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News Briefs 14-06-2007

By Gregon

I’d rather be Marooned than feeling Blue…

Thanks Kat.

Quote of the Day:

If science can disprove some aspect of Judaism, then to hold on to it makes me, I guess, a loyal Jew, but a stupid human being… If my religion says that the world is flat, and I can show a photograph that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the world is round, but as a faithful person I’m going to hold onto the flatness of things, then yea, I’m a faithful idiot.

Rabbi Rami Shapiro

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Greg is the owner-editor of The Daily Grail, as well as the author of a number of books including Stop Worrying, There Probably is an Afterlife.
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6 Comments

  1. Buzz Aldrin’s comments
    There was an interesting clip of Senator John Glenn in an episode of Frasier where in the background he talks about seeing ufo’s and all kinds of other stuff. He said that the astronauts weren’t allowed to say anything about what they’d seen up there.

  2. Faithful Idiocy
    Apropos to Rabbi Shapiro’s remarks, some words from Professor John Brignell lifted from a post in yesterday’s TDG, on the subject of why there can be no essential conflict between real religion and real science:

    “Respect the facts.” When people start talking about “the facts” it is time to start looking for the fictions. Real science does not talk about facts; it talks about observations, which might turn out to be inaccurate or even irrelevant.
    [ Conspiracy Times ]

    These days, though, I usually just cite the neuroscience of OBE and ask the round-earther how many ‘schizophrenics’ we’d tortured by insisting their direct observation was invalid because it simply did not fit our reading of the photograph.

    A colleague of mine, a professor of culture and communications and a trained philosopher, tried to call me out on that. “That’s Relativism!” he cried, “We cannot all be equally right!” — I agreed, we cannot all be right, but we can all be equally right and wrong … here and there, now and then, more or less.

    Great Doubt should be the hallmark and motto of science. Odd, isn’t it, that the term comes from the Buddhist religion.

    1. Doubt
      ‘Doubt’ also comes from the beginnings of science, and the father of modern western philosophy.
      Rene Descartes reasoned on Radical Doubt, thus beginning the scientific adventure. Strange how we all forget what was said in the beginning.

      …

      Reality, like time, is relative to the observer.

      Anthony North

    2. “Real science does not talk
      “Real science does not talk about facts; it talks about observations, which might turn out to be inaccurate or even irrelevant.”

      Exactly. Anyone who invests 100% faith in the “facts” of science, as determined by Man’s observations, is just as much a faithful idiot. If Rabbi Shapiro were half as smart as he thinks he is, he’d know that those flat-Earthers from a few centuries back understood the concept of the curvature of the Earth, and therefore knew it wasn’t “flat” (they just didn’t have any knowledge of it’s completely spherical shape). At the same time, he should know that the Earth is not “round”. Show me a scientist who proclaims his theory to be fact and I’ll show you a scientist destined to be disproved. Science is a great human accomplishment and I am a huge fan, but closing one’s mind to anything that can’t be seen in a photograph, can’t be read in a peer-reviewed academic paper or isn’t endorsed by some smarmy politician’s agenda is just…plain…stupid.

      1. Happy About Bosnia – No More Funding
        Hello,

        Thank you for posting this news article link Greg.

        I have been working on an article about Bosnia, an Italian piece. It has many graphics. I have been following the news, and I am so happy about the funding being taken away. I think the Politicians are realizing that Bosnia wasn’t cutting it with the phony pyramids and there was too much scandal.

        There were never cardinal points as there was never a base foundation, there are not 4 faces to it as there is not a quadrangle foundations with right angles thus no geometry at all, and the ridge they claim is nothing more than a curvy looking boulder, and was off compass measure by up to 30 degrees off North. I have the pics, and creating graphics. When this piece gets finished, I will post the link to it. (It is the graphics that hold me up as they are very time consuming.)

        I am sooooooooooo glad I worked it out to go there and see what was happening ( it would have always bugged me to not really see it) as this will be forever in my mind as one of the weirdest things I ever got in to. And I saw it from kind of the beginnings of the sculpting. I have seen recent photographs , I had wondered if they used Stone Glamour, a spray that you spray on cement and stone to help it bond and make it some what “glossy” — or they have a “matt” finish to it as well.( It is a clear coating to bond and hold things together. ) I also wondered if they had gardeners 24 hours a day to keep the area picked free of weeds and plants or if they were spraying lethal toxic substances to kill vegetation. I saw visions of many volunteers constantly sweeping away the debris and dirt that falls down onto the stone bedrock. But, if there were pyramids there, it would have been a remarkable experience to see the beginnings of……. but, it was a no go. Bummer Semir–What next I wonder?……What does Pam write? “Truth is stranger than Fiction?” (Or who writes that?)

        Golly, we are just too ignorant to see the truths Semir claims.

        And once again I thank Greg and the staff of the Daily Grail for helping me with the letters and photographs I sent from Bosnia about what was going on live………Those were definitely freaky times for Robert and me for sure.

        I remember the flame that happened with the candle next to my computer when in contact with Semir. There were also other things that happened on a para-normal level . Now I think good won over evil in a way. And now we do not have to wonder about aliens coming in 2012 to beam out cosmic signals either! Great!
        What a happy day, I am smiling.

        X Colette

        Dr. Colette M. Dowell ND
        Circular Times
        http://www.robertschoch.net

        1. Thanks Colette
          By actually going there and being brave enough to tell it like it was, not some puffed up version Semir had invented in his mind, you were able to get to the bottom line – so to speak. This was a ploy, it didn’t work, pulling the wool over the eyes of the unsuspecting, no matter how much the region needs funding for rebuilding, using a false base of trumped up theories on ancient pyramids, was not the way to go.

          Looking at the photographs you made of the landscapes seems to me very inviting, sceanic, and lovely plus your reports of easy going, congenial people and happy times spent with them means that therein lies the abundant resources for their ability to financially rebound successfully. The ingredients are there, it just needs to be properly assimilated, correct proposals for visitors to tour their country and adequate lodging facilities .

          Thanks again Colette. Love, Pam —————————–Truth is stranger than fiction.

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