know it's your #1 pet peeve, but give it a rest, will ya? ;)

This is about a substantial number of astronauts who have come forward and disclosed that the observation of anomalous phenomena during space missions is not uncommon. People like Story Musgrave & Buzz Aldrin.

I'm looking forward to the beginning of regular space tourism in the years to come. It would be interesting to see how much 'debris' all those rich folks happen to catch on video ;)

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I just listened to the show and "bitchfest" is truly an accurate description. Bishop sounded pissed off and bored, and Binall kept emitting nervous, forced laughter. Maybe Binall should give this format a much-earned rest next year.

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I actually enjoyed it. Yes, I don't see the point on the 2 of them trying to review the year on a case-on-case basis, since Greg himself says he's no longer interested in them; IMO they seem to forget that we ALL got interested in this field because we were enthralled by some particular case, story or photo that sparked our sense of wonder when we were young.

But then you have to admit that the 'bitching' became constructive as they started to talk about the UFO field in general. I honestly have the deepest respect for Greg as an intellectual and the way he tries to see 'the big picture' —even if he's turning into a cranky old man, like Keel :P

UFOlogy: Come for the porn, stay for the paradigm change ;)

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those posters make me want to actually see the movies more than the trailers of the actual movies did. also lets hear it for Nemoy in Die Hard, and here's to you Mr. Wolf:
http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles24/8...

;)

...I forgot how I got here but everyone seems to be heading off in that direction. I hope someone brought food. I have a feeling this is going to be a long journey................

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Yes........but can it make daily bread?
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6182/61242...

...I forgot how I got here but everyone seems to be heading off in that direction. I hope someone brought food. I have a feeling this is going to be a long journey................